Portugal Trip Report
Jul 3rd, 2006, 01:11 PM
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Sappa, I am the one who was interested in the jazz bar, and Matt gave me a different name, I don't remember right now what it was. But I'd be interested in the place you mentioned also, Bartie's. Do you have an address for it? Also, are you familiar with other places to go for music? I'll be in Lisbon in two weeks for a few nights and am interested in finding places to go.
Jul 4th, 2006, 02:30 AM
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Matt's suggestion is:
Catacumbas Jazz Bar, Travessa Agua Flor 43, Lisbon, 1200, PORTUGAL
As per Sappa's suggestion of Bartie's, I can't find it in yellow pages or google. My guess is that it is misspelled. I hope Sappa to see this message and add some more info.
Catacumbas Jazz Bar, Travessa Agua Flor 43, Lisbon, 1200, PORTUGAL
As per Sappa's suggestion of Bartie's, I can't find it in yellow pages or google. My guess is that it is misspelled. I hope Sappa to see this message and add some more info.
Jul 4th, 2006, 05:04 AM
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Bailey....great report!
My wife and I were in Portugal last year for about a week, and we didn't get enough of it, so we are going back for 16 days in August. Your report will definitely help me out doing my itinerary. Do you feel that driving was the best way rather than taking the bus?
My wife and I were in Portugal last year for about a week, and we didn't get enough of it, so we are going back for 16 days in August. Your report will definitely help me out doing my itinerary. Do you feel that driving was the best way rather than taking the bus?
Jul 4th, 2006, 05:10 AM
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Watch out for these taxi meters. We were also overcharged by the driver taking us from the airport to Lisbon centre. Got muddled and couldnt concentrate on how much it was in GBP as he was being really friendly and chatty . Paid over 20 euros too much!
Lesson learned!
Lesson learned!
Jul 4th, 2006, 07:10 AM
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Hi Nokki and all Fodorites,
Lobo Mau was right. I did mispell the name of the bar.The correct name is Bartis.
Here are some of my favourite choices for a cool Lisbon night out:
BARTIS (BAIRRO ALTO)
Rua Diário de Noticias, 95
(Tiny mostly Jazz bar with great chicken toasts untill 2:00 am. It has no sign on the door but only a red light)
PÁGINAS TANTAS (BAIRRO ALTO)
Rua Diário de Noticias (?)
(A slightly bigger Jazz bar with a good wine selection and relaxed atmosphere)
ANIMATó GARFO (BAIRRO ALTO)
(Travessa da Laranjeira, 35 - close to Calçada do Combro and Miradouro do Adamastor)
This is my favourite bar lately. It's very, very small but great undergroung sounds (actually almost anything goes there) and they also have snacks for those late munchies (great soups and toasts). Ask for Rui (the owner).
(If you decide to go to ANIMATÓ GARFO you may want to make a stop at the really close by esplanade in Miradouro do Adamastor to get a beautifull view of Lisbon, the river and the other margin.The esplane service is nothing special but the view is worthwhile.)
TERTÚLIA (BAIRRO ALTO)
Rua Diário de Noticias, 60
(Also a Jazz bar with good drink list. very quiet. It has a piano and anyone can play).
HOT CLUBE DE PORTUGAL (just off BAIRRO ALTO)
Praça da Alegria (go by Metro and get off in Avenida Station and walk there for about 3 minutes)
(This is probably the first jazz bar in Lisbon. It started out as an Association for jazz musicians and funny anough my grand-father was associate nº 02! This is a really special place where you can listen to live music and improvs almost every night. I once took a South African friend who is a Sax player and he played there for a big part of the night. You will have to pay a small fee at the entrance - maybe 2 ou 3 euros - but the experience is great. Don't be put off by the fact that it is small and dark. it just adds to its charm)
INSTITUTO DO VINHO DO PORTO (BAIRRO ALTO)
Rua São Pedro de Alcântara (take the funicular ELEVADOR DA GLÓRIA and just cross the street)
This is also a special place. It's a bar that represents every Port wine Producer in Portugal and you can experiment EVERY port wine that is made in this country for very cheap. It's a beautifull place to go to after dinner and a great way to start off your party night. Also a clever way to really get to know Port wine without having to go to Porto.
CHAPITÔ (ALFAMA)
Rua Costa do Castelo
Make some time to go to ALFAMA (old quarter near the castle) to visit the castle of São Jorge. And then try CHAPITÔ. You can go for dinner or just drinks. Great views and atmosphere. This place is also a school for circus arts so you will find lots of very interesting people.
SPEAKEASY (www.speakeasy-bar.com)
Cais das Oficinas - Rocha Conde Óbidos
Another jazzy bar with restaurant (a little on the expensive side) by the river. Good food and sometimes live music.
