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Old Jan 18th, 2004 | 07:24 AM
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overnight train rome to venice

I have been looking at rail europe and trenitalia for overnight train schedules rome to venice. (We will have 5 short days there the beginning of February) I know it's cheaper to buy in Italy, but I can't help it I'm a planner. My problem is, I can't find the same train on both sites and the web site doesn't offer a sleeper car. I guess my question is... Has anyone taken an overnight train and what's the best way to do it? Thanks for any help!
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Old Jan 18th, 2004 | 07:37 AM
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hello desilu - the train trip from rome to venice is not an overnight journey - I may be grossly incorrect here (would not be the first time!) - but I believe the only train that travels overnight along that route is the orient-express.
which - if it is in your budget - you should jump on!
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Old Jan 18th, 2004 | 07:44 AM
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Hi desilu,

I haven't been able to access the Trentalia site for a while but I took a look at the German train schedule.

There's an overnight train departing Rome Tiburtina station (don't know where that is) at 22:53. It arrives Venice SL at 5:31. Total travel time is 6 hrs 38 minutes. There are sleepers and couchettes. Don't know how much sleep you'd get with 12 station stops; you might arrive quite tired. I find I wake up on trains when the motion stops.

Why don't you take an early morning train. There's a Eurostar at 6:55 that arrives in Venice SL at 11:28, or a 7:30 arriving at 12:50.
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Old Jan 18th, 2004 | 08:10 AM
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Hi desilu,

I go with adrienne.

The RailEurope site doesn't list all of the trains.

You can now buy tickets online from trenitalia. See Trenitalia Tickets Online
http://www.fodors.com/forums/threads...p;tid=34465647
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Old Jan 18th, 2004 | 08:16 AM
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Try going back on the trenitalia website and type in "Roma Termini" and "Venezia" to search. I got that to work. Adrienne is correct, there's an overnight train which leaves from Roma Tiburtina (which is about 4 subway stops from Roma Termini). It leaves Rome Tiburtina at 22:53 and gets in at Venezia S.L. at 5:31a. You want to take the trains to Venezia S.L. and not Mestre. That train does list that they have couchettes in both 1st & 2nd class.

Have a good trip.
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Old Jan 18th, 2004 | 08:34 AM
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Ira - thanks for the new location. I've been using trenitalia.it which doesn't work but trenitalia.com does. One further hint - type venezia s. lucia rather than venezia sl which I was doing. For some reason the site doesn't recognize the abbreviation SL, although it used to.
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Old Jan 21st, 2004 | 04:43 PM
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Sorry for such a late response. Thanks for everybody's help. I'm going to try the Trenitalia website, but am thinking that I might just play it by ear and purchase when I get there. Thanks again!
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Old Jan 21st, 2004 | 06:26 PM
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I do not remember the details but Ben Haines has posted a tip about traveling PAST Venice (to Trieste?) to be able to say on the train until a more civilized hour, and then taking a (one hour?) ride BACK to Venice.

But I agree with others - - it's only 4.5 hours, why not just make it a day trip. Try it during a meal time; there is good (but overpriced) white tablecloth dining car service between Florence and Venice.

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Old Jan 21st, 2004 | 06:33 PM
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Rex - the meal is very overpriced...25Euros. Buy a picnic lunch and eat it at your seat.
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Old Jan 21st, 2004 | 06:39 PM
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I suppose you can say that when comparing any white tablecloth dining to a picnic lunch.

But anyhow, I did acknowledge that it IS overpriced. Traveling during mealtime is still a good alternative to "forcing" an overnight ride on this short route.
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Old Jan 21st, 2004 | 09:13 PM
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It is not an over night trip. You need to pay attention to the EuroStar ES or Intercity IC trains which are faster trains. Otherwise you WILL need a sleeper. First class is not necessary either but do purchase a reserved seat in second class it is worth it.
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