I'm not sure what a "man's man" is supposed to mean; but I know if all else fails to appeal to my husband about a destination, I can always lure him with the promise that where we're headed, the food & the women are notoriously irresistible. Which is definitely true about Paris (a city my husband loves as much as I do!)

A man's man, in times past amongst the English upper classes, was his valet or personal manservant.

As in, Bertie Wooster's man, "Jeeves." (I'm sure Jeeves would have been delighted to visit Paris...)



Not to worry, wehearttravel, Paris is a large city, something to appeal to everyone.

This is turning out to be a funny thread

Man's man = A man who does things enjoyed by men and is respected by other men.

Wehearttravel, I am sorry to tell you that your hubby's fishing and laying-on-the-beach-like-a-whale may be enjoyed by some but are not always "respected" by other men But I know you were kidding.

Still, if you hear otherwise, please tell me. I can even chop wood, get calluses in my palms, get a beer belly etc, if it makes me a man's man.

Have fun on your honeymoon.

"Man's man = A man who does things enjoyed by men and is respected by other men."

Yea. Isn't that what I said?

Very funny, Neo. I am not even going there Because, in Seinfeld lingo, "not that there is anything wrong with it".

Have fun, man. Or, Woman.

"Man's man = A man who does things enjoyed by men and is respected by other men."

Ah. Then <b>I</b> am a man's man.

Here's a chuckle:

http://www.amazon.com/Guys-Guide-Bei.../dp/0425208761

Sorry to be so crass, but give him a lot of sex show how romantic(horny) paris makes you feel, and you should be good. Just my opinion.

But Brando, it doesn't work on everyone. Check this out.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...l/16655255.htm

Great story, the only differnece is that boy was into it, the original poster seems to think her boy won't. Now, If it were me I would be interested in anything my bride was because your newlyweds, right. My original point was that with men, speaking only for myself, sex goes a long ways. My wife and I have read books about personality types and love languages and I have come to this point. I love my wife because she makes me a better person, because I enjoy giving her shit, because I love that I can't get her out of my mind, and of course because she's not afraid to kick me in the ass. But when she asks me how I like to be shown love I say sex.

&lt;&lt;my husband is another story. If he had his way, we'd be on a beach (I don't have a problem with that) or fishing. And we'd avoid the airport and standing on line at all costs.

I won the coin toss.&gt;&gt;

I am just curious... if you indeed &quot;don't have a problem with that&quot; then why are you heading for Paris?

Him - at all costs
Her - don't have a problem

so , a man's man would do anything for love ( excuse me , sex) - even go to Paris!
Wow...

Wow, I didn't realize the term &quot;Man's Man&quot; would spark such a lively thread. Forgive my inaccurate choice of words, I simply meant to ask what an outdoorsy (better choice?), simple guy would enjoy doing in Paris (we chose Paris because we did the beach destination a bit ago...).

My fiancee isn't an ill-mannered man, nor is he someone who doesn't enjoy culture or learning new things. He's just a man with simple tastes and a very specific outlook on life: relaxation breeds contentment. Hence his aversion to huge crowds and lines... and probably all the shopping and regular touristy things I'd like to do in Paris. That's why I was hoping to fit in things he'll find enjoyable, places where we can relax and take in Paris at a more leisurely pace, so he won't come home thinking of Paris as one big, crowded museum.

Thank you for your suggestions thus far, I think they will be really helpful.

Dont worry about apologizing about the title of your thread. Most people understood exactly what you were trying to say and answered accordingly. Others, unfortunately, take offense at the smallest of things and act as if your question was meant to belittle them. The world today is way too P.C. Honestly, some of you people need to grow up. She wasn't trying to offend anyone. She just wanted suggestions.

I highly recommend a daytrip to Normandy. We booked our daytrip with Parisvision.com and did the minibus trip instead of the motorcoach trip. There were only 2 other couples with us, and one of the men just happened to be a WWII vet who was returning to Normandy for the first time since the war!! This made the trip even more interesting and special for us, but we would have enjoyed it even without him. Description of the sites seen on the trip can be found on Parisvision. We had lunch at a lovely roadside inn in one of the small villages. I know this trip is interesting to men because guys who usually do anything to avoid my photo albums actually were excited to see my Normandy photos!

In that case, wehearttravel, with a little planning, you and your husband will find little relaxation spots. Paris is full of <i>parcs</i> and <i>places</i> with plenty of chairs and benches, and a stroll along the Seine is quite relaxing!

Grab some picnic items, and head out to the Luxembourg Gardens, or the Tulieres, or even the little park behind Notre Dame. There is nothing more relaxing than this.

Do find a favourite cafe or two that has terraces (patios) that you can sit and sip wine or beer, or coffee and watch the world go by. If he fancies himself a Hemingway, one of the famous cafes (La Coupole, Cafe Flore, Cafe Deux Magots, etc) is worth a visit.

I found Paris to be wonderfully relaxing if I don't get caught up in trying to fit in all the &quot;must-sees&quot;..

I agree about trips to the D-Day beaches at Normandy; also there are plenty of brasseries with a liberal sprinkling of macho attitude. Eiffel Tower should go well; walking along the river as well.

This thread is so fascinating to me (European)...it is actually a slice of cultural anthropology.

Please enlighten me... It seems that in Anglo-saxon societies, there is a sharp separating line between the male and female universes, and between what is socially acceptable to enjoy according to one's gender.

Those typically Anglo-saxon single-gender activities (stag parties, hens parties, &quot;women's tours), etc) are also totally outlandish to me.

In the Paris threads, Dear Wife is always a &quot;huge Monet fan&quot;, while Dear Husband is a &quot;history buff&quot;, which usually means he is only interested in WWII... How can this type of touring be bearable to both? Do couples find a common ground?

In that type of mindset, Paris is supposed to be a woman's thing, which I can't really understand. It is usually the wife who ties to convince her husband to visit Europe/Paris. Does a man liking Paris feels &quot;diminished&quot; as a man?

What are the &quot;male&quot; destinations, including in Europe? Are London, Berlin or Rome more &quot;masculine&quot; destinations than Paris?

&quot;So he won't come home thinking of Paris as one big, crowded museum.&quot;

Get out of the center. Visit one or more of the double-digit arrondissements, where many neighborhoods are truly that, the pace is slower and life goes on quite wonderfully, without lines.

A guidebook or two would be a good idea, the more offbeat the better. If the book is arranged by arrondissements, start with the 9th, and unless the book is VERY good, skip the 18th, the &quot;Montmartre pages.&quot;

Hi Trudaine,

I don't think this is exclusively an Anglo-Saxon perception: &quot;La belle France&quot; is feminine, isn't it?