Posting at the same time! What Thursday posted is what I've seen too.

It's interesting that they gave you that little speech, Thursday, when there is no legal force behind the oath. Only one of my friends has gone through the citizenship rigamarole and I know that it was a long hard road. Like 7 years, even though she's married to a US citizen, went to high school and college in the US, and has a kid with her high school sweet heart. I was really impressed that she had the dedication to do that.

I have posted the circumstances where the US allows dual citizenship above. Under my circumstances I cannot get dual citizenship. My FIL was born in Spain but my wife's entire family was born here. They would have easier access to Spanish citizenship but they must renounce their US citizenship.

This is a clear case of someone becoming an expert through gooogling and practical experience.

I thought we were talking about your SIL, not you. And I see nothing in your link disallowing dual citizenship.

In fact your link specifically says:

"Typically, no American will forfeit his or her citizenship by undertaking the responsibilities of citizenship in another country."

It's more or less a summary of Thursday's .gov source.

I am going to do some independent research again, as we looked into this before and thought it could not be done.

I have had dual citizenship since 1987 and there has never been an issue around renouncing my American citizenship. The question has never arisen. In fact, I just renewed my American passport, even though I never use it anymore. To renounce my American citizenship I would actually have to take action to do so, and I won't.

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By all means do more research but what more do you want than the direct statement from the U.S. government and Spain as well?

Currently neither country will require you to surrender the other country's passport.

I found this on-line group call dualcitizen.com and will contact them. When I looked for reviews, whomever does these reviews said they are OK. So we shall see.

"I am going to do some independent research again" - good, I trust you will report back. And may I suggest that if your previous independent research involved a paid lawyer that you find a new one? Especially if s/he was handling your SIL's visa application.

BTW, according to Business Insider the world's most "powerful" passport is issued by Singapore:
http://www.businessinsider.sg/singap...-in-the-world/

"I found this on-line group call dualcitizen.com and will contact them"

That domain appears not to exist, at least not on my computer. And I thought you disapproved of research by "gooogle"?

You wrote: "This is a clear case of someone becoming an expert through gooogling and practical experience." Although I cannot think why you are rejecting practical experience.

Why would you think this random group is more authoritative than the US government? If you are in fact gooogling, I suggest that you look for a forum for expat US citizens living in Spain, who should have plenty of practical experience, and recommendations for lawyers.

A. Unlike others I am willing to admit there are other means.

B. It is not the final information on which I will rely upon and then pass that information along onto others and pretend that I am an expert.

C. I realize the limitations of googling. And as this has greater implications than a hotel for two nights, it is worth the effort.

C. I hope you find something else to do with your life.

Fine. My interest in assisting your SIL is now zero.

Fine. My interest in assisting your SIL is now zero.
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I am sure she will thoroughly dismayed.

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In French : faites du bien a un âne il vous donnera un coup de patte.

My SIL is again moving to Madrid. She misunderstood the requirements for healthcare and thought she needed coverage that included pre-existing. She wrote the Spanish consulate in NYC and Aetna and she will get expensive coverage that will not include pre-exiting, have no deductibles or co-pays where she must pay for most existing prescriptions. She is willing to live with all those restrictions.

She now must return to the Spanish Consulate for final approval.

If she does move, we will spend about three weeks with her next spring. We have a been to Madrid many times, but we have not stayed that long since 1972. Very exciting for us as well.

We saw her this week and she was really upset, but now she is almost giddy.

IMD - Much good luck to your SIL. Please keep us apprised of her experience. And, best fun for your spring visit ! Spring in Spain is the ultimate time for a stay, as you well know.

Thank you Bedar. We have stayed in Chueca, near Plaza Santa Ana, near Atocha plus other neighborhoods, so we look forward to her choice.

I suggested east of Retiro and near Templo de Debod as they are residential areas, but we shall see. Her main requirements are an elevator, A/C, nearby a metro station, near a supermercado (or good stores) and a second bedroom. She knows she will pay dearly for the elevator and A/C.

Here is the explanation from the horse's mouth:

http://www.exteriores.gob.es/Consula...ionalidad.aspx

The following seems to be an immigration consultancy firm, so not an official source, but they clarify the situation well:

https://www.dualcitizenship.com/free...ion/spain.html

Think the elevator is the most important consideration. One can always stick in window A/C units. Then a 2nd bedroom for you !! Then a supermercado. Elevator is #1 !!

Second bedroom is an art studio/guest bedroom.

There are so many quiet side streets in Madrid but most of those buildings will not have an elevator. And she can live with ones that were put in long after the original construction that only have room for you and a pencil.