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Oct 23rd, 2006, 10:02 AM
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Dear Ira: I respect your view - but i was just summarizing various reputable studies i've read (and can't quote right now) and Dr Andrew Weil from a TV appearance where he said his studies showed just how benign cannaboids were - i'd like to see studies using the part of pot plant folks smoke that say it's destructive - NORML keeps claiming that no one has ever died from the effects of smoking cannabis - and Rick Steves is on their board of directors i believe so it MUST be so!

Obviously smoking anything could have some kind of deleterious affect on the lungs one would think - just that it's probably way lower than pollution, tobacco smoke, second-hand tobacco smoke, radon in houses and a zillion other legal things.

But as W says reasonable folks can disagree on this.
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What about banana peels? Dangerous? Will they get you messed up?

Answer: even when dehydrated, it doesn't work. And certainly not when they are fresh.

Ah, the things kids do when they watch Beavis and Butthead.
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I haven't laughed out loud to a post in a very long time! Thanks for that and some very good info.
Are the brownies, muffins- spacecakes on most of the menus? I would rather not inhale, if I don't have to.
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Nov 9th, 2006, 09:45 PM
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L84SKY - Go to www.channels.nl there is a link to the coffeeshops. I bought a 'brownie' at Abraxas. The label, sign on the cooler and the 'budtender' all had warnings to just try a small piece and wait 45 minutes or so to gauge the effects. Did I listen? No, I ate the whole thing!! Talk about a good time.

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Wow, now that's a handy site!
Thanks, TRSW.
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Nov 10th, 2006, 01:29 AM
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Most tourist oriented places have taken the space cakes off the menu. Tourists were getting far too stoned on them and falling in the canals (this is absolutely true).

The ready rolled spliffs are called "stickies" and can knock your socks off. In general if you're not a regular smoker you should be a bit careful as some of the strains sold in Amsterdam are much much stronger than anything that was around when you were younger (northern lights is 300% stronger than non-hybrid dope). The effects are different too. The hybrid strains have high THC levels and low cannabinoid levels. This means that they deliver the psychedelic hit without the soporific effect.

Audere - nowadays nothing stronger than Fullers London pride.
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Be careful the space cakes can be very strong. Eat a part, wait for a while to feel the effect, then eat a little more. Don't scoff the lot in one go as you could end up with more than you bargained for. Nice though!
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This thread really made me laugh. I liked Neo's story about the "cooking" in the room.
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Nov 10th, 2006, 05:59 AM
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I was just in Amsterdam and had a great time. for two days I did nothing but go in and out of coffee shops. I I recommend the Laughing Buda and the Pink Floyd coffee shop that I spend a lot of time in both of those. There is also a two story coffee shop, but I canít remember the name of it. Be careful walking up and down the spiral stair case. I saw someone fall it was funny, but dangerous. I smoked in a small restaurant with a few of the workers and they gave me a free pizza for smoking them up.
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Nov 10th, 2006, 06:55 AM
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<Smoke from marijuana is as unhealthy as tobacco, tea leaves, oak leaves, common grass, sawdust or any other cellulosic material>

Ira - not so if a University of California and University of Michigan NIH (!) funded study just released is to be believed - they studied chronic cannabis smokers who had been smoking regularly for 30 years - and though their goal was to find lung damage resulting from pot smoke, the study's conclusion was (paraphrasing) - that though smoking anything (like Ira says) is not health-promoting the study could find nothing substantial in the lung health of pot smokers over non-pot smoking, saying that the detrimental effects on the lungs seems nearly nothing...yet those in the study that also smoked tobacco showed expected lung problems associated with tobacco smoke.

Ira - tobacco and pot smoke are not alike and there has never been a reliable study to say that - or maybe you have studied you can cite that says so?
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Nov 10th, 2006, 07:00 AM
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I don't do pot (anymore) but what's with all this moralizing?

I must read 15 posts a day on Fodor's about people hinting they are hooked on alcohol in one form or another or are planning to go abroad to pig out on some very unhealthy food on a daily basis. And all they get is big 'ups' in response, not lectures about how revolting it is to others to see people laughing about two gelatos or two bottles of wine a day.

Chocolate, wine and many other ingestibles can be good for you or bad for you. Pot isn't any different.

This is just political.

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Nov 10th, 2006, 10:30 AM
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I'm a former smoker and my daughter is a non-smoker so we got hash bonbons from a shop called Chocolat Spuistraat 51. Then at toward the end of our meal had them, returned to the hotel, made it up the stairs and didn't leave again. LOL
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Nov 10th, 2006, 10:53 AM
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I meant it's called Chocolat, the address is 51 Spuistraat, Tel: 020-6226241
Open: Sun-Thu 11:00am - Midnight. Fri & Sat 11.am - 01.00pm.
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Nov 10th, 2006, 11:01 AM
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Nov 10th, 2006, 11:02 AM
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I thought I had heard it all until somebody blindly equates eating a big Mac to using drugs. Thanks for the laugh.
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Nov 10th, 2006, 11:08 AM
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really chomping down BigMacs is no doubt much more detrimental to one's health than even smoking cannabis is.
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Nov 10th, 2006, 11:47 AM
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What can I say? As an inveterate smoker I had decided that at my age (60+) I wasn't going to go into any of those coffee shops, would stick with cafes, real coffee and tobacco. . . now? After reading all this I am certainly tempted to try it one more time after more than 40 years without.

"Whatever will be, will be..."
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Nov 10th, 2006, 11:56 AM
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Everything in moderation, of course.

nessundorma is on the right track.
I'm always amazed at people who wouldn't dream of smoking pot take tons of prescription meds that they don't really need. Sleeping pills, pills for little aches and pains, pills for depression. Many times it seems what they need is a good diet and some exercise. Less big macs is always a good idea.

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Nov 10th, 2006, 01:57 PM
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Just a thought, but I would imagine that more people are killed or injuried after doing drugs than eating a big Mac.
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In answer to your original post, the Grey Area is a great place to procure the strongest sh** on the planet, but has zero ambiance. However, the owners are incredibly knowledgeable and love to talk shop, if in the right mood.

I liked the Paradox, a little coffeeshop deep in the Jordaan. Good mix of locals and tourists, and I believe they still have 5 Euro samples of just about everything they carry. The kindly bar/bud tender gave me a precis of stoner etiquette my first time there, and a real point he made was NOT smoking in places other than private homes and coffeeshops and as PalenqueBob points out, perhaps a park bench in an uncrowded area. It's just considered rude, so enjoy the coffeeshops and the environment they provide for your smoking pleasure.
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