What a beautiful apartment. Now I wish I booked an apartment instead of a hotel. Have a great time and I hope you feel better soon.

Parisperfect is VERY expensive. The flats are gorgeous (I've stayed in one) but unless you must surround yourself wth high-end antiques, i dont think it is necessary to spend so much for a great vacation Also, it is not as it was when they first started--Madelyn has given a lot of duties to staff, she hersefl will not be the one communicating with you, and not all their apts are are owned by Madelyn and her husband and/or sister. ParisPerfect become a rental agency as well.There's nothing wrong with this per se, jsut a reminder that there aer many other good, well-located flats from other agencies and owners in Paris, which wobt break the bank of the average visitor.
Christina, I'm with you. For some uncertain reason, I dont care much for the Marais (or Bastille, its neighbor) ..even though I love St Germain. HOwever, if i wanted awesome falafel, I'd head to Mi va Mi (i think that's the name) in the Marais.

CaliNurse,

If you know Madelyn at all, you must know that the growth of the company has only increased her dedication towards perfection in customer care and customer service. It certainly shows in the reviews presented by customers who post directly to those sites that only allow it that way.

No apartments are for everyone, but the large number of us who are repeat guests are grateful for having found them..and we know well that booking early is mandatory due to their continued popularity.

This post is most certainly wihtin the parameters of what was was asked for with this thread.."experience with the apartments". If you have not stayed in one and have no experience with them, then your comments are meaningless and should not even be entered.

Joan

Hello,

I just came back to copy some of the restaurants that were recommended here for me to try.

I had fun reading all the posts and watching the video of the apartment again.

I've been so busy I haven't really had time to think much about the trip but now I am getting very excited to go! I am glad I went for a nice place for a shorter time as I have been away from family for a while and think I will be ready to go 'home' after the 10 days. We are in the midst of an international move and my family went home ahead of me and I do miss them. I have been working at a very stressful job and finish up the day before I'm heading to Paris for a little breather - right after the movers pack up our place here.

Thank you all again for your contributions to this thread. I hope those here who are staying in Paris this fall (there were a few) will let us know how the apartments worked out.

And I will have to check if TPAYT wrote about her trip to Ireland.

Of course I'll let you know how my trip went...

gruezi

Oh Gruezi - I owe you an email. I am glad I stumbled across this thread... what a lovely apartment! I know you will enjoy your time. I loved being in Paris for 10 nights and just strolling about - you must do a trip report!!!!

Hi Dawn - thanks

Hi gruezi,
Sounds like you have your hands full and deserve a break. Paris is definitely the place for that.

I did write some trip reports with photos of Ireland, Click on my name and my trip reports when you have some time. We thoroughly enjoyed our Ireland adventure. Will it replace Paris? No, but it is a new place to love and we will return there again.

In Paris I feel as if I have come home, so it will always remain my favorite place . If we lived on the East coast and could "pop over" easily we would go more often. But coming from the Midwest, it's always such a long flying day that it's hard to just go for a few days.

Again, have a wonderful trip and I'll be looking for your trip report.

We thank winehunter for posting our name, number and website. We welcome any requests about this event and are happy to respond to them. We would like to post our reply we posted on the other areas where winehunter has been posting as NYBondGeek.

It is sad that someone would want to cause such harm to a business after everything that transpired.

Here is the information that we provided to VRBO.

This document contains the following topics.

• Thank you & Introduction

• Customer service record

• Record of accounting, emails and chronological order of events

• Conclusion

• Recommendation to VRBO

Thank you & Introduction

We are happy to provide you (VRBO) our side of the story and we thank you for allowing us the opportunity to do so. We would like to state from the start that NYBondGeek neglected to inform you in his write up that he did receive two refunds from us, one for 25.00 Euros and another for $200.00, that he himself calculated and that we were kind enough to honor even though the contract he signed clearly stated that we were not responsible for any refund whatsoever. He also neglected to tell you about our impeccable customer service we provided that went beyond the call of duty due to the Volcano eruption in Iceland. Our presentation will also demonstrate that NYBondGeek took great detail throughout our entire experience to make certain he either negotiated a better rate or was not over charged.