DISCOS:
FRÁGIL (BAIRRO ALTO)
Rua da Atalaia, 126/8
If you like to dance then you must definately meet FRÁGIL - the first disco in Lisbon with almost 20 years and still going. It's very small but the music is garanteed to be good. May be a little dificult to get in but try anyway - still today I don't understand their admitance policy...)
LUX-FRÁGIL (www.luxfragil.com)
Avenida Infante D. Henrique, Armazém A
This is, probably, the BEST disco in portugal and definately a place to meet. It's owned by the same guys from FRAGIL and also by the actor John Malkovitch (who apparently loves Lisbon). It's a huge place with 3 floors: bottom floor is a full blow disco with dance music, intermediate floor is a chill-out zone with relaxing music and big couches, and top floor is just a big open space on the roof with no music and no lights - just the beautifull viwes of Lisbon and the river. A real special place! It may be a little tricky to get there so it'll be wise to take a taxi.
Well this list is already a bit long and still I only scraped the surface. Lisbon night has much much more to offer so if you have any more questions just feel free to ask.
Hug
Sappa
Lobo Mau was right. I did mispell the name of the bar.The correct name is Bartis.
Here are some of my favourite choices for a cool Lisbon night out:
BARTIS (BAIRRO ALTO)
Rua Diário de Noticias, 95
(Tiny mostly Jazz bar with great chicken toasts untill 2:00 am. It has no sign on the door but only a red light)
PÁGINAS TANTAS (BAIRRO ALTO)
Rua Diário de Noticias (?)
(A slightly bigger Jazz bar with a good wine selection and relaxed atmosphere)
ANIMATó GARFO (BAIRRO ALTO)
(Travessa da Laranjeira, 35 - close to Calçada do Combro and Miradouro do Adamastor)
This is my favourite bar lately. It's very, very small but great undergroung sounds (actually almost anything goes there) and they also have snacks for those late munchies (great soups and toasts). Ask for Rui (the owner).
(If you decide to go to ANIMATÓ GARFO you may want to make a stop at the really close by esplanade in Miradouro do Adamastor to get a beautifull view of Lisbon, the river and the other margin.The esplane service is nothing special but the view is worthwhile.)
TERTÚLIA (BAIRRO ALTO)
Rua Diário de Noticias, 60
(Also a Jazz bar with good drink list. very quiet. It has a piano and anyone can play).
HOT CLUBE DE PORTUGAL (just off BAIRRO ALTO)
Praça da Alegria (go by Metro and get off in Avenida Station and walk there for about 3 minutes)
(This is probably the first jazz bar in Lisbon. It started out as an Association for jazz musicians and funny anough my grand-father was associate nº 02! This is a really special place where you can listen to live music and improvs almost every night. I once took a South African friend who is a Sax player and he played there for a big part of the night. You will have to pay a small fee at the entrance - maybe 2 ou 3 euros - but the experience is great. Don't be put off by the fact that it is small and dark. it just adds to its charm)
INSTITUTO DO VINHO DO PORTO (BAIRRO ALTO)
Rua São Pedro de Alcântara (take the funicular ELEVADOR DA GLÓRIA and just cross the street)
This is also a special place. It's a bar that represents every Port wine Producer in Portugal and you can experiment EVERY port wine that is made in this country for very cheap. It's a beautifull place to go to after dinner and a great way to start off your party night. Also a clever way to really get to know Port wine without having to go to Porto.
CHAPITÔ (ALFAMA)
Rua Costa do Castelo
Make some time to go to ALFAMA (old quarter near the castle) to visit the castle of São Jorge. And then try CHAPITÔ. You can go for dinner or just drinks. Great views and atmosphere. This place is also a school for circus arts so you will find lots of very interesting people.
SPEAKEASY (www.speakeasy-bar.com)
Cais das Oficinas - Rocha Conde Óbidos
Another jazzy bar with restaurant (a little on the expensive side) by the river. Good food and sometimes live music.
DISCOS:
FRÁGIL (BAIRRO ALTO)
Rua da Atalaia, 126/8
If you like to dance then you must definately meet FRÁGIL - the first disco in Lisbon with almost 20 years and still going. It's very small but the music is garanteed to be good. May be a little dificult to get in but try anyway - still today I don't understand their admitance policy...)
LUX-FRÁGIL (www.luxfragil.com)
Avenida Infante D. Henrique, Armazém A
This is, probably, the BEST disco in portugal and definately a place to meet. It's owned by the same guys from FRAGIL and also by the actor John Malkovitch (who apparently loves Lisbon). It's a huge place with 3 floors: bottom floor is a full blow disco with dance music, intermediate floor is a chill-out zone with relaxing music and big couches, and top floor is just a big open space on the roof with no music and no lights - just the beautifull viwes of Lisbon and the river. A real special place! It may be a little tricky to get there so it'll be wise to take a taxi.
Well this list is already a bit long and still I only scraped the surface. Lisbon night has much much more to offer so if you have any more questions just feel free to ask.
