Cheryl, <BR><BR>You just musta of been unlucky at d'angleterre. Many people on this board have stayed there and loved it. Many people will not stay anywhere else. I've stayed at a number of hotels in the 6th including l'Abbaye but perfer d'angleterre. I think that Kate is correct, if you want clean and shiny stay at a chain.<BR><BR>If you run into this problem again, it might help to ask for another room. <BR><BR>Maribel, <BR><BR>hotels in Paris have very small rooms, it's worth the extra money for the deluxe room. Just a thought. <BR><BR>

I have been to Le Sainte Beuve and found it wonderful. My latest stay in July was at the Hotel Pas des Calais, also wonderful. Both have web sites.

I don't believe Kate said that you had to stay at a chain to get clean rooms, and her statement on "shiny" rooms was a bit different. <BR><BR>I do quite a bit of research on French hotels, and have some favorites including one I prefer in Paris -- all are smaller, French independent hotels and ALL have been clean and well-maintained. It is really wrong to claim that you must stay in a chain to get clean rooms, I think there is a bias in that remark, as well as the obvious put-down and air of superiority in those statements to anyone who expects a room to be clean and maintained, and towards Americans. Decent hotels do not have dirty rooms, smelly pillows, etc. Believe it or not, all Americans do not stay in modern chain hotels even in the US and there are actually hotels with taste and character in the US, also. 248 euro for a room that is dirty and not well-maintained is outrageous, not a reflection of superior European taste and charm.

Christina, thanks for agreeing with my thoughts. For sure we were unlucky based on Kate and Beth's experiences at d'Angleterre. I kid no one that we paid 248 euro/night and that the maintenance was lacking quite a bit in our room - #47. I expected a high standard. But on tripadvisor.com there are two other parties who found their rooms unsatisfactory also. I do not want to stay in a chain hotel and don't think that's the solution. Plain and simple, a hotel that's well-maintained is well-maintained whether it's a chain or a small hotel.<BR><BR>Sorry, but I understand that there are repeat guests at d'Angleterre and maybe they are given better rooms?

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Hi Ryan<BR>My wife and I always stay at the Hotel Bonaparte, 61 Rue Bonaparte.<BR><BR>You can find location and other info at http://www.voila.fr/PJ/<BR><BR>They do not have a web site or email.

We just returned and stayed 4 nights at Hotel St. Germain (88 Rue de Bac)www.hotel-saint-germain.fr<BR><BR>We had a nice, but small, double room facing Rue de Bac for $150.euros. It's in the 6th and is very near to the intersection w/ Blvd. St. Germain. Lots of great shopping and cafes. Wonderful, lively neighborhood.

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Hi,<BR><BR>I stayed at the Hotel des Deux Continents on Rue Jacob last June, because the Hotel du Danube was booked. The Deux Continents was clean and nice, but had very small rooms. It was quite affordable though, but if I had my choice, I would have stayed at the Hotel du Danube. Rue Jacob is a great street in a terrific neighborhood.<BR><BR>Have fun!

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We stayed at the Madison in June, and love it. We had a double room with a boulevard view. It had french doors we could open and look out across the small square to the Blvd St-Germain and the church. Convenient metro stops for two lines withing half a block. The room was nicely done an medium sized for a Paris hotel. An excellent buffet breakfast is included in the price, which would be in the top of your range for our room. The view was worth the extra money.

John, if you don't mind telling, how much did your room at the Madison cost? It's not around 200 euro or so? Or maybe the larger rooms go for 200 and up? Thanks.

Stayed at Hotel Danube and liked it. Have heard Madison is nice too. I have read nice things about the Artus on the review sheet but havent stayed there. Does anyone know anything about that hotel?

Just returned from France this week. The Hotel Millesime on Rue Jacob is very nice, bathrooms are all modern. Location cant be beat, no street noise and only a couple blocks from Blvd. St. Germain where the &quot;action&quot; is. Would stay there again. A great patisserie is one block away, Laduree..soo wonderful.

Ryan, have you tried le Maidison? We liked it a lot. Don't know much about the Artus except that it has high ratings on this site and seemed busy when we did see it. You will love the 6th and its fun streets and shops.

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Ryan: this hotel doesn't fit your parameters at all, but I want to add it to the mix because we thoroughly enjoyed it. We just returned from a long trip to France...spent the last three nights at the Hotel de la Notre Dame on Rue Maitre Albert...an old, narrow little street directly across from Notre Dame (5th, close to 6th). One can walk 50 yards in one direction and be right at the river and Notre Dame, or 50 yards the other direction and be on Blvd Saint Germaine. Our room was small but very nice, not luxurious. 160 euros with breakfast. Round-the-clock staff at the desk (I like that).

Yesterday's New York Times Travel section recommended the Marronniers, 21 rue Jacob, quoting doubles at $150 to $170. I stayed there one night once, we fled the next day because the bedroom and the bathroom were so very tiny, especially given the price even at that time.<BR>The Times did just call the rooms &quot;tiny&quot; and mentioned &quot;anorexic shower stalls.&quot;<BR>Also recommended in the same article, in the 6th, Relais Christine, standard doubles &quot;are not large&quot; and are a very pricey $365-$410.

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