Customer service record

From FEB 19, 2010 to the present we have on record over 60 email communications with NYBondGeek, many phone calls (local and long distance to Europe that were charged to us not NYBondGeek) and a good amount of text messaging to Europe (again charged to us not to NYBondGeek). All of them attest to our impeccable service we have provided him and his wife ..... NYBondGeek originally rented 6 nights at our apartment VRBO # 242308 and his stay coincided with the Volcano incident that stopped European travel. Upon hearing of the affect the Volcano would have on NYBondGeek and many of our other guests, we rapidly moved to accommodate him and his wife as well as many of our other guests.

The emails between NYBondGeek and us during and following the Volcano eruption (on file), attest to the satisfaction of our primary objective (of making certain we assist our guests to the fullest extent). If you would like every email in our possession to be sent to you (VRBO) we would be happy to provide them.

Record of accounting, emails and chronological order of events

On FEB 19, 2010 NYBondGeek requested to book our apartment VRBO # 242308 for a period of 6 nights. We provided a three page contract to NYBondGeek with our exact rate of 175.00 Euros per night for a total of 1,050.00 Euros. Additionally NYBondGeek had to agree and signed our contract, which requested the following handwritten element, (Guest Signature (With handwritten mention) “Read and approved.”). The contract also contained our cancellation policy.

“Cancellation policy:

Should you cancel your reservation of 3 to 14 nights stay, more than 45 days in advance, the full reservation deposit will be repaid less 150€ in booking and processing fees, if 45 days or less no refund of total rental charge will be made. Should you cancel your reservation of 14 nights stay and higher, more than 60 days in advance, the full reservation deposit will be repaid less 300€ in booking and processing fees, if 60 days or less no refund of total rental charge will be made. Any reservation cancelled 44 days in advance full payment will be automatically charged.”

Our cancellation policy has been in NYBondGeek’s possession for over 70 days. To confirm the reservation and per our contract we had to collect 25 percent of the total cost which was 262.50 Euros ($370.35) on FEB 22, 2010 and we email him a detail receipt for such charges. Per our contract 10 days prior (MAR 29, 2010) to his arrival in Paris we charged the remainder of the rental, which was 787.50 Euros ($1,074.21). NYBondGeek received a detail email receipt for such charges.

Upon the disruption to European travel caused by the Volcano, we immediately informed NYBondGeek that we could accommodate him for an extra night at the same apartment. In keeping with our extraordinary service we agreed not to charge him the extra night right away because we (him and us) were considering further accommodations at our second property, enough days to cover any further delays due to the Volcano. As NYBondGeek assessed his situation he returned to us with his decision to do the following; him and his wife .... would depart the property they were at for two nights and stay at a nearby Hotel. They would then move to our second property VRBO # 228027 for a period of three nights (our minimum stay). Out of our generosity we informed him that we would process the charge for the last night at our first property and only two nights at our second property, even though we would be reserving our second property for three nights, to comply with our three night minimum policy. We also informed him that if he cancelled the reservation this amount would not be refundable. The charge would be 175.00 Euros for the 7th night for our first apartment and 280.00 Euros for the two nights at our second apartment for a total of 455.00 Euros ($641.06) which was charged on APR 17, 2010, and we emailed him a detail receipt for such charges.

Upon receiving our bill of APR 17, 2010 NYBondGeek wanted an exact breakdown of what we had charged. Upon answering such request, NYBondGeek informed us that our Paris representative had agreed to a charge of 150.00 Euros per night. We knew this not to be true, but once again out of our generosity and our understanding of how stressful this situation was becoming we informed him we would reimburse him the 25.00 Euros at a later date as we all continued to work with the Volcano situation.

NYBondGeek was extremely pleased with all of our services and each day we communicated with him via emails, text messages and phone calls. It was becoming clear to him and his wife that they were going to have to stay longer and we requested that he please make a final decision because we had other guests to accommodate and needed to make the best decisions everyone could make. He had already booked from APR 19 to APR 21 (3 nights) but out of our generosity he had only been charged for two.

As he assessed his situation he wanted to negotiate our nightly rate lower. He had gotten word from the Airlines that he would be able to depart Paris on APR 25th and he told us he had a reservation on a flight. We agreed that if he extended his stay until the 25th we would lower our nightly rate to 130.00 Euros. We communicated with him and let him know that other guests had wanted the apartment but we were giving him and his wife .... first priority because they were already at the apartment. We all agreed to the language of our contract and we emailed him in exact detail of what we were going to charge for the rest of his stay (495.00 Euros which equaled $680.91). Here is what we wrote in our email: “Here is what we will do. We have charged you for the two nights at 140.00 Euros and we will charge the rest of the nights until the 25th at 130.00 Euros. We will charge the 520.00 Euros (130 X 4) minus the 25 Euros we owe you for a total charge of 495.00 Euros.”