Hug
Sappa
Jul 4th, 2006, 07:16 AM
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Hi again Nikki,
I forgot to send you this adress for a map of the BAIRRO ALTO:
http://viajar.clix.pt/pt/dst3200.php...mg=1&lg=pt
It's very easy to get lost inside there but don't worry... even we do! Just ask for directions, portuguese people are usually quite friendly and happy to help.
Sappa
I forgot to send you this adress for a map of the BAIRRO ALTO:
http://viajar.clix.pt/pt/dst3200.php...mg=1&lg=pt
It's very easy to get lost inside there but don't worry... even we do! Just ask for directions, portuguese people are usually quite friendly and happy to help.
Sappa
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Jul 5th, 2006, 04:42 AM
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csandoval - To answer your question about driving versus taking the bus:
We originally were going to take the bus rather than renting a car since the guidebooks say that the bus system is very good in Portugal. In the end, we decided on having our own car since we would be moving around so much. It worked out very well for us and we're glad that we did it that way. We enjoyed the freedom of having our own schedule - getting an early start if we knew our day ahead was a busy one, taking scenic routes instead of the highways, and stopping at an unplanned stop if we saw something we liked (that's how we stumbled on the pottery shop). So, I highly recommend renting a car if your itinerary involves visiting many towns and cities. If you're only visiting a few destinations, then buses/trains may be fine for you. For instance, if you're staying mainly in Lisbon and taking day trips from there, then I would look into trains/buses rather than parking a car in Lisbon. We took the train to Sintra from Lisbon early in our trip when we didn't have a rental car and it worked out wonderfully. Also, our train ride from Porto to Lisbon went smoothly.
We originally were going to take the bus rather than renting a car since the guidebooks say that the bus system is very good in Portugal. In the end, we decided on having our own car since we would be moving around so much. It worked out very well for us and we're glad that we did it that way. We enjoyed the freedom of having our own schedule - getting an early start if we knew our day ahead was a busy one, taking scenic routes instead of the highways, and stopping at an unplanned stop if we saw something we liked (that's how we stumbled on the pottery shop). So, I highly recommend renting a car if your itinerary involves visiting many towns and cities. If you're only visiting a few destinations, then buses/trains may be fine for you. For instance, if you're staying mainly in Lisbon and taking day trips from there, then I would look into trains/buses rather than parking a car in Lisbon. We took the train to Sintra from Lisbon early in our trip when we didn't have a rental car and it worked out wonderfully. Also, our train ride from Porto to Lisbon went smoothly.
Jul 5th, 2006, 06:04 PM
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Bailey - I was just re-reading your post about the river cruise. You said it departs at 3pm from Praca do Comercio. Is it just the one time each day? Do you remember the name of the company? If we just go down there a little before 3 some day will we find it? It sounds like exactly the cruise I'd want to take so I don't want to get the wrong one. I know a lot of ciites have numerous companies running sightseeing cruises. Thanks
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csandoval - If your experience with Budget is like ours, you'll be very happy with them.
isabel - My ticket stubs from our river cruise actually don't have the company name on them, but I think they may be the only company that does Tejo River cruises. They left from the Terreiro do Paco dock, off of the Praca do Comercio - we didn't see any other companies at that dock. If you are standing in Praca do Comercio, facing the river, then the dock is to the left. Look for signs that say "Cruzeiros No Tejo". We had heard that they have cruises at 11 am and 3 pm each day, but when we were there, they were only going at 3 pm each day.
isabel - My ticket stubs from our river cruise actually don't have the company name on them, but I think they may be the only company that does Tejo River cruises. They left from the Terreiro do Paco dock, off of the Praca do Comercio - we didn't see any other companies at that dock. If you are standing in Praca do Comercio, facing the river, then the dock is to the left. Look for signs that say "Cruzeiros No Tejo". We had heard that they have cruises at 11 am and 3 pm each day, but when we were there, they were only going at 3 pm each day.
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Bailey, quick question on the rental car. I've booked it thru Car Jet, however, it doesn't say if the rental is with unlimited mileage (kilometers). Do you know if this was the case with yours?
Also, I just booked my hotel room at Pensao Geres. It seems to be in a great centralized location. Last time I was in Lisbon, I stayed at the Marriott using my points. Marriott is a great hotel, but a bit out of the beaten path.
C
Also, I just booked my hotel room at Pensao Geres. It seems to be in a great centralized location. Last time I was in Lisbon, I stayed at the Marriott using my points. Marriott is a great hotel, but a bit out of the beaten path.
C
Jul 8th, 2006, 04:24 AM
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csandoval.
Look in the fine print. You do get unlimited km with the rental.
You realize there is an excess that you are responsible for if you damage the car unless you pay for the extra insurance.
Look in the fine print. You do get unlimited km with the rental.
You realize there is an excess that you are responsible for if you damage the car unless you pay for the extra insurance.
