stupid Venice Question
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I think the confusion (if that's the right word) began with the vision (in some minds) of a couple arriving with 3-4 pieces of luggage each and then continued as many replies debated the difficulties of getting to a hotel with a large amount of baggage, the bridges, the ramps, etc. It turns out the OP was really only needing to know the options of getting to a hotel (which hasn't even been selected yet) with a normal amount of luggage. I don't call it nitpicking but rather different interpretations of the original query.
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Arriving in Venice. Three modes of arrival, being
Air, to Marco Polo, and then bus or water transport to Venice.
Train, to Venezia Santa Lucia / Venezia SL. This is the station in Venice, on the Grand Canal.
Land, bus or car, arriving at Piazle Roma, the furthest point that land vehicles can get to in Venice.
A bit of preparation. Print out at least a portion of the map showing the location of your hotel. Make sure you have the full address, like Calle Lunga San Barnaba 3212 Dorsoduro, or Campo San Pantalon 3456 Santa Croce, not just San Marco 2123. Buy a paper map of Venice at the first available opportunity; news stands and tabacs sell maps, about 3 euro.
Download the app Che Bateo (which boat). The app links to the vaporetto timetables, so plug in departure and arrival and the app gives you times and durations.
Marco Polo to Venice.
1. Alilaguna ferry. Not recommended, queue can be long, the boat is slow, not much of a view from the salt encrusted windows. Limited number of stops in Venice.
2. Water taxi. About 110 euro, can take you just about anywhere in Venice. If your hotel has a water gate, you can be dropped there, otherwise as close as they can get beside a canal.
3. Shared water taxi, 25 euro per passenger, you have to book for two. Will drop you at any hotel on the Grand Canal or any water bus (vaporetto stop) on the Grand Canal.
4. ACTV bus. Costs 8 euro, runs from Marco Polo to P. Roma. This is a commuter bus, makes a few stops, takes 25 minutes, your luggage is on board. Runs every 20 minutes. There are not infrequent reports of pick pockets on this bus.
5. ATVO bus, 8 euro, takes 25 minutes, is like a tour coach, nice seats, luggage is underneath, also goes to P. Roma. I have used this the last five visits, so recommend. Vending machine for tickets just outside arrivals.
Arriving by train.
The station is right on the Grand Canal, platforms at ground level, a ramp for wheeled bags both left and righto as you exit. To your left as you exit is the Keep Calm baggage store if you want to leave heavy luggage. “Downtown” is to your left, P. Roma to your right across the Calatrave bridge. The vaporetto ticket office is right in front. A single ride costs 7.50 euro, there are passes for 24, 48 and 72 hours and these are good value. No point buying these online, just get the pass at the ticket point. The validity starts when you first use it, not when you buy it. You must swipe the pass over the reader EVERY time you use it.
From the station to your hotel, either walk or vaporetto. Even with luggage, vaps are not hard to board, as the deck is level or maybe a foot below the pontoon. Wearing a back pack on board is frowned on. As you pass down the Grand Canal, the stops will (mostly) be announced. “Prossima fermata Ca’ Rezzonico. Nexta stoppa Ca’Rezzonico.” There are vap maps and timetables at every stop. If you walk from the station to your hotel, the bridges on the station side (Cannaregio, San Marco and Castello) are not too hard along the main drag, the Strada Nova / Lista Terre di Spagna. If your hotel is near P. Roma, cross the Calatrava bridge. The Calatrava is most elegant, otherwise a crap design as many people have tripped and fallen on the bridge. I have not so fond memories of carting half a dozen Billy bookcases across the bridge, helping a friend.
Arriving by car. You can drive as far as P. Roma, where there is expensive parking, also car hire places. From there, you are on foot or vap.
We almost always stay in Dorsoduro. Less crowded than San Marco, and more lively than the northern parts of Cannaregio. Also more accessible by vaps on both the Grand and Giudecca canals, hence fewer bridges.
Air, to Marco Polo, and then bus or water transport to Venice.
Train, to Venezia Santa Lucia / Venezia SL. This is the station in Venice, on the Grand Canal.
Land, bus or car, arriving at Piazle Roma, the furthest point that land vehicles can get to in Venice.
A bit of preparation. Print out at least a portion of the map showing the location of your hotel. Make sure you have the full address, like Calle Lunga San Barnaba 3212 Dorsoduro, or Campo San Pantalon 3456 Santa Croce, not just San Marco 2123. Buy a paper map of Venice at the first available opportunity; news stands and tabacs sell maps, about 3 euro.
Download the app Che Bateo (which boat). The app links to the vaporetto timetables, so plug in departure and arrival and the app gives you times and durations.