We provided a receipt of the charges to APR 25 on APR 19 and on APR 20 NYBondGeek emailed several desperate and odd emails telling our staff in Paris that we had authorized his departure (a lie) and shortly after he emails us letting us know the following: “We are leaving Paris after tonight.” “We have left the apartment in tidy shape. Both key sets are on the bookcase. A bag of rubbish is in the kitchen, as we did not know where to throw it. Thanks.”

NYBondGeek’s emails clearly insinuated that he was experiencing a fast departure from France. NYBondGeek made a contractual commitment to stay at our apartment until APR 25, we were unaware, as his emails prove beyond any doubt, that at the same time he was negotiating with us he was negotiating with either the Airlines, other apartment owners, hotel accommodations or planning to stay at another location.

Even though he was aware of his contractual commitment to our second property and the fact that we had told him we had denied others our apartment to accommodate him and his wife ...., it was of no concern to him. Promptly on APR 21st he was requesting that we process a refund he had already calculated, his words were: “I puled together this schedule of our stays, and the charges to my credit card Please confirm if you would be processing a refund of approximately $395.

Also, please let us know where we can leave positive feedback on our experience with your company. Thank you.”

In disbelief and stunned over this request we replied with another accommodating email and we wrote: “We are having a very hard time refunding the money because we had to say no to several other people that were also stranded and still are stranded in Paris. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.”

NYBondGeek demanded his full $395.00 refund and we replied with the following: “We accommodated you at the first apartment for the extra night. We then accommodated you at the second apartment. We honored the 150.00 rate rather then the 175.00 rate you already knew about. We provided you with a two night rental charge even though we had a three night minimum, as a gesture that we understood the situation. You then requested a reduction because you had made a decision to stay until APR 25. We did not charge you the remainder until APR 19 which is after you had indicated you would be staying until APR 25. All along we kept shuffling other people so that we could accommodate everyone. After your decision to stay until the 25th we still had other people that needed housing and they were not given the apartment you stayed at because of your decision to stay until the 25th. As you can see the majority of the time it has been us giving, giving and giving. Please remember we did not have to do a single thing, but that is not the way we operate.”

At this point NYBondGeek replied with the following: “We look forward to visiting Paris again soon, staying at your properties, while recommending your firm also to our friends and family. May I respectfully suggest that we meet in the middle, at $200? Thank you.”

Again out of our generosity we replied: “In keeping with our method of doing business, we will agree to a 200.00 USD refund. We are not doing it to meet each other half way, we are doing it because we are understanding people and realize that what took place was under no ones control.

Please consider the accounts settled and provide with an agreement via email to us. Upon hearing your response we will process the 200.00 USD refund to your CC on file.”

NYBondGeek replied with the following legal and binding agreement to our proposal and his final yes on the settlement of our financial relationship: “This works fine. Thank you. Is there an ideal site where we can post open recommendations for your services and properties? I plan to post positively and sincerely at least on the Robert Parker wine discussion forum, where many discriminating worldwide travel and wine enthusiasts make referrals to each other.”

We replied: “As you have found out – reviews are posted in various websites and of course we would love anything you post about us. Please reference our website as - http://www.rentparisnow.com – you can also provide us with your testimonial and we will post it on our website at - parisapartmentrental.biz/testimonials.html -

The following two links will also take you to websites where you can post your input.

http://www.vrbo.com/242308#comments

http://www.vrbo.com/228027#comments

Thank you and we will process the refund shortly.”

On APR 21, 2010 we processed the credit of $200.00 and emailed NYBondGeek the detail receipt for his records.

On APR 21, 2010 NYBondGeek replies with the following email with a link to his post on a website: “http://dat.erobertparker.com/bboard/...=220018“

* and adds – “FYI. I will post also to VRBO and perhaps TripAdvisor. Thank you.”


We replied on APR 21, 2010: “Thank you and we look forward to your future posts.”

He replied on APR 21, 2010: “Thank you.”

We later received a notification of a positive post on VRBO referencing our services.

