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Jul 27th, 2010, 05:21 PM
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Meihan83 posted:
"We love sceneriess alott (we like photograhpy), never seen snow, n just want to enjoy Europe n get to see a lot of it (thats why i came out with itinery like that). Oh n we dont want too miss the iconic places too (like eifell, cologne cathedral, coloseum jungfrau, etc)"
"We love sceneriess alott (we like photograhpy), never seen snow, n just want to enjoy Europe n get to see a lot of it (thats why i came out with itinery like that). Oh n we dont want too miss the iconic places too (like eifell, cologne cathedral, coloseum jungfrau, etc)"
Jul 27th, 2010, 07:47 PM
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My mother always told me. . . My mother always told me. . .
Sorry! The problem is that I think I need a translator to help me n my husband n 2 friends. I'm feeling very old and I'm not even middle-aged.
Good luck, zeppole. I think you might have a real handle on this. You're the text whisperer.
Sorry! The problem is that I think I need a translator to help me n my husband n 2 friends. I'm feeling very old and I'm not even middle-aged.
Good luck, zeppole. I think you might have a real handle on this. You're the text whisperer.
Jul 27th, 2010, 11:05 PM
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Hi Guys.. me n my friends had replanned our itinery.. n we decided to extend our stay in europe for around 25 days.
i will post my new itinery soon. damn my laptop is crashing all my eurotrip data is there...
but basically its like this :
amsterdam - cologne(stop over only) - interlaken - venice - florence - rome - barcelona - paris - galway(ireland) - scotland - london - amsterdam.
I think this is our FIXED itinery as we ll agreed on it n i have shown my friend these post n told them that this might be too hectic, but they decided to go on with this itinery.
I m in charge of the transportation here so i really need advice on the trains connection.. in particular from cologne - interlaken.. (planning on taking the sleeper train) so we can arrive at interlaken in the morning. Whats the best option n where can i book for this train? thanks again in advance
i will post my new itinery soon. damn my laptop is crashing all my eurotrip data is there...
but basically its like this :
amsterdam - cologne(stop over only) - interlaken - venice - florence - rome - barcelona - paris - galway(ireland) - scotland - london - amsterdam.
I think this is our FIXED itinery as we ll agreed on it n i have shown my friend these post n told them that this might be too hectic, but they decided to go on with this itinery.
I m in charge of the transportation here so i really need advice on the trains connection.. in particular from cologne - interlaken.. (planning on taking the sleeper train) so we can arrive at interlaken in the morning. Whats the best option n where can i book for this train? thanks again in advance
Jul 27th, 2010, 11:23 PM
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I mean "has been removed from your itinerary."
It is becoming more and more difficult to find night trains since trains go a lot faster now. Cologne-Interlaken is probably not a big enough distance to have a night train.
It is becoming more and more difficult to find night trains since trains go a lot faster now. Cologne-Interlaken is probably not a big enough distance to have a night train.
Jul 27th, 2010, 11:32 PM
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mom23rugrats : yeah me n my hubby born in 83, my friend also 83 except her husband is 5 years older than us 
3Ses.. got that in mind mom!
Lsky : "What are you really interested in doing? What do you think of when you think of going to Europe?
Answer those questions, and we can help you"
you know for us having a trip like this is like a 20 years investment.. consider it like this : we ll not going back to europe till around year 2030.. after this trip we r settling down, having kids, take care of our business, a lot of things to do...
So yes, in this trip we want to see LOTS of Europe and have a fun n memorable journey, go to the iconic places take pictures n maybe we can tell our kids oh we ve been to eifell, oh thats picture of mom n dad at jung frau top of europe. yet we dont want to lose the adventurous facts of this road trip, chasing trains, got lost in the middle of nowhere --> thats the fun part isnt it, then we ll have a story to tell our families how "chaotic" our trip was ahah
Guess that ll describe what we want to get from this Europe trip
3Ses.. got that in mind mom!Lsky : "What are you really interested in doing? What do you think of when you think of going to Europe?
Answer those questions, and we can help you"
you know for us having a trip like this is like a 20 years investment.. consider it like this : we ll not going back to europe till around year 2030.. after this trip we r settling down, having kids, take care of our business, a lot of things to do...
