Russia Trip...
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Hi,
I want to plan for a vacation in the month of may and one of the destination we are looking at is Russia.
We are a family of 3 (myself, my wife and our daughter of 7yrs)
Our visit will be for a duration of a 6 days max.
What could be an ideal travel itinerary for this visit?
which would be better - Moscow or St. Petersburg? Or would it be possible to do both? In this case would 6 days be sufficient?
I want to plan for a vacation in the month of may and one of the destination we are looking at is Russia.
We are a family of 3 (myself, my wife and our daughter of 7yrs)
Our visit will be for a duration of a 6 days max.
What could be an ideal travel itinerary for this visit?
which would be better - Moscow or St. Petersburg? Or would it be possible to do both? In this case would 6 days be sufficient?
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IMO, Moscow and St. Petersburg each easily merit at least 4 to 6 full days. Some people spend less time; only you can decide whether the things you would be able to see in that time, with due consideration to everything you would have to skip, justify the travel time in light. And these two cities are so very different that I don't see how we could possible recommend one or the other without knowing anything of your interests or what makes you want to see them.
Good luck!
Good luck!
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With only 6 days and a young child, I would absolutely visit only one of the cities. As kja says - either one could easily fill your limited time. And if the 6 days includes your arrival and departure days you really should only visit one. Which one is up to you - I have spent 5 days in both cities (taking a late night train between the two), and still didn't see everything I wanted.
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Thanks kja.
Our interest would be more to see the culture and history. This would include monuments and other interesting places.
As we are going with our child, we would also look for a place which could interest her.
From what you mentioned, I feel that 6 days would be too short to visit both the places and probably, I would have to extend the plan a bit longer.
Our interest would be more to see the culture and history. This would include monuments and other interesting places.
As we are going with our child, we would also look for a place which could interest her.
From what you mentioned, I feel that 6 days would be too short to visit both the places and probably, I would have to extend the plan a bit longer.
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If you can extend your stay by 1 or 2 more nights, it would be feasible to visit both cities, say 3 nights in each city plus one night on the overnight or highspeed day train. Even if you stayed the entire time in one city, you would not see everything there is to see.
May has a couple of public holidays and they are taken seriously in Russia with events to mark them. The White NIghts season starts late May in St Petersburg, this should not be missed. My daughter liked Moscow very much, there is alot for children to see in each city. My very first visit to Russia many years ago when independent travel was not possible, was split into 3 nights each city plus an overnight train and it was a perfect way to sample each city and visit the main sights. I organised my spouse's first visit to Russia like this and it was a great experience, especially taking one of the more interesting trains between the cities, Nikolaevsky Express # 6 which sadly doesn't run anymore but you could look into taking the Grand Express or the Sapsan train. Tickets and hotels should be booked soon for May as it is busy.
May has a couple of public holidays and they are taken seriously in Russia with events to mark them. The White NIghts season starts late May in St Petersburg, this should not be missed. My daughter liked Moscow very much, there is alot for children to see in each city. My very first visit to Russia many years ago when independent travel was not possible, was split into 3 nights each city plus an overnight train and it was a perfect way to sample each city and visit the main sights. I organised my spouse's first visit to Russia like this and it was a great experience, especially taking one of the more interesting trains between the cities, Nikolaevsky Express # 6 which sadly doesn't run anymore but you could look into taking the Grand Express or the Sapsan train. Tickets and hotels should be booked soon for May as it is busy.
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The fast train between the cities takes 4 hours ...very comfortable.
Taxi service is unregulated, you basically have to negotiate the rate..
Metro signs in SP are in Latin alphabet, not so in Moscow.
Learning the Russian alphabet is advisable.
You might wish to research both cities further before applying for visa
( the application must specify your dates ,hotels and a whole lot of information)
Taxi service is unregulated, you basically have to negotiate the rate..
Metro signs in SP are in Latin alphabet, not so in Moscow.
Learning the Russian alphabet is advisable.
You might wish to research both cities further before applying for visa
( the application must specify your dates ,hotels and a whole lot of information)
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First I assume that you are doing some homework on your own.
Decide what YOU want to see if you are attempting to see both places ( Moscow and St. Petersburg).
You are not going to see everything, no matter how many days you have in either city.
The way you can maximize your time to see places is to get a private guide.
Yes they are on the expensive side, .but my motto has always been
" I don't mind paying more if I am seeing more."
So for example what might you want to see in St. Petersburg for example:
Catherine's Palace, then you will also want to see Peterhof.
Halfway between these two is Konstantinovsky Palace...where most of the high end political meetings are held.
