Shorts and what to wear
May 2nd, 2001, 05:31 PM
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I too live in FL , Orlando, there are just as many RUDE orlandans as there are tourists, maybe more. I have lived all over the US and europe and this is the most insular place i ahve ever been. Your livlihood depends on these people, get over it , they are no better, no worse than Americans in their countries. More likely better. <BR>If you are in a city, dress like you would in a city here, I can't imagine anything more uncomfortable than jeans in hot weather, wear cords,or kak.'s, shorts are great on beach or resort areas but most tourists who wear them make a great picture with their varicose veins , white legs ,black socks and TX bellies, you know , they wear the same waist size as when they were 17 only lower. <BR>There is such a thing as TASTE how about showing some of it
May 5th, 2001, 11:08 AM
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This is off the original topic, but I wanted to respond to Anonymous' question of 5/2. The word "Oriental" isn't impolite, but it's outdated terminology, kind of like saying that Michael Jordan is a Negro. If someone referred to me as Oriental rather than as Asian, or Asian American, I wouldn't be offended, but I'd wonder where he/she had been for the past 30 years. 
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May 5th, 2001, 09:31 PM
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What about just going to the biggest dept. store you can find as soon as you get to a different country, and just <BR> buying some "straight off the racks" <BR>clothes you see other people wearing <BR>that are shopping there? Can one blend <BR>in better that way?
May 6th, 2001, 10:45 AM
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What is this obsession with "blending in'?? I just don't get it. And this intolerance for physical imperfections! There is such diversity in the U.S. with regards to everything---from fashion sensiblities on up (or down)---but no matter what, this is still the best country on earth; others like to make fun of us because they are jealous and Americans who make fun of other Americans just have their own set of insecurities.
May 7th, 2001, 11:14 AM
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I recently exchanged emails with a guy in Madrid and asked him about this shorts/t-shirt etc. taboo, since I'll be there in July and it can be excruciatingly hot. His reply was, "Be comfortable and don't worry about what you are wearing." He says that he wears t-shirts all the time and just dress up a little more at night. He called them summer pants, nice and baggy, and said that the only reason you'll want to avoid jeans is because they will be so hot. I think people worry about some of the attire issues a little much. While it's nice to respect a cultures customs, I think it's rediculous to try so hard to "not" look like a tourist. I'll be in Spain and very fair skinned and ultra blond. As far as no facial hair? To actually alter your physical appearance, i.e. shaving a goatee, is pretty ludicrious. If my goatee creates an international incedent that starts world war 3 then hey I'll be forever remember in the history books Ciao.
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May 7th, 2001, 11:29 AM
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Wear what you would wear in New York City. A pair of loose slacks or a skirt is not any hotter than a pair of shorts. I don't get this "shorts in a city thing." If you have enough money to go on a european vacation you have enough money to buy a nice pair of cool linen pants. I still get flash backs of this man in Paris wearing ugly tight wriggled shorts, a t-shirt with some words on it, loose socks and sneakers. ARGHHHHH
Jun 7th, 2001, 06:20 AM
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this topic is absolutely ridiculous---i find snobs here ,insecure people here and thankfully a few who realize that clothing acceptance is so over rated and superficial if i'm in rome or madrid or paris i am dressing for comfort not to please or make my fellow americans proud get real
Jun 8th, 2001, 04:42 AM
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Nothing insecure about it, nor snobbish, nor over-rated nor superficial. You can still be comfortable in linen or light weight cotton pants, or a dress. <BR> <BR>It bothers me (and apparently a lot of other people too) enough to care about how we represent ourselves and our country, and how we can try to be more safe by trying to "blend in". No, we can't blend in with the "natives" fully, but remember that Paris/Madrid/Rome/etc are all places where the French/Spanish/Italians/etc can be tourists too (not all Italians are dark haired, not all French look like Brigit Bardot, and not all Spanish men look like Antonio Banderas). And the "natives" that tour their own countries do not dress like Americans do. You're not trying NOT to look like a "tourist", but trying not to look like an "American tourist". Let's think about this. Europeans usually travel for a long weekend, not weeks at a time. Americans try to get in as much as they can in the time they have (usually 10-15 days). Logic holds that they will have more money (American money = high exchange). Why shout that you're an American tourist when you can look like "just another tourist"? <BR> <BR>I don't just cringe when I'm in a foreign country and watch Americans go by in their concert t-shirts and ripped clothing (quite comfortable -- well vented). Or their wrinkled t-shirts and khaki shorts. I cringe in the states too. It's a matter of respect. While most people would not dream of attending a church service "dressed for comfort", they have no problem walking into someone ELSE'S place of worship dressed as though they just came in from mowing the lawn. <BR> <BR>I'm not advocating dressing to the nines, but dressing respectfully is not that much effort. Paris/Madrid/Rome/etc are NOT beach resorts. Shorts? Maybe, but I'm not wearing them the first day out until I see what others wear. I'll wear a linen dress and take it from there. I'll also be able to get into the cathedrals in Italy too -- no bare knees or shoulders allowed -- while short wearing Americans shut out. <BR> <BR>So go ahead and be oh-so-obviously American. It's your fanny pack!
Jun 8th, 2001, 05:15 AM
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To xxxx: <BR>Europeans (I am) do travel for longer weekends, that is correct. We usually do that, when we have days off thanks to numerous religious holidays, etc. and do get away to cities like Paris, London, Rome, Vienna, Munich, etc. <BR>But we also travel for 2-3 week, especially in summer for beach holidays or when we go overseas (US or Asia). <BR>French and Italians very often take a whole month off (August). In France, some big car manufacturers close completely down in August. So employees are more or less forced to take their holidays at that moment, whether they like it or not. People without children very often take their long holidays off-season April-June or September-October depending where they intend to go. Prices then are more advantageous and temperatures in some places still fine.