Marco Polo to Venice.
1. Alilaguna ferry. Not recommended, queue can be long, the boat is slow, not much of a view from the salt encrusted windows. Limited number of stops in Venice.
2. Water taxi. About 110 euro, can take you just about anywhere in Venice. If your hotel has a water gate, you can be dropped there, otherwise as close as they can get beside a canal.
3. Shared water taxi, 25 euro per passenger, you have to book for two. Will drop you at any hotel on the Grand Canal or any water bus (vaporetto stop) on the Grand Canal.
4. ACTV bus. Costs 8 euro, runs from Marco Polo to P. Roma. This is a commuter bus, makes a few stops, takes 25 minutes, your luggage is on board. Runs every 20 minutes. There are not infrequent reports of pick pockets on this bus.
5. ATVO bus, 8 euro, takes 25 minutes, is like a tour coach, nice seats, luggage is underneath, also goes to P. Roma. I have used this the last five visits, so recommend. Vending machine for tickets just outside arrivals.
Arriving by train.
The station is right on the Grand Canal, platforms at ground level, a ramp for wheeled bags both left and righto as you exit. To your left as you exit is the Keep Calm baggage store if you want to leave heavy luggage. “Downtown” is to your left, P. Roma to your right across the Calatrave bridge. The vaporetto ticket office is right in front. A single ride costs 7.50 euro, there are passes for 24, 48 and 72 hours and these are good value. No point buying these online, just get the pass at the ticket point. The validity starts when you first use it, not when you buy it. You must swipe the pass over the reader EVERY time you use it.
From the station to your hotel, either walk or vaporetto. Even with luggage, vaps are not hard to board, as the deck is level or maybe a foot below the pontoon. Wearing a back pack on board is frowned on. As you pass down the Grand Canal, the stops will (mostly) be announced. “Prossima fermata Ca’ Rezzonico. Nexta stoppa Ca’Rezzonico.” There are vap maps and timetables at every stop. If you walk from the station to your hotel, the bridges on the station side (Cannaregio, San Marco and Castello) are not too hard along the main drag, the Strada Nova / Lista Terre di Spagna. If your hotel is near P. Roma, cross the Calatrava bridge. The Calatrava is most elegant, otherwise a crap design as many people have tripped and fallen on the bridge. I have not so fond memories of carting half a dozen Billy bookcases across the bridge, helping a friend.
Arriving by car. You can drive as far as P. Roma, where there is expensive parking, also car hire places. From there, you are on foot or vap.
We almost always stay in Dorsoduro. Less crowded than San Marco, and more lively than the northern parts of Cannaregio. Also more accessible by vaps on both the Grand and Giudecca canals, hence fewer bridges.
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I planned to stay in goddesstogo's favorite hotel but it was booked so looked for another Grand Canal view hotel/ room. Loved the convenience Peter describes.
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KJA wrote at Post #32,
This is not to say that being elderly is a disability, it does mean that extra care will be evident. An extra hand helping an older woman with her shopping trolley onto the Mercato traghetto, a normally impatient marinaro on a vap being just a bit less hurried.
- Knowledge of a city isn't the same thing as knowing about the issues faced by travelers with disabilities, whether permanent or temporary, nor is it knowledge about the other physical or psychological health problems that could make transportation in Venice problematic (issues that could involve the cardiovascular system, for example). That many elder people live in a city is irrelevant, and mentioning it is potentially insulting to all sorts of people. In case any of you hadn't heard, age is not a disability, nor does it necessarily imply limited mobility.
This is not to say that being elderly is a disability, it does mean that extra care will be evident. An extra hand helping an older woman with her shopping trolley onto the Mercato traghetto, a normally impatient marinaro on a vap being just a bit less hurried.
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Peter's summary of how to arrive in Venice is excellent, but I disagree on one point.
The Alilaguna ferry is a good option, depending on where you might be staying. Certainly for those staying in Dorsoduro, it is faster to take the land bus and vaporetto since the Alilaguna ferry must travel all the way around the main island. But for other locations such as Fond Nove or San Stae, the Alilaguna might be quicker than land bus plus vaporetto.
For some routes, Alilaguna has added more frequent service than when it first began, eliminating some of the long waits.
Sorry, I have spent only about 90 nights in Venice since 1983.
The Alilaguna ferry is a good option, depending on where you might be staying. Certainly for those staying in Dorsoduro, it is faster to take the land bus and vaporetto since the Alilaguna ferry must travel all the way around the main island. But for other locations such as Fond Nove or San Stae, the Alilaguna might be quicker than land bus plus vaporetto.
For some routes, Alilaguna has added more frequent service than when it first began, eliminating some of the long waits.