Then there is the Hermitage.
You can spend 3 full days here and still not see everything...,so how much do you want to see.
Then across the water from the Hermitage is a place called the Spit, with Rostral Columns., it is nice to stand here and look back at the Hermitage.
Then there is Peter and Paul Fortress where almost all the Czars are buried.
You can then walk through the field of Mars, The summer Gardens, right next to it and visit Peter the Great's Summer Palace which is next to the Summer Gardens.
Directly across from the Summer Palace across the Neva River is Peter the Great's original Log Cabin Home, .....and just
two blocks past here and around the corner is the Aurora Cruiser that fired the first shot at the Hermitage during the Russian Revolution....
and you will want to walk down Nevesky Prospekt ( Street), the main street ( Boulevard) in St. Petersburg...just walk along and admire the architecture on both sides.
While you are walking along Nevesky Prospekt you have to go inside Eliseye Emporium ( store). You have to see inside !!!
Oh yes then there is the Church of the Spilled Blood, this church is build right on the spot where Czar Alexander II was assassinated in 1881.
When I say it was built on the spot where he was murdered, I mean right on the same spot...in the middle of the street, that is why the road curves around the Church.
Go inside the Church, that is not painted murals all over the walls and ceiling...it is millions of mosaic tiles, place your hand on them and see !!
How about visiting the St.Issacs Cathedral
How about Yusupov's Palace where Rasputin the "Mad Monk" was murdered.
This was a private home to the wealthy Yusupovs .
How about a boat ride through the canals of St. Petersburg.
The Russian Museum is worth seeing and is very excellent.
Then walk by or ask your guide( if you get one) to go by the House of Faberge..... the eggs are no longer made here and almost all of them are in Moscow now.
Then on the road going to Catherine's Place, there is :
Russian national Library
Chesme Castle and Church
House of Soviets
Lenin's Statue
Victory Square
You will want to stop off and see these places.
See what I mean...... I could go on and on, so you decide how much of St.Petersburg you want to see.
I can do the same for you in Moscow but you have to decide whether you want to see St. Petersburg in some depth or see the very major places and then take the fast train to Moscow and do the same there.
Decide what YOU want to see if you are attempting to see both places ( Moscow and St. Petersburg).
You are not going to see everything, no matter how many days you have in either city.
The way you can maximize your time to see places is to get a private guide.
Yes they are on the expensive side, .but my motto has always been
" I don't mind paying more if I am seeing more."
So for example what might you want to see in St. Petersburg for example:
Catherine's Palace, then you will also want to see Peterhof.
Halfway between these two is Konstantinovsky Palace...where most of the high end political meetings are held.
Then there is the Hermitage.
You can spend 3 full days here and still not see everything...,so how much do you want to see.
Then across the water from the Hermitage is a place called the Spit, with Rostral Columns., it is nice to stand here and look back at the Hermitage.
Then there is Peter and Paul Fortress where almost all the Czars are buried.
You can then walk through the field of Mars, The summer Gardens, right next to it and visit Peter the Great's Summer Palace which is next to the Summer Gardens.
Directly across from the Summer Palace across the Neva River is Peter the Great's original Log Cabin Home, .....and just
two blocks past here and around the corner is the Aurora Cruiser that fired the first shot at the Hermitage during the Russian Revolution....
and you will want to walk down Nevesky Prospekt ( Street), the main street ( Boulevard) in St. Petersburg...just walk along and admire the architecture on both sides.
While you are walking along Nevesky Prospekt you have to go inside Eliseye Emporium ( store). You have to see inside !!!
Oh yes then there is the Church of the Spilled Blood, this church is build right on the spot where Czar Alexander II was assassinated in 1881.
When I say it was built on the spot where he was murdered, I mean right on the same spot...in the middle of the street, that is why the road curves around the Church.
Go inside the Church, that is not painted murals all over the walls and ceiling...it is millions of mosaic tiles, place your hand on them and see !!
How about visiting the St.Issacs Cathedral
How about Yusupov's Palace where Rasputin the "Mad Monk" was murdered.
This was a private home to the wealthy Yusupovs .
How about a boat ride through the canals of St. Petersburg.
The Russian Museum is worth seeing and is very excellent.
Then walk by or ask your guide( if you get one) to go by the House of Faberge..... the eggs are no longer made here and almost all of them are in Moscow now.
Then on the road going to Catherine's Place, there is :
Russian national Library
Chesme Castle and Church
House of Soviets
Lenin's Statue
Victory Square
You will want to stop off and see these places.
