"New SAT Won’t Include Obscure Vocabulary Words"
#63
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"I find that I sometimes use words that I can see not everyone in the room understands."
And it goes both ways. And if I remember, I try to look up the offending word, though sometimes its meaning can be gleaned from the context.
Reminds me of when Sally Struther's character on All in the Family started reading the dictionary.
And it goes both ways. And if I remember, I try to look up the offending word, though sometimes its meaning can be gleaned from the context.
Reminds me of when Sally Struther's character on All in the Family started reading the dictionary.
#64
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One may or may not agree with (or may argue the meaning of) Wittgenstein, "The limits of my language are the limits of my world." But I think it is safe to say that it is very, very valuable to be able to use words with precise shades of meaning and to use them appropriately. It's helpful to be able to process word meanings quickly since any job has its own jargon. (Quick, what profession would discuss botrytis, pavé, Williamsburg, and fixative in the same day, plus, say, dubonnet as an adjective?)
But I haven't seen that developed by "obscure" vocabulary. It's developed through reading, listening, conversation, observation: context. I don't think that learning or memorizing words in isolation is the most tremendously profitable use of time.
But I haven't seen that developed by "obscure" vocabulary. It's developed through reading, listening, conversation, observation: context. I don't think that learning or memorizing words in isolation is the most tremendously profitable use of time.
#66
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Latin helps enormously in acquisition of English vocab travelthrowup. Hi value or lo value, lol, you act as,tho fund of knowledge isn't at all important so I guess u r fine as long as you have Wikipedia at your fingertips lol! Yr attitude towards education akin to low level technician not professional. Course that may b your job is so apologies all round not critising your station just attitude. If latter product of former then further apologies as u obv can't rise above upbringing [but praps u could there if actually educated so praps there is a value eh?]
#67
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<i>Latin helps enormously in acquisition of English vocab</i>
If acquisition of vocabulary is your be all and end all, then knock yourself out. Out of curiosity, is Latin your first language? Because your English is pretty bad.
<i>Hi value or lo value, lol, you act as,tho fund of knowledge isn't at all important</i>
Spelling is important too.
<i>I guess u r fine as long as you have Wikipedia at your fingertips lol!</i>
Well-developed research skills are probably the single most important thing you can take from your education.
<i>Yr attitude towards education akin to low level technician not professional. Course that may b your job is so apologies all round not critising your station just attitude.</i>
Ha. I'm quite certain that I have a job that involves far more responsibility and which pays far more than yours. Don't worry about my "station".
<i>If latter product of former then further apologies as u obv can't rise above upbringing [but praps u could there if actually educated so praps there is a value eh?]</i>
For the record, I was an exceptional student. And I scored over 600 on the SAT verbal section when I took it in 7th grade. When I took it in high school, I scored over 700 on both the verbal and the math.
You seem to have some unresolved emotional issues. You should seek help with that. But focus on the spelling and learning to write coherently first.
If acquisition of vocabulary is your be all and end all, then knock yourself out. Out of curiosity, is Latin your first language? Because your English is pretty bad.
<i>Hi value or lo value, lol, you act as,tho fund of knowledge isn't at all important</i>
Spelling is important too.
<i>I guess u r fine as long as you have Wikipedia at your fingertips lol!</i>
Well-developed research skills are probably the single most important thing you can take from your education.
<i>Yr attitude towards education akin to low level technician not professional. Course that may b your job is so apologies all round not critising your station just attitude.</i>
Ha. I'm quite certain that I have a job that involves far more responsibility and which pays far more than yours. Don't worry about my "station".
<i>If latter product of former then further apologies as u obv can't rise above upbringing [but praps u could there if actually educated so praps there is a value eh?]</i>
For the record, I was an exceptional student. And I scored over 600 on the SAT verbal section when I took it in 7th grade. When I took it in high school, I scored over 700 on both the verbal and the math.
You seem to have some unresolved emotional issues. You should seek help with that. But focus on the spelling and learning to write coherently first.
#76
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Hey V,
>William F. Buckley must be rapidly revolving on an axis in his sepulcher.
Three obscure words, revolving, axis, sepulcher, in one sentence.
Bad boy.
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>Reminds me of when Sally Struther's character on All in the Family started reading the dictionary.<
Doesn't everyone do that in grade school?
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Hey V,
First car - age 16-17.
7th grade??????
>William F. Buckley must be rapidly revolving on an axis in his sepulcher.
Three obscure words, revolving, axis, sepulcher, in one sentence.
Bad boy.
..............................................
>Reminds me of when Sally Struther's character on All in the Family started reading the dictionary.<
Doesn't everyone do that in grade school?
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Hey V,
First car - age 16-17.
7th grade??????
#78
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Sorry - none of those word are "obscure". Anyone who reads at a 12th grade level should have no trouble with them.
I know a lot of people don;t read at that level - but that is NOT a good thing. And it doesn't make the word obscure.
One of my colleagues has a sweatshirt with the line
ESCHEW OBFUSCATION
which I grant is probably beyond 12th grade - but I think college students should understand. (Although most of them were probably never exposed to it by their English professors.
I know a lot of people don;t read at that level - but that is NOT a good thing. And it doesn't make the word obscure.
One of my colleagues has a sweatshirt with the line
ESCHEW OBFUSCATION
which I grant is probably beyond 12th grade - but I think college students should understand. (Although most of them were probably never exposed to it by their English professors.
#80
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Travelgormless, you sir r a hairless sheep. Jam betwixt an elephants toes. Streaky rashers gone green in t cupboard. It is not phony to give a fake apology when all r sposed to know it is fake. U r a daft bigger. Bigger. Bugger. Finally iPad learns to spell,!

