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Old Dec 26th, 2004, 04:31 PM
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I actually met Maria von Trapp, briefly.
I was a student and she delivered a lecture at my university and we lined up to greet her afterwards. She was an old lady wearing a babushka and a large cross around her neck, and I remember thinking how little she resembled Julie Andrews.

The 'Sound of Music' of course fictionalized many events, but they did escape over the Alps into Italy with just the clothes on their backs, and almost no money. Maria was pregnant with their 10th child. They came to America eventually, did concert tours through an agent, and then founded their ski lodge in Vermont. see
http://www.trappfamily.com/history.html
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Old Dec 26th, 2004, 04:32 PM
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I've always wondered:
Isn't Austria a land-locked country?
How did they manage having a navy?
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Old Dec 26th, 2004, 04:45 PM
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As a child, my sister and I were taken on vacation to the Trapp Family Lodge in Stowe Vermont. We had a wonderful time because there were many children there.
 
Old Dec 26th, 2004, 05:41 PM
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Elaine wrote:

"I've always wondered:
Isn't Austria a land-locked country?
How did they manage having a navy?"

Good quesiton. I've seen the movie so many times and I never thought of that question. Therefore, your post sent me on a mission for an answer, and here's what I found. It would appear that at the time Captain Von Trapp was in the Navy the empire of Austria-Hungary was not landlocked. See this map:

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/austhung.htm
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Old Dec 26th, 2004, 05:58 PM
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I was in first grade when that movie came out. I was enrolled in a Catholic school and all eight grades marched downtown to see this movie at the theatre. I'll never forget crossing the street looking at all the cars piled up at the intersection, thinking that they'd be waiting for hours for all of us kids to get across!

Years later my younger brother made friends in grad school with an Austrian student with whom he is still in contact. This fellow's family summer home is on the lake that is featured in Sound of Music and my brother tells me it's every bit as beautiful "in person" as it is on film.
 
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OMG. I cried at the opening sequence. My husband shook his head, and left me to the large TV. This is magic.

I haven't been to Salzberg. I don't care if it's a contrived story. This movie took me back . . . back . . . back . . .

The name of the song is "Edelweiss."

I don't care if he is now 300 years old -- I thought Christopher Plummer was the ultimate in handsome. Did my heart flutter? You bet!

They just don't make 'em like that any more.

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Old Dec 26th, 2004, 07:30 PM
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I agree-- Christopher Plummer does it for me, too!
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Old Dec 27th, 2004, 12:20 AM
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I believe that it was Christopher Plummer himself who christened the movie "The Sound of Mucus".
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Old Dec 27th, 2004, 01:24 AM
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I apologize if I burst your bubble, but I read somewhere that during the filming of this movie, Christopher Plummer kept trying to make his moves on the actress that played Leisel, the eldest daughter in the movie. Eeeeeuuu! Now everytime I watch the movie, I keep thinking that he's got the hots for this young girl that is acting as his daughter.
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Old Dec 27th, 2004, 04:50 AM
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It's always been one of my favorite movies, too. My mom got my sister and I watching it every year from a very young age. It was always one of my mother's favorites because like Maria, she also left the Catholic convent as a young woman in search of love, marriage and a family.

I took the Sound of Music tour in Salzburg as a teen and loved seeing the various sites. I was also fortunate enough to meet Julie Andrews in her Victor/Victoria dressing room on my birthday in NYC a few years ago. She even gave me a large, framed, autographed photo of herself for the occassion.
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Old Dec 27th, 2004, 05:04 AM
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Thanks for offering the info, but
wasn't the Austria-Hungary empire dissolved after WWI? Did the Great War leave Austria with a seaport?
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Old Dec 27th, 2004, 06:02 AM
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I'm not sure about that, Elaine. But according to the map, the empire existed until 1914, so I'm thinking it was before then that Captain Von Trapp served in the navy??
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Old Dec 27th, 2004, 06:11 AM
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The Austro - Hungarian Empire( Habsburg)
had a relatively large naval fleet,including , battleships, cruisers and submarines up to the end of World War 1.Of course , the ships were fully manned with officers who could still be addressed with their former titles after the war.
They had access to the sea via numerous areas near Trieste and other Balkan ports that formed part of the Empire.
With the end of World War 1, these areas were lost to Italy and what became Yugoslavia. Thus the new Austria ( after 1918)was then landlocked.
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Old Dec 27th, 2004, 06:16 AM
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Capt. Georg Von Trapp was a submarine captain in the Austian Navy during WW1. At that time the Astro-Hungarian did have a sea coast including the Baltic. When the country was defeated in the war, the boundaries changed and Austria became landlocked.

BTW, many landlocked countries maintain navies (Bolivia and a few South American countries) as they need to patrol estuaries and rivers that goes through their respective countries.
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Old Dec 27th, 2004, 06:30 AM
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When I visited Salzburg with two friends several years ago, we took a Sound of Music tour and had the charming tour guide all to ourselves. It was very interesting and we loved visiting Mondsee, where the "wedding" church is located. On my most recent visit to S'burg, my husband wasn't interested in the tour, so we passed on it, but I have a couple of young nieces who are serious SOM and Julie Andrews fans, and I'd love for them to have that experience.
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Old Dec 27th, 2004, 02:36 PM
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I know that the Austro-Hungarian Empire was large, and that it had a sea coast on the Adriatic, but the Baltic??? I'd be intrigued to learn where the Empire actually touched the Baltic.

As for land-locked countries with navies, other than those which touch large international bodies of water such as the Caspian Sea, the only two I am aware of are Bolivia and Paraguay, which incidentally are the only land-locked countries in South America.
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I JUST posted about this on the Help me plan my trip to Europe thread.

I think I got my geography wrong AGAIN!
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Whatever you do don't book a Sound of Music TOUR! It can be easily done with a little internet research and a car rental.
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