Packing tips - Paris - March - 10 days

Mar 17th, 2003, 09:58 AM
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Packing tips - Paris - March - 10 days

I recommend the following
*one pair of good black slacks that don't wrinkle - preferably with a matching jacket
*one pair of black knit pants - comfy
*One pair of more casual pants - black of course
*One black skirt and two dressy tops for evenings out
*five tops and preferably one of them is warmish
*sometimes I take a leather jacket too for more sporty wear
*short hose- one pair per day and thin socks with no inside seams - wear these together to keep from getting blisters
*two pairs of extraordinarily comfortable shoes that lace up or have a strap - need firm support and very thick soles - I like Wulkys'
*one pair of super comfortable dress pumps - closed in but nice
*an overcoat- light weight - good for layering if it turns off cold
*a really warm scarf to toss in your bag if it gets cold
*three bras
*hose
*sleep wear and a light robe
*two nice scarves that match everything and costume jewelry - remember you'll want to buy these there also
*other stuff- a sharp knife and wine opener, scissors , nail clippers- this to go in checked bag only
*a backpack or comfy back for over the shoulder to carry purchases during the day-here I keep an umbrella, guidebook, dictionary,
* an evening bag
*a shoulder bag- smallish to carry money, a small map book ( I highly recommend my Micelin Editions des voyages - Paris atlas par arrondisements because it shows addresses-you can get it in english too)-copy of your passport and credit cards
*address book, cell phone for calls enroute, , pens, pencill, indexcards,nail care stuff, meds, cosmetics, toiletries, etc. I always take travel hot rollers and a small flashlight. That's really all you need.
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Mar 17th, 2003, 10:08 AM
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After many wonderful trips to Paris, I have come across a good way to Plan for Paris.
*one morning at the beginning of your trip - Pick a Market - maybe the rue Poncelet - and go from 10 or 11 till one pm - take a rolling basket and buy stuff for your room - hopefully it has a fridge at least some wine, a baguette, some yogurt-I recommend la ferme du menege from monoprix, some clementines and strawberries, and a cheese - maybe some olives
-go by a wonderful flower market and pick up a luscious bouquet of flowers for your room and ask your hotel if you can borrow a vase - it's amazing how beautiful the French do flowers
*take a big suitcase- don't try to be heroic and carry it on - you'll need room for purchases - take an extra bag that you can stuff with all your books, papers, and stuff that doesn't fit in your big bag and check it. I always keep a big folder for these extra papers, maps, and such.
I like to go on Wed or Thursday
the first full day- if it's not a Monday- I go to the Louvre because it is serious serious walking. I don't recommend the cafe marly - just get a bite somewhere handy and focus instead on soaking up some culture. If I still have some juice left I go to the Palais royal gardens and then go to Galerie Vivienne on that day. When near the Lovre I highy recommend the store called Sennelier for art supplies for gifts - pastels, colored pencils, drawing pencil or paint sets and some drawing paper make great gifts from the store where famous artists got their paints mixed. 3 rue quai augustines across from the louvre.
Saturday - I love to Go to the Jardin du Luxembourg and watch the joggers and tai chi enthusiasts. Go to a lovely little cafe near there and be tres parisian. Go to christian Tortu flower shop at 6 carrefour Odeon and see the best in Paris. Maybe buy your room bouquet there. This is a good day to shop the St Germaine area - rue des St Peres is a good street - go to Othello for wonderful wonderful fabulous jewelry but don't expect detaxe. If you want a good haircut - try Jaques Dessanges nearby - I love Mari Ange - stylist. There's also a guy there who gives fabulous man's cuts to die for. Wonderful flower shop nearby called Olivier Patou at 23 Rue des St. Peres.
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Mar 17th, 2003, 10:11 AM
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Sunday
Sunday-Do the Notre Dame- then go to the Marais - start at Centre Pompidou (just to see the outside or maybe ride the escalators - I'm not big on the exhibits - very contemporary) - walk down the rue de Francois de Bourgois all day (fabulous shopping open on sunday) and end up in the Places des Vosges around sunset to see the beautiful buildings in their splendor - don't try to sit on the grass
Monday _ I always do the Eiffel tower on Mondays because the museums are closed then. then go to the Arc de triomphe and then stroll the Champs de elysees un peu. Makeup fans might want to go to Sophora there - I didn't like the heavy perfume smell and it was too hot but my neice loved it.
Tuesday - go to a Galeries Lafayette fashion show - reserve a place on line at their web site and take the reservation with you. then eat lunch upstairs and shop till you drop. Keep all your tickets until you're ready to ring out - so you can get detaxe. check out their costume jewelry - it's wonderful. and their handbags are too. this is an all day affair but if you want more go to Printemps-good bags and hats.
Wednesday - is a good day for Versailles - but I opt instead for museums like the Magritte exhibit at the jeau de paume or the Grand Palais for the Chagall exhibit - check out what's current during your stay. After jeau de paume it's fun to stroll the tuileries. If you're still up for strolling - you can work in the Palais royal gardens and end up with tea at the Galerie vivienne at Priori the or the little wine bar there. While there be sure to check out Emilio robba - especially the stem flowers downstairs - available only in France - if you get a lot get them to mail them to you - no detaxe and no rumpled flowers.
Thursday - I like to go to Musee D'orsay - start out at the back of the major Impressionistes room and then work forward chronologically to see the Van Goghs and degas and definitely go see the Odilon redon and Degas pastels. do the statuary downstairs last and then swing through the gift shop. Definitely eat lunch in the most opulent Cafe dEs Hauteurs - to die for - and take pictures.
friday - you might want to fill in whatever you haven't done yet - maybe shopping - maybe the musee Jaquemart Andre and the wax museum - just some ideas.
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Mar 17th, 2003, 10:21 AM
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One more thing - just remember that us citizens are allowed 1400 worth of purchases - for each person in the family. That might sound like an unfathomable amout but you'd be surprised how much it can add up over course of a few weeks.