See what I mean...... I could go on and on, so you decide how much of St.Petersburg you want to see.
I can do the same for you in Moscow but you have to decide whether you want to see St. Petersburg in some depth or see the very major places and then take the fast train to Moscow and do the same there.
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1. nobody uses any kind of taxi service any more (be it official cabs or "unofficial" gypsy cabs, which, apropos, are very few and far between nowadays). It's all uber/Yandex/Gett/etc. And, of course, for any kind of rideshare services the price is set and non-negotiable
2. As of last summer, even voice announcements in Moscow were in both Russian and English.
Solid advice otherwise!
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I have been to Russia a couple of times and I will say that it is very beautiful! Moscow is developing very fast. What was three years ago now did not know at all! All new and new. St. Petersburg is changing less, it is rather the cultural capital. Cafe, walks in the park, music, bridges. And Moscow is the heart, veins, speed, lights. Sto visit both cities. And better than 10 days then. True, there are still many beautiful places in Russia, but probably it’s worth starting with these two giants.
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It will be really tough to see both cities completely in that amount of time. However, if you aren't planning on going back soon, you may want to see them both while you are there. Do your research - figure out what you really want to see in both cities. Then you can determine how much time you will need in each place. There is enough to do in each city to keep you occupied for the 6 days - you need to figure out what is right for you and your family.
I've done crazy things like this to get it in! Good luck!
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If you can extend your stay by 1 or 2 more nights, it would be feasible to visit both cities, say 3 nights in each city plus one night on the overnight or highspeed day train. Even if you stayed the entire time in one city, you would not see everything there is to see.
May has a couple of public holidays and they are taken seriously in Russia with events to mark them. The White NIghts season starts late May in St Petersburg, this should not be missed. My daughter liked Moscow very much, there is alot for children to see in each city. My very first visit to Russia many years ago when independent travel was not possible, was split into 3 nights each city plus an overnight train and it was a perfect way to sample each city and visit the main sights. I organised my spouse's first visit to Russia like this and it was a great experience, especially taking one of the more interesting trains between the cities, Nikolaevsky Express # 6 which sadly doesn't run anymore but you could look into taking the Grand Express or the Sapsan train. Tickets and hotels should be booked soon for May as it is busy.
May has a couple of public holidays and they are taken seriously in Russia with events to mark them. The White NIghts season starts late May in St Petersburg, this should not be missed. My daughter liked Moscow very much, there is alot for children to see in each city. My very first visit to Russia many years ago when independent travel was not possible, was split into 3 nights each city plus an overnight train and it was a perfect way to sample each city and visit the main sights. I organised my spouse's first visit to Russia like this and it was a great experience, especially taking one of the more interesting trains between the cities, Nikolaevsky Express # 6 which sadly doesn't run anymore but you could look into taking the Grand Express or the Sapsan train. Tickets and hotels should be booked soon for May as it is busy.
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First I assume that you are doing some homework on your own.
Decide what YOU want to see if you are attempting to see both places ( Moscow and St. Petersburg).
You are not going to see everything, no matter how many days you have in either city.
The way you can maximize your time to see places is to get a private guide.
Yes they are on the expensive side, .but my motto has always been
" I don't mind paying more if I am seeing more."
So for example what might you want to see in St. Petersburg for example:
Catherine's Palace, then you will also want to see Peterhof.
Halfway between these two is Konstantinovsky Palace...where most of the high end political meetings are held.
Then there is the Hermitage.
You can spend 3 full days here and still not see everything...,so how much do you want to see.
Then across the water from the Hermitage is a place called the Spit, with Rostral Columns., it is nice to stand here and look back at the Hermitage.
Then there is Peter and Paul Fortress where almost all the Czars are buried.
You can then walk through the field of Mars, The summer Gardens, right next to it and visit Peter the Great's Summer Palace which is next to the Summer Gardens.
Directly across from the Summer Palace across the Neva River is Peter the Great's original Log Cabin Home, .....and just
two blocks past here and around the corner is the Aurora Cruiser that fired the first shot at the Hermitage during the Russian Revolution....
and you will want to walk down Nevesky Prospekt ( Street), the main street ( Boulevard) in St. Petersburg...just walk along and admire the architecture on both sides.
While you are walking along Nevesky Prospekt you have to go inside Eliseye Emporium ( store). You have to see inside !!!
Oh yes then there is the Church of the Spilled Blood, this church is build right on the spot where Czar Alexander II was assassinated in 1881.