On APR 26, 2010 we received the following email from NYBondGeek. “The positive VRBO reviews are posted now. .... and I finally got home on late Saturday night. Whew!”

We again were stunned at the realization that Saturday night was APR 24 and even more stunned because even though the Volcano caused a great deal of delays and to date we have heard many horror stories, we know for a fact that it did not take anyone approximately 4 nights and 5 days traveling on Airplanes to get from Paris, France to New York where NYBondGeek resides.

NYBondGeek’s email continues: “At last, I have sufficient time and computer access to double-check my CC charges. In the craziness last week, when we agreed upon $2,200 as your final total billing for the two apartments, we both forgot about the February 22 reservation deposit of $370.35. May you please kindly arrange to refund that?

I have attached the original spreadsheet which we used to estimate my total payments, and a corrected one, including screen-shots from my Citibank CC statements. Thank you.”

We replied: “We thank you for the kind postings on the various sites and we look forward to accommodating you in the future. All transactions regarding your rental are settled and no further refunds can be processed. We were very clear with you that we did not have to refund a single penny. Out of our kindness and because of the way we conduct business as we indicated in our emails we decided to agree with your estimate not ours. We also asked you to agree with us prior to processing the refund and you did.

Again we are very happy we assisted many people in need during the Volcano and especially for you and your wife. So glad all worked out so well.”

As the events have developed and today with NYBondGeek alleging all sorts of negative innuendos about our service we take this new finding as the greatest of insult, a complete slap in the face, especially since our generosity has gone far beyond the call of duty and after we spent hours and hours attending to over 60 emails, many phone calls and text messages from NYBondGeek.

What exactly took place from APR 21 to APR 26 only NYBondGeek and his wife .... can tell us, we are guessing that NYBondGeek decided to move to other accommodations. He did this of his own accord and in full knowledge of his violation of our rental agreement. Adding to this, his actions blatantly spit on the other poor people that could have used our apartment. People that ended up getting stuck for several days and nights at filthy airports “sewers” (to use NYBondGeek’s words when we spoke about the state of the airports in Europe) and with nowhere to sleep or take a shower.

On APR 26, 2010 NYBondGeek writes, “Still lacking any itemized billing/payment statement, both you and I overlooked the $370.35 which you had charged way back in February 22 on my credit card.” – at this point you the reader can see the absurdity of his statement that an itemized billing has not been provided and his statement is also attempting to once again place blame for his actions to another person.

NYBondGeek continues, “You billing should be timely, complete, and accurate. I should not absorb any discrepancy if otherwise, and again request a correcting refund of that $370.35 overpayment.” – bringing the reader to question the mindset of such thought process.

While the dialog continued VRBO informed us that the recent favorable testimonial posted by NYBondGeek was being removed at the request of NYBondGeek.

On APR 28, 2010 we received a threat from NYBondGeek, – “Contrary to what you said below, you issued no preliminary or final statement of the agreed-upon, incurred rentals, for comparison against the lump credit-card charges. Your e-mails of those lump charges simply do not constitute one. While awaiting your itemized bill, I resorted to drafting my own initial estimate....... which was exactly that, just an initial estimate. I needed to see if the incurred rentals matched your credit-card charges, which they clearly did not.

I would prefer for us to resolve this privately, rather than asking for my credit-card company to assist. Please advise. Thank you.” - shortly after this threat, we received your (VRBO) request to respond to his charges.

NYBondGeek writes his charges to you (VRBO) and states, “Apartment operator has overbilled, but will not refund.

We stayed at VRBO apartments #228027 and 242308 in Paris. Ultimately, the operator and I agreed to meet in the middle, at $2200 as the total cost for my apartment stays.

Still lacking any itemized billing/payment statement, both the operator and I overlooked the $370.35 which it had charged way back in February 22 on my credit card. If the operator were to keep this, that would raise the final total charges to $2570.35, clearly exceeding the agreed-upon $2200 total.

Rental billing should be timely, complete, and accurate. I should not absorb

any discrepancy if otherwise, and again requested a correcting refund of

that $370.35 overpayment.” – clearly his charges are a complete misrepresentation of events and deprived of any validity.

Conclusion

Our files on this issue demonstrate that NYBondGeek broke the contract for his rental agreement and they demonstrate the pride we take in making certain we provide good customer service. They also demonstrate that at every step of the process, contrary to what NYBondGeek has stated, we have provided detail records of all of our charges. As if that was not enough they also demonstrate our generosity with NYBondGeek regarding the two refunds we processed, two refunds that legally he was not entitled to receive.

