Spain clothing question
Sep 14th, 2009, 12:25 AM
#21
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Ouch! That first photo of the Theta girl hurts! Ribeirasacra, thanks for taking the time to post those links. That's exactly what I think we're trying to avoid here. That young lady could have fit in a lot better and avoided being an eyesore if she had left the baby sorority T and paper thin micro-mini at home, but such dress is the norm on US college campuses.
Yes, we know we're going to stick out anyway, whether it's the way we walk, talk, or whatever, but to me, it's all about the degree. I really don't want to look like a pasty American in the short shorts (not that I wear them!) and tiny tank top. I'd rather be smartly dressed (for the location) and be pasty.
FYI, American fashion has moved away from years of neutrals and trended back to bright and loud a la rocker and punk 80's, in stark contrast to what I understand is the mode in Spain. So, there are big differences already.
Maybe the rest of us are just too fashion conscious.
Yes, we know we're going to stick out anyway, whether it's the way we walk, talk, or whatever, but to me, it's all about the degree. I really don't want to look like a pasty American in the short shorts (not that I wear them!) and tiny tank top. I'd rather be smartly dressed (for the location) and be pasty.
FYI, American fashion has moved away from years of neutrals and trended back to bright and loud a la rocker and punk 80's, in stark contrast to what I understand is the mode in Spain. So, there are big differences already.
Maybe the rest of us are just too fashion conscious.
Sep 14th, 2009, 05:07 AM
#22
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 3,160
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Moya, jeans shouild fit well and be AGE appropriate.
Someone my age & weight would look like an idiot in skinny jeans in any country, plus skinny jeans would cut off all blood flow to my cankles in 15 minutes.
You sound young?? They are probably adorable on you so go for it! Have a great time in any wash jeans.
Someone my age & weight would look like an idiot in skinny jeans in any country, plus skinny jeans would cut off all blood flow to my cankles in 15 minutes.
You sound young?? They are probably adorable on you so go for it! Have a great time in any wash jeans.
Sep 14th, 2009, 08:34 AM
#23
Original Poster
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 24
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The skinny jean style is so popular here (LA, southern california) and I just can't do it at 34 - even though many women my age wear them. I stick to my boot cut jeans and at least feel good about my look. I would feel ridiculous in the skinny jeans in any country!
Thanks again for all the comments.
Thanks again for all the comments.
Sep 14th, 2009, 08:48 AM
#24
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 26,778
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
<i>A "conservative look" does not necessarily translate to "well dressed".</i>
As evidenced by Ali's photo.
As to the question, jeans are more than appropriate. If you felt compelled to overthink it, then I guess you could stick with darker jeans, but really any shade will be fine pretty much anywhere in Europe.
As evidenced by Ali's photo.
As to the question, jeans are more than appropriate. If you felt compelled to overthink it, then I guess you could stick with darker jeans, but really any shade will be fine pretty much anywhere in Europe.
Sep 14th, 2009, 09:09 AM
#25
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 13,617
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I can't do the skinny jean look either. I'm 34 and plenty of women my age pull it off nicely, but I am personally just not built for it. I think that regardless of the current trendy cut, people will always look more stylish with a cut that fits their shape than with a trendy cut that doesn't.
In Belgium and the Netherlands this summer, we saw plenty of women in skinny jeans, but we also saw a wide range of jean styles - boot cut, trouser style, straight leg, low-waist, mid-waist. Most jeans had a dark wash on them. Didn't see the high waist jeans that the fashion industry was threatening us with last fall - I am glad that hasn't caught on.
Off the jeans topic, leggings and tunics were big in Belgium and the Netherlands over the summer. I have seen some women in California wearing them, but not as many as we saw in these countries - maybe it is a weather thing rather than a fashion thing since I certainly wouldn't want to wear leggings in the summer in CA. I am not sure if this look is as big in Spain, maybe someone can weigh in on that. I bring it up though because this type of outfit would probably pack really well and be versital for night or day.
In Belgium and the Netherlands this summer, we saw plenty of women in skinny jeans, but we also saw a wide range of jean styles - boot cut, trouser style, straight leg, low-waist, mid-waist. Most jeans had a dark wash on them. Didn't see the high waist jeans that the fashion industry was threatening us with last fall - I am glad that hasn't caught on.
Off the jeans topic, leggings and tunics were big in Belgium and the Netherlands over the summer. I have seen some women in California wearing them, but not as many as we saw in these countries - maybe it is a weather thing rather than a fashion thing since I certainly wouldn't want to wear leggings in the summer in CA. I am not sure if this look is as big in Spain, maybe someone can weigh in on that. I bring it up though because this type of outfit would probably pack really well and be versital for night or day.
Sep 14th, 2009, 10:31 AM
#26
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,049
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Oh dear ... no jeans over 60 in Spain? Maybe I should inform my 71 year old mum to throw away hers ... Anyway, I think that the thing with the jeans has more to do with the fitting. I was thinking about that last Saturday at the Leonard Cohen concert. There were a few americans, and you could easily recognize them by the accent and the loose fitting jeans, both men and women.
