LSky

"for whatever reason they don't really want to accept the advice being offered.'

That's the puzzle, 20 people give someone reasonable advice and they say, "nope, we're determined to do it this way."

suze

The other problem they now have shared on their other thread is budget!! They are allowing only 42 euro per night for hotel per person and 28 euro per day for their entire food budget per person.

annhig

for whatever reason they don't really want to accept the advice being offered.'

That's the puzzle, 20 people give someone reasonable advice and they say, "nope, we're determined to do it this way.">>

I suspect that the fact that they are from Indonesia explains a lot. they are simply unable to imagine the problems and obstacles that await them, a bit like a european who's never been to the american continent being unable to imagine the distances involved. for example, on our first trip we walked off the plane in toronto, strapped our 1 year old into the car seat of our hire car, and drove out into an EIGHTEEN LANE HIGHWAY. we drove 4 hours up the side of Lake Ontario with jetlag. we just had no conception, when we booked it, how mad we were. it took us about 5 minutes to realise that we'd dropped a clanger, but we were committed [and ought to have been committed too].

sometimes, it is impossible to understand what mistakes we are making until we have made them.

franco

<That's the puzzle, 20 people give someone reasonable advice and they say, "nope, we're determined to do it this way.">

This might be comprehensible had the advice given been unsolicited. But the real puzzle is why they would even ask for advice if they are set on ignoring it.

jamikins

I'm just reading out of interest now...all posts urging changes are being ignored, so now I am just enjoying the post...

LSky

True enough, franco. Yet, it explains why people have to rubber neck at a traffic accident or people in horror movies still open the door when you're screaming, "don't go in there!!!"

annhig, we're trying to tell them about the 18 lane highway.

ellenem

The OP is not totally ignoring the suggestions. Take a look at the new thread with the new itinerary. All those night trains in a row have been eliminated. Most of the stops are for two or three nights—immensely better. However, the new addition to see Ireland and Scotland 2.5 days total is getting a lot of attention.

annhig

However, the new addition to see Ireland and Scotland 2.5 days total is getting a lot of attention.>>

not from me. I've given up. they finally listened to people about the night trains etc, but then they decided that they could see Ireland in a day and half, and walk on water between Ireland and Scotland.

they have to find their own 18 lane highway.

jamikins

ellenem - they are ignoring anyone that suggests changes to the crazy UK itinerary - read the other post - she is not responding to anyone that suggests its CRAZY!

Anyways, its their trip so they should spend it how they like to. I still find this whole post entertainig

LSky

"and walk on water between Ireland and Scotland.
they have to find their own 18 lane highway."

You have to admire this kind of optimism

UNCalum

Okay, now I'm confused. With a 42 Euro per person per night budget, how can they include the 510 Euro castle stay mentioned earlier? And, do all four plan to bunk together to save money--on a honeymoon? These folks are awfully naive to be mid-thirties. The poster acts more like an older teen, especially with the texting lingo she uses. Perhaps we should try to be patient, if possible. She really needs all the help she can get--even if she doesn't want it.

kfusto

I just booked my brother and SIL into Ashford Castle for one night and it was 375E. This is one hotel she mentions specifically, and which would eat up about a week's worth of the accommodation budget, which her husband is supposedly responsible for planning.

There have been lots of statements in direct conflict to others she made over the course of the threads.

And the honeymoon thing really has me wondering, hence my questioning whether any of it is legitimate.

I daresay that 4 people tied at the hip for 23 days of racing through Europe would experience a good bit of strain on their interpersonal relationships. I often plan trips and travel with friends to Europe but always leave lots of time for my husband and I to do our own thing as too much togetherness is not always a good thing.

Fashionista

Where is that thread about the Trafalgar itinerary - that should do the trick!

I cant believe a hoaxer would keep going for so long, but I do find the text speak a little disconcerting.

LSky

I already suggested that she read the Trafalgar itinerary.
http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...-tours-omg.cfm

It didn't help, I think all it did on her new thread was to get her hopes up about Ireland. Didn't read about the castle stay. Oh well, it's been amusing.

returntoyourseat

Me too jamekins.....I was on last night it was 73 post, so this morning I looked and holy cow....it is the weirdest thing. There may be a bit of yanking going on here. Personally I will check back and see because it is amusing at this point but I am not putting much thought into it now, they are on their own....

sap

Franco - I was thinking the same thing! Fodor's is even funnier than usual this morning. I think I'll need less coffee.

scatcat

If her budget for this trip works out for the OP, I want her to plan my next trip.

kfusto

<<If her budget for this trip works out for the OP, I want her to plan my next trip.>>

Doubtful she will admit it when/if it does not after all these posts.

SouthAmericanTravel

In my experience ...

If I visit a lot of museums, historical sites, outstanding restaurants or even new places back to back to back, it's as if my brain gets overwhelmed with so many new things at once and no longer see or experience all these amazing things with "fresh eyes." What would have normally been a once in a lifetime experience is now just part of a big blur of activity. It's almost as if I am just pushing through the days to keep on schedule and do everything on the itinerary.

In my travels, it's the unplanned, unexpected, last minute things that often create the most special memories. It was wandering around a small town, start a conversation with a local shop keeper and being invited to a family dinner. It was the conversations with complete strangers who took the time to tell me all the great little spots only the locals know about - the free concerts, the best coffee shops, the best place for a picnic - those types of things.

And most importantly, it's your honeymoon. What I mean by that is wedding planning and the wedding day is usually a bit stressful and can be exhausting. Take some time to relax, to do nothing and just enjoy being together.

That's my two cents. I wish you and your spouse much happiness and a wonderful honeymoon.

annhig

Beautifully put, SAT. one glorious year, we took our kids to Rome, florence and Venice, for separate weeks each time, each about 6 months apart. I can just about remember what I saw where, but at the time, when we left Rome, I was sated with art and culture. if we'd gone straight onto Florence, I'd have been completely confused. the brain needs time and space to absorb what it's seeing, especially when you're seeing things which are new.