When I say it was built on the spot where he was murdered, I mean right on the same spot...in the middle of the street, that is why the road curves around the Church.
Go inside the Church, that is not painted murals all over the walls and ceiling...it is millions of mosaic tiles, place your hand on them and see !!
How about visiting the St.Issacs Cathedral
How about Yusupov's Palace where Rasputin the "Mad Monk" was murdered.
This was a private home to the wealthy Yusupovs .
How about a boat ride through the canals of St. Petersburg.
The Russian Museum is worth seeing and is very excellent.
Then walk by or ask your guide( if you get one) to go by the House of Faberge..... the eggs are no longer made here and almost all of them are in Moscow now.
Then on the road going to Catherine's Place, there is :
Russian national Library
Chesme Castle and Church
House of Soviets
Lenin's Statue
Victory Square
You will want to stop off and see these places.
See what I mean...... I could go on and on, so you decide how much of St.Petersburg you want to see.
I can do the same for you in Moscow but you have to decide whether you want to see St. Petersburg in some depth or see the very major places and then take the fast train to Moscow and do the same there.
Decide what YOU want to see if you are attempting to see both places ( Moscow and St. Petersburg).
You are not going to see everything, no matter how many days you have in either city.
The way you can maximize your time to see places is to get a private guide.
Yes they are on the expensive side, .but my motto has always been
" I don't mind paying more if I am seeing more."
So for example what might you want to see in St. Petersburg for example:
Catherine's Palace, then you will also want to see Peterhof.
Halfway between these two is Konstantinovsky Palace...where most of the high end political meetings are held.
Then there is the Hermitage.
You can spend 3 full days here and still not see everything...,so how much do you want to see.
Then across the water from the Hermitage is a place called the Spit, with Rostral Columns., it is nice to stand here and look back at the Hermitage.
Then there is Peter and Paul Fortress where almost all the Czars are buried.
You can then walk through the field of Mars, The summer Gardens, right next to it and visit Peter the Great's Summer Palace which is next to the Summer Gardens.
Directly across from the Summer Palace across the Neva River is Peter the Great's original Log Cabin Home, .....and just
two blocks past here and around the corner is the Aurora Cruiser that fired the first shot at the Hermitage during the Russian Revolution....
and you will want to walk down Nevesky Prospekt ( Street), the main street ( Boulevard) in St. Petersburg...just walk along and admire the architecture on both sides.
While you are walking along Nevesky Prospekt you have to go inside Eliseye Emporium ( store). You have to see inside !!!
Oh yes then there is the Church of the Spilled Blood, this church is build right on the spot where Czar Alexander II was assassinated in 1881.
When I say it was built on the spot where he was murdered, I mean right on the same spot...in the middle of the street, that is why the road curves around the Church.
Go inside the Church, that is not painted murals all over the walls and ceiling...it is millions of mosaic tiles, place your hand on them and see !!
How about visiting the St.Issacs Cathedral
How about Yusupov's Palace where Rasputin the "Mad Monk" was murdered.
This was a private home to the wealthy Yusupovs .
How about a boat ride through the canals of St. Petersburg.
The Russian Museum is worth seeing and is very excellent.
Then walk by or ask your guide( if you get one) to go by the House of Faberge..... the eggs are no longer made here and almost all of them are in Moscow now.
Then on the road going to Catherine's Place, there is :
Russian national Library
Chesme Castle and Church
House of Soviets
Lenin's Statue
Victory Square
You will want to stop off and see these places.
See what I mean...... I could go on and on, so you decide how much of St.Petersburg you want to see.
I can do the same for you in Moscow but you have to decide whether you want to see St. Petersburg in some depth or see the very major places and then take the fast train to Moscow and do the same there.
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I have been to Russia a couple of times and I will say that it is very beautiful! Moscow is developing very fast. What was three years ago now did not know at all! All new and new. St. Petersburg is changing less, it is rather the cultural capital. Cafe, walks in the park, music, bridges. And Moscow is the heart, veins, speed, lights. Sto visit both cities. And better than 10 days then. True, there are still many beautiful places in Russia, but probably it’s worth starting with these two giants.
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It will be really tough to see both cities completely in that amount of time. However, if you aren't planning on going back soon, you may want to see them both while you are there. Do your research - figure out what you really want to see in both cities. Then you can determine how much time you will need in each place. There is enough to do in each city to keep you occupied for the 6 days - you need to figure out what is right for you and your family.
I've done crazy things like this to get it in! Good luck!
I've done crazy things like this to get it in! Good luck!
Also would be really difficult to move around with only English as a medium of communication?