I usually save out a few seasonal purchases and buy them in Paris- for example a handbag or sunglasses, maybe some costume jewelry, I also buy Christmas gifts there and save them and get a store card to go along wtih it. Home furnishings are so fabulous there - even a remnant from a fabric store made into a pillow makes a wonderful souvenir. I never buy anything from the US while in France (except for sunscreen-be sure to take plenty). I always buy postcards and stamps for them early in the trip and then mail them out about midway through my trip. A box of chocolates from a trendy chocolatier-Pierre Herme on rue Bonaparte for example, makes a good gift. I also like to bring back notecards from museums - also a good place to buy postcards.
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Mar 17th, 2003, 10:28 AM
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One more thing. On shopping- my favorite handbag places are La Bagagerie and Nannini (extraordinarily great styles and wonderful prices compared to the designers. Lancel has some nice things and you can find them all at Galeries Lafayette I think.
Hats are really coming back in style - if you buy one, get a box for it and carry it on the plane home. This makes a great major purchase you will cherish always.

Save money for food and snacks for the airplane for the terribly long ride home. I recommend taking some kind of fruit and nuts or crackers on the plane.

It is very difficult to find larger sizes in France- shoes 9/12 plus and size 12 and up is super hard to find. Marina Renaldi has larger clothes and Galeries Lafayette has them too. Shoes - forget about it.

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Mar 17th, 2003, 10:38 AM
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Oh, and this last post while it is all fresh on my mind. I just got back last night. Clothes are very very expensive in Paris - really everything is, especially food. Rather than searching down certain restaurants, I like to search for certain dishes - for example, for me, no trip to Paris is complete without choucroute, escargots, huitres-oysters, fois gras d'oie, tart tatin, a millefeuille, onion soupe, frites, steak with sauce bernaise, and a croque madame. I just try to work those into my trip and that seems like enough.

