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Nov 10th, 2006, 07:58 PM
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Not so fast, Cato --
At a cardiology conference a while back where they compared heart circulation at the cellular level after a big mac and after a bowl of frosted flakes. After the big mac the circulation was dangerously sluggish (not so with the cereal).
At a cardiology conference a while back where they compared heart circulation at the cellular level after a big mac and after a bowl of frosted flakes. After the big mac the circulation was dangerously sluggish (not so with the cereal).
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Nov 11th, 2006, 02:12 AM
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The grasshopper is a good coffee-shop if you want somewhere a bit less 'seedy' looking than some of them. IT looks like a modern diner. Not big on atmosphere but it does nice food as well as the other...it's straight up the road from central station (over the bridge) on the lefthand side (5 mins walk).
Nov 12th, 2006, 06:54 AM
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Ira and P-Bob - one of the problems in the design of pot v tobacco studies is that commercially marketed cigarettes are crammed with a number of undisclosed substances ranging from sugar to a number of volatile compounds (legally protected as "trade secret ingredients"
thus it is impossible to call it a truly controlled study. Of course, no IRB would approve a longitudinal study where subjects were required to smoke dispensed tobacco whose componentes would be known - and it would be pretty hard to recruit subjects if it were truly randomized.
thus it is impossible to call it a truly controlled study. Of course, no IRB would approve a longitudinal study where subjects were required to smoke dispensed tobacco whose componentes would be known - and it would be pretty hard to recruit subjects if it were truly randomized.
Nov 12th, 2006, 12:59 PM
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A comment and a question:
First, the comment. While pot may be as carcinogenic as cigarettes, I don't think most people smoke a pack a day of joints, as opposed to cigarette smokers. Therefore, even if pot is as dangerous as tobacco, it would take much, much longer for it to have a carcinogenic effect, no?
Second, the question. I will be traveling to Amsterdam from the U.S. with my daughter for a few days next summer. She will be 11 years old, and I am a little concerned about her leaving there feeling that pot is OK. Does anyone have any suggestions of areas or places that we really should avoid (other the coffee shops)? I would prefer to avoid the following two lectures in responses: 1. If you don't want to be around pot, don't go to Amsterdam (I just want to limit the exposure while having an educational visit to a historic city) and 2) Your child is going to be exposed to drugs anyway (I know that, I'm a teacher.) Thank you for any constructive suggestions.
First, the comment. While pot may be as carcinogenic as cigarettes, I don't think most people smoke a pack a day of joints, as opposed to cigarette smokers. Therefore, even if pot is as dangerous as tobacco, it would take much, much longer for it to have a carcinogenic effect, no?
Second, the question. I will be traveling to Amsterdam from the U.S. with my daughter for a few days next summer. She will be 11 years old, and I am a little concerned about her leaving there feeling that pot is OK. Does anyone have any suggestions of areas or places that we really should avoid (other the coffee shops)? I would prefer to avoid the following two lectures in responses: 1. If you don't want to be around pot, don't go to Amsterdam (I just want to limit the exposure while having an educational visit to a historic city) and 2) Your child is going to be exposed to drugs anyway (I know that, I'm a teacher.) Thank you for any constructive suggestions.
Nov 12th, 2006, 01:11 PM
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I won't give you either of those responses.
You have to go INTO a coffee house to purchase or experience pot. I think the earlier posters statements that one can smoke dope wherever and whenever have been thoroughly disputed.
If she notices the jamaican colored flags or hemp shaped decals you will need to explain this to her. You get to tell her what you think about it, you are THE mom after all.
Albeit, what she thinks is up to her, as it always is with kids. LOL
You have to go INTO a coffee house to purchase or experience pot. I think the earlier posters statements that one can smoke dope wherever and whenever have been thoroughly disputed.
If she notices the jamaican colored flags or hemp shaped decals you will need to explain this to her. You get to tell her what you think about it, you are THE mom after all.
Albeit, what she thinks is up to her, as it always is with kids. LOL
Nov 12th, 2006, 01:18 PM
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Just want to make sure I have this straight. Government studies on tobacco are totally believable. Government studies on marijuana are not to be believed or trusted. It's OK to be a light pot smoker. It's not OK to be a light cigarette smoker. I understand now.
Nov 12th, 2006, 01:31 PM
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What Danna said. Walking through Amsterdam is scarcely aware that pot is commercially available. The places that sell it have a decal visible near the entrance, about the size of the decal you see when an establishment accepts MasterCard.
Of more concern, I would think, is avoiding the small area of Amsterdam where near-naked prostitutes sit in windows soliciting business. The area is well-marked on maps.
The fact is, however, that the Dutch believe that whether or not one smokes marijuana or hires prostitues is an individual choice, not a matter of right and wrong (like say, stealing).
It's a different culture, but unless you go looking for it, it won't be part of your or your daughter's experience.
Amsterdam is a great place for kids. Have a wonderful time.
Of more concern, I would think, is avoiding the small area of Amsterdam where near-naked prostitutes sit in windows soliciting business. The area is well-marked on maps.
The fact is, however, that the Dutch believe that whether or not one smokes marijuana or hires prostitues is an individual choice, not a matter of right and wrong (like say, stealing).
It's a different culture, but unless you go looking for it, it won't be part of your or your daughter's experience.
Amsterdam is a great place for kids. Have a wonderful time.
Nov 13th, 2006, 01:44 AM
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The red-light district is the only area I would stay away from with an 11-year old. Not that it's unsafe; just not a place for children.
Amsterdam is a great city for kids. As other posters said; you will not notice any dope or drugs unless you go into the clearly marked coffeeshops.
Amsterdam is a great city for kids. As other posters said; you will not notice any dope or drugs unless you go into the clearly marked coffeeshops.
Nov 13th, 2006, 06:33 PM
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cferrb ... If your 11 year old daughter hasn't been exposed to pot at home, which I am assuming that she hasn't, she probably won't even notice the coffee shops or the logos or pictures in their windows. If she does, she won't know what they mean anyway.
They are not on every block, everywhere in the city, and as a tourist unaware of Amsterdam's 'vices', they will just be ordinary businesses to her.
The windows in the Red Light districts are another story, but I doubt that she will be exposed to that area.
She'll love Amsterdam, don't worry.
They are not on every block, everywhere in the city, and as a tourist unaware of Amsterdam's 'vices', they will just be ordinary businesses to her.
The windows in the Red Light districts are another story, but I doubt that she will be exposed to that area.
She'll love Amsterdam, don't worry.
Nov 14th, 2006, 04:05 AM
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Jeez, I can't believe what this simple question morphed into!. To all that actually answered my question, thank you! To those that felt they need to hold a discussion about "smoking", Why? To audere_est_facere who stated: "strains sold in Amsterdam are much much stronger than anything that was around when you were younger (northern lights is 300% stronger than non-hybrid dope)." You have no idea what was around when I was younger and if what you said is true there won't be a Twinkie left in the world
Nov 14th, 2006, 04:30 AM
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Most septics who go to HamsterJam aren't used to the hydroponic stuff. It's just generally good advice to assume it's going to be stronger than what you usually get.
You can get an unbiased account here (by seppos) I'd also recommend their tours:
http://www.boomchicago.nl/en/communi...ndex.cfm?i=925
You can get an unbiased account here (by seppos) I'd also recommend their tours:
http://www.boomchicago.nl/en/communi...ndex.cfm?i=925