Sorry, I have spent only about 90 nights in Venice since 1983.
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Peter's summary of how to arrive in Venice is excellent, but I disagree on one point.
The Alilaguna ferry is a good option, depending on where you might be staying. Certainly for those staying in Dorsoduro, it is faster to take the land bus and vaporetto since the Alilaguna ferry must travel all the way around the main island. But for other locations such as Fond Nove or San Stae, the Alilaguna might be quicker than land bus plus vaporetto.
For some routes, Alilaguna has added more frequent service than when it first began, eliminating some of the long waits.
The Alilaguna ferry is a good option, depending on where you might be staying. Certainly for those staying in Dorsoduro, it is faster to take the land bus and vaporetto since the Alilaguna ferry must travel all the way around the main island. But for other locations such as Fond Nove or San Stae, the Alilaguna might be quicker than land bus plus vaporetto.
For some routes, Alilaguna has added more frequent service than when it first began, eliminating some of the long waits.
I thought I looked it up on one site or used an app but maybe I cross-referenced.
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Is it ACTV or another site or app that shows you the fastest way to get to your destination? Two years ago I arrived from Marco Polo and was staying in Dorsoduro near the Guggenheim. The quickest/easiest way for me to get there was ATVO bus from airport to Piazzale Roma and then get on a vaporetto. This year I was staying in Castello and it was fastest to take the Alilaguna to Ospedale.
I thought I looked it up on one site or used an app but maybe I cross-referenced.
I thought I looked it up on one site or used an app but maybe I cross-referenced.
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Rome2Rio often doesn't have all the options listed.
Why not check with your hotel or apartment? They likely have the best local information on how to get there. Hotel websites usually list how to get there. Some will email directions to guests.
Why not check with your hotel or apartment? They likely have the best local information on how to get there. Hotel websites usually list how to get there. Some will email directions to guests.
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Depending on where one is staying the Alilaguna can be the best option (unless one wants to spring for a water taxi.)
leely, maybe this is the app? AVM Venezia official APP | ACTV
leely, maybe this is the app? AVM Venezia official APP | ACTV
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Depending on where one is staying the Alilaguna can be the best option (unless one wants to spring for a water taxi.)
leely, maybe this is the app? AVM Venezia official APP | ACTV
leely, maybe this is the app? AVM Venezia official APP | ACTV
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Thanks trophywife. So just one poster commenting on another person's contribution. Neither to do with the OP. Got it -lol.
And yes for the OP I'd just ask the hotel if you aren't familiar with the closest vaporetto stop or want to know if a water taxi is an option and costs.
And yes for the OP I'd just ask the hotel if you aren't familiar with the closest vaporetto stop or want to know if a water taxi is an option and costs.
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Wow y'all - this is intense, helpful and a lot to integrate. Just some clarity. We are in our 60's so not the energy we once had to bounce up and down stairs. While we are not technically "disabled" my husband was diagnosed a year ago with a degenerative neurological disorder. Normally he is fine, but every once in a while he gets wooozy and unstable on his feet and disoriented. This most often happens when he is tired, or has been exerting himself physically (moving mulch, driving all day, volunteering on his feet a lot), so the issue of how far to walk, climbing bridges, stairs etc is actually very relevant as it would be a shame to get to Venice and then need to spend the next two days in our hotel room. And the traveling to get there is always tiring, even short stints.
Peter_s_Aus - thank you for the very complete info. I will print out and use it to figure this all out.
I did find one hotel - expensive but not horribly so - called San Clemente Island Kempinski - that is on its own island and has its own dock. Opinions?
and having said all that, I notice so many familiar names on this thread, people who have helped me plan trips from Paris to Thailand over the last 15 years so I just want to give a shout out to the wonderfully supportive Fodors gang: St. Cirq, Mme Perdu, , KJA and HappyTrvlr. I hope I've paid it forward here and there. and thanks to those of you I don't know yet. Learning a new country is a process, but half the fun IMHO
Peter_s_Aus - thank you for the very complete info. I will print out and use it to figure this all out.
I did find one hotel - expensive but not horribly so - called San Clemente Island Kempinski - that is on its own island and has its own dock. Opinions?
and having said all that, I notice so many familiar names on this thread, people who have helped me plan trips from Paris to Thailand over the last 15 years so I just want to give a shout out to the wonderfully supportive Fodors gang: St. Cirq, Mme Perdu, , KJA and HappyTrvlr. I hope I've paid it forward here and there. and thanks to those of you I don't know yet. Learning a new country is a process, but half the fun IMHO


Sending your husband (and you!) best wishes and hoping you got the info you needed.