And on clothes. I always try to get one great coat or jacket because they do those better than anything I can find in the US. Their raincoats are just super. I usually try to get one great scarf if it really speaks to me - I like Kenzo scarves the best. Other than that, I don't kill myself over trying to find clothes. It just takes too much time and I'd really rather see the sights and take in some culture.

Not to say my way's the only way. I just have really benefitted from your comments over the years and wanted to pass on a few if they might help.
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Mar 17th, 2003, 10:53 AM
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Darn, I meant to add this to the last one- a tip I learned from a guide I hired in Paris once. He says to go see several hotels each trip so you can find where to stay next time. I recommend you get something close to shopping and restaurants so you can just walk to dinner and shop along the way. For this reason I recommend the St. Germaine area or the marais near Place des Vosges. Ask people in the area where to stay. Just be careful what you give up for the price. I think having a refridgerator, a lift, safe, phone, TV, and bathtub are critical. And I really like having a view of the street and a little table I can pull up to the window for meals- and general well being. And, I really want to be able to pay with a credit card.

Also, don't foget taxicabs. When you start getting tired. cabs can really make things a lot better. Get a map that shows taxi stand locations. If you need a ccab, ask your hotel to call one for you plenty in advance. Restaurants are usually happy to call a cab, just ask them to call when you ask for your bill.

And learn to ride a bus. It's super easy and much nicer than the metro except in traffic - then the metro rules.

Oh, and don't fret about how to look as stylish as the French. Really, that's their area of expertise. Let them shine in their uncomfortable shoes. You go for comfort so you can enjoy your trip more. Learn from them and pray that one day you too will be able to wear pointed shoes while walking 20 miles a day. Think of it this way, if you lived in Paris, you could look like the impeccable French ladies too because they have the pick of the best in the world.
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Mar 17th, 2003, 11:30 AM
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While we're at it
things everyone needs to see and do at least once in Paris -
*Go to the Place des Vosges at sunset.
*Eat at Chez Julien -fois gras d'oie with toast and reisling, steak and bernaise with frites, profiteroles au chocolat
*boat ride down the seine at dusk
*go to the musee d'orsay and see the van goghs and degas at least
*Go to the Jardin du Luxembourg on a Saturday or sunday
*Go to a flower shop
*go to a market
*Notre Dame on a Sunday
*Go see the ritz hotel and at least see the espadon room
*go to a french cheese shop and take some cheese and bread and wine to your room and sit by the window and laugh at your former problems
*walk along the seine near the Notre dame - maybe get your picture drawn there
*hang out at the champs de mars near the eiffel tour on a sat or sunday and watch the skaters and see the fountain (it was closed a few weeks ago)
*sit outside at a cafe and drink coffee and have a pastry at 3 or 4 pm like the parisians do
*eat pate fois gras d'oie
*have french fries and mayonnaise
*eat clementines
*go to the louvre if for nothing else to at least see Napolean's aparttement
*hear the bells at St. Sulpice in the evening around 6ish?
*go to the wax museum
*see the gallerie vivienne
*stand at the arch de triomphe and look down the grand boulevards
*stroll through the Tuileries and imagine it as it was when the kings lived there
*go to a pastry shop and buy something decadent
Well, that's a start anyway - I'm sure I left out lots
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Apr 13th, 2003, 09:06 PM
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Wow - great info! I was just searching through old posts for packing tips and came across it.

Leaving for London/Paris in 18 hours!!! I can't wait!!!
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Apr 16th, 2003, 12:43 PM
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I want to thank the poster for taking the time to write this. It is very helpful info, and I will be referring to it often in the next couple of months.
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Apr 16th, 2003, 01:29 PM
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just wondering if any guys made it though this, and if so, what did you think?

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Kt-tak - I think maria just got off the beaten track a little...okay a lot. But her posts were full of information.
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Apr 21st, 2003, 04:23 AM
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Thanks, Mariacallas, that should help me remember to stop and smell the roses!
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