Moya, as November_moon was mentioning, there are plenty of leggings coming for next autumn and plenty of tunics. One thing that it is more prevalent here in Spain, at least more than in France or the UK are the harem pants. All kinds, from silk to jersey to denim.
Shoes, many, many high-heeled ones. And check the handbags at Fun&Basics. They have some gorgeous ones in silver and gold pailletes.
Check the websites for Zara and Mango, and you will get an idea of what´s going on :
http://www.zara.es/#/es_ES/trends/woman/
http://www.mango.es/oi/index.html
Or this one. Fernando Mañas is now taking pictures in Cibeles, Madrid Fashion Week
http://gente5.telecinco.es/blogs/chictoochic/
I like this girl´s blog
http://www.lepetittrianonstyle.com/
Bye, Cova
Moya, as November_moon was mentioning, there are plenty of leggings coming for next autumn and plenty of tunics. One thing that it is more prevalent here in Spain, at least more than in France or the UK are the harem pants. All kinds, from silk to jersey to denim.
Shoes, many, many high-heeled ones. And check the handbags at Fun&Basics. They have some gorgeous ones in silver and gold pailletes.
Check the websites for Zara and Mango, and you will get an idea of what´s going on :
http://www.zara.es/#/es_ES/trends/woman/
http://www.mango.es/oi/index.html
Or this one. Fernando Mañas is now taking pictures in Cibeles, Madrid Fashion Week
http://gente5.telecinco.es/blogs/chictoochic/
I like this girl´s blog
http://www.lepetittrianonstyle.com/
Bye, Cova
Sep 14th, 2009, 10:39 AM
#27
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 26,778
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
"harem pants" - The appropriate term is (MC) Hammer Pants, thank you very much.
And, yes, it is considered polite to walk up to folks wearing them and say, "Stop, Hammer Time!" You can also do the 2 Legit 2 Quit hand dance if you are in a quiet zone.
And, yes, it is considered polite to walk up to folks wearing them and say, "Stop, Hammer Time!" You can also do the 2 Legit 2 Quit hand dance if you are in a quiet zone.
Sep 14th, 2009, 11:15 AM
#29
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 3,160
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Cova your mom must be slim, I want to look like she does when I get to 70. Honestly does she wear them about in the urban center when she goes to Madrid? ( I have never been to San Seb. it is probably so differebnt there so can't address that for the OP)
I am sure she look fantastic, but I would not say that is the norm for a 70 yr old lady in Madrid.
But sure is for a 34 Yr old like the op.
I am sure she look fantastic, but I would not say that is the norm for a 70 yr old lady in Madrid.
But sure is for a 34 Yr old like the op.
Sep 14th, 2009, 11:35 AM
#30
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,049
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Ann, not so slim. As I said, it is really a question of the way the jeans are cut. She wears them mostly on weekends and in the mornings when doing grocery shopping.
It really depends, but I do see older women wearing jeans in the Salamanca district in Madrid. A typical Serrano "uniform" would be jeans, white shirt, blazer, pumps and a Loewe silk scarf. Too classic for me
I think that it is more difficult to find at small towns or lower-middle class ladies.
Anyway, as you said, jeans are fine for the OP. You can find any kind of cut, from skinny to boot-cut to boyfriend jeans.
Bye, Cova
It really depends, but I do see older women wearing jeans in the Salamanca district in Madrid. A typical Serrano "uniform" would be jeans, white shirt, blazer, pumps and a Loewe silk scarf. Too classic for me
I think that it is more difficult to find at small towns or lower-middle class ladies.Anyway, as you said, jeans are fine for the OP. You can find any kind of cut, from skinny to boot-cut to boyfriend jeans.
Bye, Cova
Sep 14th, 2009, 12:01 PM
#31
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,227
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
OMG Cova.....you saw Leonard Cohen???? Be still my heart. What a sexy man....and the voice, and the words......ah romance!!!!!
Back to jeans........I'm with your mom on this one. Thanks for all the input.
Back to jeans........I'm with your mom on this one. Thanks for all the input.
Sep 14th, 2009, 01:02 PM
#32
Original Poster
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 24
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Oh my god...travelgourmet...you had me laughing out loud with the MC Hammer comment. I didn't even have to look at any pictures. I can't wait to see someone in those pants now and tell them "stop hammer time" and tell my husband i read on the fodor's board that your're supposed to say that! 
Maybe I'll even get a pair while I'm there...
On the leggings topic, that is a look I like/find comfortable and I'll wear a pair on the airplane so I'll have those as well.
Maybe I'll even get a pair while I'm there...On the leggings topic, that is a look I like/find comfortable and I'll wear a pair on the airplane so I'll have those as well.