Not only has NYBondGeek distorted the truth about all of the events, he has also used a simple but famous type of manipulative behavior, claiming those involved had already agreed with him making his actions justified at every turn and in his estimate he should be rewarded. As pointed out in his own words and in his own emails; he informed me that our Paris staff had told him we would charge him 150.00 Euros for the extra night (a lie), he informed our Paris staff that we had authorized him to depart from the apartment (a lie), he indicates in his email to you (VRBO) that I had already agreed to refund him additional money (another lie) and to add insult to injury he states that we both overlooked a payment (his most blatant lie to date).

Recommendation to VRBO

We hold ourselves to very high standards when performing our service and we are glad that VRBO is also exercising these valuable tool to make certain those of us using their service are held to such standards, we also hope VRBO makes certain that those using their service and ours like NYBondGeek are banned from any of the VRBO websites in the hopes that other owners, representatives or managers of properties do not have to put up with the factual experience we are going through.

Sincerely,

Jose Arturo Ibarra

Always two sides...

Gracejoan, I usually ignore responses such as yours but this time i will answer your post of September 30, addressed to me.

1. Where did i say that PP should not be mentioned in this thread?
2. Why do you say my comments have no place here? Did you not READ what I wrote, i.e that i have stayed in one of the PP flats. I have enquired about others since that first time.

Why don't you take a deep breath and calmly, analytically, READ posts that mention PP, instead of giving your usual defensive, bizarrely overprotective reaction .

Are Madelyn and Philippe lovely wonderful people who have excellent business sense? Yes. Was the flat beautifull? Yes. Are the prices very expensive? Yes? Are they 100% "perfect"? Non. (Read some threads about less than positive experiences.)

What troubles me is your reaction to everyone who doesn't agree with you 100% about this particular agency. Why IS that?

I do not discount YOUR experiences, and I ask that you respect and stop discounting mine and others who may have different opinions. Please, stop behaving in a way that makes me wonder if you have paranoid delusions, where people are unfairly picking on poor Paris Perfect!!

Dear Mr Ibarra,

I wish you had not hijacked this thread with such an EXTREMELY long defense, especially with repeated references to your "impeccable" and "extraordinary" services etc etc etc. Winehunter (who also should not have posted on this thread) at least kept his post short and referred people to his original thread. I haven't looked to see if you responded there yet, but that is where this LONG post from you belongs. You could have referred people there for your side of the story.

Hi MLF611, Mr Ibarra did post the same response on Winehunter's original post. He's just done a cut and paste here and needs to know that all he has done is p..s people off. I certainly WON'T use his apartment now, just because he is behaving like a jerk.

And to Winehunter - please don't continue to hijack threads with your unhappy experience. It's not fair to Gruezi and the other posters on this particular thread. You could have just referred Gruezi to your other post with a link to it.

Calinurse,

Sorry that you took such offense to my post. I meant no criticism of anything that you said. I was only bringing you up to date a bit on the growth of their company not changing their customer service and care.

The reference to it being within the parameters of this thread was because anther poster (not you) had mentioned that PP should not be involved in this thread..don't know why.

I only post about places where I have been or stayed. Try not to say anything about places that I have any feelings about, but no personal experience with.

Joan

Kumbaya Fodorites...

Ah... I'm going to Paris in 3 weeks and I have tickets for Monet and the ballet!!! Oh, I have earned this trip and that makes it extra sublime.

Yippee!!!

(Spreading joy to all those who love the city of lights....)

gruezi

Gruezi I am with you in spirit!

Gruezi,
Make reservations now for Chez L'Ami Jean, on Rue Malard.
01 47 05 86 89
Great French food and wine, authentic but casual Parisian spot, gentle prices. Have fun.

Gruezi,the apartment that you have rented is Super.Just love it and the view is fantastic. A very Good choice.

gruezi -- I'll miss you by two weeks! Alas, my trip will not be solo this time, the whole family will be enjoying my journey with me.

Also wishing you joy
~Myra

Please report back Gruezi on your time!

Hope you are having a grand time, gruezi! I'm on my countdown to the city of lights for Dec/Jan. ~~ I'm beyond excited! ~~