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Old Mar 23rd, 2019, 09:11 PM
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Thanks for your suggestions, will take a look of them and get back to you. Would prefer to go up to the summit first before doing any thing else
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>>Would prefer to go up to the summit first before doing any thing else.<<

Revised per your preference. If you want to stay in the mountains for walking/hiking near Mürren after visiting Schilhorn consider this itinerary.

Take BOB leaving Grindelwald 7:49, arriving Lauterbrunnen 8:19. If this is too early take the next BOB leaving Grindelwald 8:25 arriving Lauterbrunnen 8:55.
Take Yellow postal Bus (PTT) from Lauterbrunnen to Stechelberg cable car station- 10 to 15 min up the valley
Take the cable cars Stechelberg-Gimmelwald-Birg - Schilthorn.
Spend about 1 hour at the top.

Take the cable car from Schilthorn - Birg. Get off here and do your thrill Ride
Take the cable car down to Mürren.. Time elapsed since leaving Grindelwald is about 3-1/2 hours.

Have lunch in Mürren. For the afternoon walk/hike I offer two options. Easy and Medium.
For the medium walk I would take the funicular from Mürren to Allmendhubel. Then walk the Mountain View Trail to Grütschalp. (1-3/4 hrs.)
For the easy walk I would walk the trail that parallels the train Mürren to Grütschalp. (1-1/2 hrs)

For the final descent take the cable car Grütschalp to Lauterbrunnen. No rush to get back to Grindelwald’ Stroll the Lauterbrunnen village and/or rent an e-bike and ride up the valley in the direction of Stechelberg. Take the BOB back to Grindelwald

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IMO all this fine tuning 3 months ahead doesn't make any sense. All will depend on the weather and on your personal preferencies once you are in the area and see the things at a scale 1:1.
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Originally Posted by dugi_otok
>>Would prefer to go up to the summit first before doing any thing else.<<

Revised per your preference. If you want to stay in the mountains for walking/hiking near Mürren after visiting Schilhorn consider this itinerary.

Take BOB leaving Grindelwald 7:49, arriving Lauterbrunnen 8:19. If this is too early take the next BOB leaving Grindelwald 8:25 arriving Lauterbrunnen 8:55.
Take Yellow postal Bus (PTT) from Lauterbrunnen to Stechelberg cable car station- 10 to 15 min up the valley
Take the cable cars Stechelberg-Gimmelwald-Birg - Schilthorn.
Spend about 1 hour at the top.

Take the cable car from Schilthorn - Birg. Get off here and do your thrill Ride
Take the cable car down to Mürren.. Time elapsed since leaving Grindelwald is about 3-1/2 hours.

Have lunch in Mürren. For the afternoon walk/hike I offer two options. Easy and Medium.
For the medium walk I would take the funicular from Mürren to Allmendhubel. Then walk the Mountain View Trail to Grütschalp. (1-3/4 hrs.)
For the easy walk I would walk the trail that parallels the train Mürren to Grütschalp. (1-1/2 hrs)

For the final descent take the cable car Grütschalp to Lauterbrunnen. No rush to get back to Grindelwald’ Stroll the Lauterbrunnen village and/or rent an e-bike and ride up the valley in the direction of Stechelberg. Take the BOB back to Grindelwald
Thank you for the suggestions.

Would take easy walk. It seems Grutschap to Murren walk has much better views of Mountains than the reversed Murren to Grutschalp (from reading), so the the walking should be from Grutschalp - Winteregg - Murren. this makes it difficult to plan, because it only makes sense to take this walk when going up to Schilthorn (2 hours), and that will delay our trip up to the summit.

The other thing we would like to do is the walk from Stechelberg to Lauterbrunnen, and walk through Lauterbrunnen, the walk from Stechelberg to Lauterbrunnen is beautiful. So we need to cable car down to Stechelberg on our final leg.
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Old Mar 24th, 2019, 01:13 PM
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IMO all this fine tuning 3 months ahead doesn't make any sense. All will depend on the weather and on your personal preferencies once you are in the area and see the things at a scale 1:1.
Thanks for your response and comments.