Sep 14th, 2009, 01:34 PM
#33
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 301
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I just returned yesterday from 2 weeks in Madrid and San Sebastian. I agree w/ Cowboy1968 above; don't obsess. There will all sorts of dress and plenty of jeans in the types of restaurants you describe. In SS there will also be plenty of people in shorts, particularly at lunch.
Perhaps unlike LA, the other diners will be too focused on their tablemates and the food to notice what you're wearing. Wear what makes you feel good.
Perhaps unlike LA, the other diners will be too focused on their tablemates and the food to notice what you're wearing. Wear what makes you feel good.
Sep 14th, 2009, 02:15 PM
#34
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,527
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Thanks for the fun fashion links, Cova. I bought a lot of cute tops at Mango in Madrid several years ago, but I can't say that the ones I bought are as sexy as the ones on that sultry model!
dreamer, I am also a jeans wearer, and I always travel with a pair (well, not to a tropical climate). I do take well-fitting ones, and tend to dress them up, not down. I am older than you, and the last time I was in Madrid I spent most of my time with Spanish friends, and jeans were the uniform. We weren't going out to very fancy restaurants, though.
I wore other things, of course, including capris (which frankly I think are the most unflattering pants invented, but they are cool & comfortable) and skirts, but felt perfectly fine in my dark, boot cut jeans.
Don't worry too much about your wardrobe, and save room in your suitcase for some of those Spanish fashions!
dreamer, I am also a jeans wearer, and I always travel with a pair (well, not to a tropical climate). I do take well-fitting ones, and tend to dress them up, not down. I am older than you, and the last time I was in Madrid I spent most of my time with Spanish friends, and jeans were the uniform. We weren't going out to very fancy restaurants, though.
I wore other things, of course, including capris (which frankly I think are the most unflattering pants invented, but they are cool & comfortable) and skirts, but felt perfectly fine in my dark, boot cut jeans.
Don't worry too much about your wardrobe, and save room in your suitcase for some of those Spanish fashions!
Sep 14th, 2009, 03:40 PM
#35
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 15,771
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
We had dinner in a very nice restaurant in an upscale residential part of Barcelona ( not a tourist in sight)
There were number of men and women in jeans, but most people over 50 were in different attire.
There were number of men and women in jeans, but most people over 50 were in different attire.
Sep 15th, 2009, 07:10 AM
#37
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,598
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
<<no jeans over 60 in Spain? Maybe I should inform my 71 year old mum to throw away hers ... Anyway, I think that the thing with the jeans has more to do with the fitting.>>
I completely agree. I think picking an arbitrary cutoff age is ridiculous. So, if a woman is 59 and fat she can wear jeans, but a thin, fit 71 year old (or older) woman is not supposed to?
What a woman should wear is about her fitness and the fit -- how she looks in jeans, not her age.
I completely agree. I think picking an arbitrary cutoff age is ridiculous. So, if a woman is 59 and fat she can wear jeans, but a thin, fit 71 year old (or older) woman is not supposed to?
What a woman should wear is about her fitness and the fit -- how she looks in jeans, not her age.
Sep 15th, 2009, 07:39 AM
#38
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 4,760
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
danon wrote "We had dinner in a very nice restaurant in an upscale residential part of Barcelona ( not a tourist in sight)" How did you know that there were no tourists. Even the Spanish take vacations so not everyone you saw was a locla, I bet!
The other day I saw a lady who was obviously above retirement age and she had a dress which was not over teh top, a patten blue thing. But her shoes were something else. Flay ( not high heals) and Gold and I mean Gold. She stood out because of the shoes. Was she a tourist, Spanish or otherwise? I will never know.
The other day I saw a lady who was obviously above retirement age and she had a dress which was not over teh top, a patten blue thing. But her shoes were something else. Flay ( not high heals) and Gold and I mean Gold. She stood out because of the shoes. Was she a tourist, Spanish or otherwise? I will never know.
Sep 21st, 2009, 01:19 AM
#39
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Westcoastdreamer,
I think that when you go on holiday it is a time to experiment with clothing, relax a little and not worry so much. I recently went to Lisbon on holiday (gorgeous place) and one night we decided to go for dinner then a few bars in Barrio Alto. I have always wanted a corset and thought this was my opportunity to treat myself, I was so glad I did. I wore this corset http://www.miodestino.co.uk/boutique...brocade-v1905u with skinny jeans, black high heels and a large red flower in my hair. I felt so confident and great and not out of place at all. Just a warning, cobbles and heels dont go!
Enjoy yourself!
I think that when you go on holiday it is a time to experiment with clothing, relax a little and not worry so much. I recently went to Lisbon on holiday (gorgeous place) and one night we decided to go for dinner then a few bars in Barrio Alto. I have always wanted a corset and thought this was my opportunity to treat myself, I was so glad I did. I wore this corset http://www.miodestino.co.uk/boutique...brocade-v1905u with skinny jeans, black high heels and a large red flower in my hair. I felt so confident and great and not out of place at all. Just a warning, cobbles and heels dont go!
Enjoy yourself!