It is true this part of Switzerland is very unique and complex, plus the gloomy weather sometimes, making any planning difficult. If we could have 1 to 2 nice days there, would be happy, so need to plan as much to better use of the good day available.
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I have stayed many days in Jungfrau area and don't recall any day that was wiped out by rain. It has rained but for a few hours. Lake boats on the two lakes bookending Interlaken can be still fun in funky weather and it often may be nice down in Interlaken than up in the hills.
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Then, PalenQ you are a lucky traveller indeed! I lived up in the mountains (at 1650m, about the altitude of Mürren) full time for 12 years. And sometimes for days or even weeks on end we were either in the clouds or in the rain in the summer. When the clouds are low there are no views. I totally agree with neckarvd - this trip is being very over-planned and that is almost dangerous because it makes programmes rigid. Which is the last thing you want in the mountains. Just make a plan A for good weather and plan B for bad. then adapt as you go along.
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Originally Posted by PalenQ
I have stayed many days in Jungfrau area and don't recall any day that was wiped out by rain. It has rained but for a few hours. Lake boats on the two lakes bookending Interlaken can be still fun in funky weather and it often may be nice down in Interlaken than up in the hills.
Thanks for the response, do you mean the lake brienz and lake thun? yes, lake brienz and Brienzer Rothorn plus aare Gorge will be one day's activity, could be done in cloudy day or with shower. Could make a half day trip to lake thun when weather is no ideal for the mountains. . any other suggestions?
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Originally Posted by Hambagahle
Then, PalenQ you are a lucky traveller indeed! I lived up in the mountains (at 1650m, about the altitude of Mürren) full time for 12 years. And sometimes for days or even weeks on end we were either in the clouds or in the rain in the summer. When the clouds are low there are no views. I totally agree with neckarvd - this trip is being very over-planned and that is almost dangerous because it makes programmes rigid. Which is the last thing you want in the mountains. Just make a plan A for good weather and plan B for bad. then adapt as you go along.
Thanks for your comments and suggestions, understand it.

With detailed plan, we will be still flexible and change the plan according to the situation. It will provide us a sense of security because we know what to do in an imperfect vs bad day, for example, if no rain, but cloudy we may give a shot to hike at lower elevation, but with rain we have to get away from the hills either going to a town like Bern or taking boat trip to Thun. Your guidance has been great help.
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How to fit in "the mountain view trail" (either hike from Grustschalp to Murren or Murren to Grustchalp )? it looks impossible unless you have to miss the cable car to Stechelberg? Can it be done in a different day?
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How to fit in "the mountain view trail" (either hike from Grustschalp to Murren or Murren to Grustchalp )? it looks impossible unless you have to miss the cable car to Stechelberg? Can it be done in a different day?
See post #302
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" yes, lake brienz and Brienzer Rothorn plus aare Gorge will be one day's activity, could be done in cloudy day or with shower"
I don't see any difference between the clouds of Maennlichen and those of Brienzer Rothorn.
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312 posts on the planning of a two week trip...that must be some kind of record
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How to fit in "the mountain view trail" (either hike from Grustschalp to Murren or Murren to Grustchalp )? it looks impossible unless you have to miss the cable car to Stechelberg? Can it be done in a different day?

Post 302 answers it but to repeat that walk would be done when coming up from Lauterbrunnen by cable - Grutschalp is the upper station and a nice flat few-mile walk goes from there to Murren. Nothing to do with Stechelberg though you can take that same 'mountain view trail' from Murren down to Gimmelwald along the cliff's edge
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Originally Posted by dugi_otok
See post #302
Yes, my question was if we take the walk from Murren to Grustchap, we have to get down to lauterbrunnen via Grustchap, so we won't be able to walk from Stechelberg to Lauterbrunnen, it's said something unique to do, on the valley floor. So is there a way we could do both? see also the post by PalenQ

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Originally Posted by neckervd
" yes, lake brienz and Brienzer Rothorn plus aare Gorge will be one day's activity, could be done in cloudy day or with shower"
I don't see any difference between the clouds of Maennlichen and those of Brienzer Rothorn.
Thanks for your response.

Right, in this case we should skip Brienzer Rothorn, unfortunately, just take brienzersee and go to Meiringen. any suggestions?

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You simply take cable from Lauterbrunnen up to Grutschalp and walk to Murren - take long cable to Schilthorn and back to Murren and onto Gimmelwald - famous remote farming hamlet with cable way to Stechelberg for walk back to Luaterbrunnen.

What are your current plans - the above to me is the most logical to do what you want to do.
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Originally Posted by PalenQ
We walked from Grindelwald to Meiringen via Reichenbach Falls but the Grindelwald bus does this route in summer too - beats the round-about train route at least one way and gorgeous scenery.
Could you explain a little more on this? we could add it to Brienz, Meiringen trip on a funky day.

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Originally Posted by Melnq8
312 posts on the planning of a two week trip...that must be some kind of record
Welcome to join, any suggestions and advice are appreciated

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Originally Posted by PalenQ
You simply take cable from Lauterbrunnen up to Grutschalp and walk to Murren - take long cable to Schilthorn and back to Murren and onto Gimmelwald - famous remote farming hamlet with cable way to Stechelberg for walk back to Luaterbrunnen.

What are your current plans - the above to me is the most logical to do what you want to do.
I think this is the most feasible, my only concern is that we may need to go up to the summit first thing in the morning, since the weather changes, afraid the clouds will roll in quickly?
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