So yes, in this trip we want to see LOTS of Europe and have a fun n memorable journey, go to the iconic places take pictures n maybe we can tell our kids oh we ve been to eifell, oh thats picture of mom n dad at jung frau top of europe. yet we dont want to lose the adventurous facts of this road trip, chasing trains, got lost in the middle of nowhere --> thats the fun part isnt it
, then we ll have a story to tell our families how "chaotic" our trip was ahahGuess that ll describe what we want to get from this Europe trip
Jul 27th, 2010, 11:39 PM
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kerouac : interlaken is in swtiz rite?
"Cologne-Interlaken is probably not a big enough distance to have a night train" oh really i ve read somewhere in the internet they said its 6-7 hours train ride? what i wonder here is, is there any direct night train from cologne to interlaken?
Peter_S_Aus : yeah we havent decided what to do in scotland, thats my husband's part, searching on what to do in each cities. on Ireland, we wanted to stay (for 1 night) on one of the castles, maybe Ashford castle.. is it worth it? its quite expensive..
"Cologne-Interlaken is probably not a big enough distance to have a night train" oh really i ve read somewhere in the internet they said its 6-7 hours train ride? what i wonder here is, is there any direct night train from cologne to interlaken?
Peter_S_Aus : yeah we havent decided what to do in scotland, thats my husband's part, searching on what to do in each cities. on Ireland, we wanted to stay (for 1 night) on one of the castles, maybe Ashford castle.. is it worth it? its quite expensive..
Jul 28th, 2010, 01:26 AM
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Cologne-Interlaken
Take night train to Zurich, departs around 11.30pm, arrives Zurich around 8.30am.
Take regular day train at 10am from there to Interlaken (at least 1 connection per hour, 2hrs travel time, one change required at Bern). The station in Bern is very close to the old town. You can walk there in 5-10 minutes and visit and take next train to Interlaken if you want.
You won't get that connection on bahn.com if you make a query Cologne-Interlaken. You have to make two seperate queries Cologne-Zurich, Zurich-Interlaken.
Paris-Galway
check whichbudget.com for low cost airlines
alternative: Paris (Beauvais) - Shannon (rental car Shannon-Galway -Ashford castle)
What to do in Ireland?
Depends on how many hours you plan to stay on the island.
If you plan wisely, you can on certain days catch a morning flight from Paris-Beauvais to Shannon.
You'll land around 10.30am.
Pick up luggage and rental car and be ready to drive away at 11am.
Drive from Shannon AP to Buratty Folk park (15min drive, almost next door to the airport, 1 hr visit plus 30min for lunch), next is Ennis (nice Irish small town, with a 8.5 on the quaintness scale; 30min drive, 30min visit), then to the stunning Cliffs of Moher (a certified Must-See, 30-45min drive, 30min visit), drive along the coast thru the Burren to Galway (be generous, allow 1hr for drive, many viewpoints). Visit the city center of Galway (30min and have early pub dinner). Drive to Galway airport, drop off rental car and take 7.40pm flight to Edinburgh / Scotland.
That's almost 8 full hours in Ireland, and you save the high costs for staying in the castle.
Take night train to Zurich, departs around 11.30pm, arrives Zurich around 8.30am.
Take regular day train at 10am from there to Interlaken (at least 1 connection per hour, 2hrs travel time, one change required at Bern). The station in Bern is very close to the old town. You can walk there in 5-10 minutes and visit and take next train to Interlaken if you want.
You won't get that connection on bahn.com if you make a query Cologne-Interlaken. You have to make two seperate queries Cologne-Zurich, Zurich-Interlaken.
Paris-Galway
check whichbudget.com for low cost airlines
alternative: Paris (Beauvais) - Shannon (rental car Shannon-Galway -Ashford castle)
What to do in Ireland?
Depends on how many hours you plan to stay on the island.
If you plan wisely, you can on certain days catch a morning flight from Paris-Beauvais to Shannon.
You'll land around 10.30am.
Pick up luggage and rental car and be ready to drive away at 11am.
Drive from Shannon AP to Buratty Folk park (15min drive, almost next door to the airport, 1 hr visit plus 30min for lunch), next is Ennis (nice Irish small town, with a 8.5 on the quaintness scale; 30min drive, 30min visit), then to the stunning Cliffs of Moher (a certified Must-See, 30-45min drive, 30min visit), drive along the coast thru the Burren to Galway (be generous, allow 1hr for drive, many viewpoints). Visit the city center of Galway (30min and have early pub dinner). Drive to Galway airport, drop off rental car and take 7.40pm flight to Edinburgh / Scotland.
That's almost 8 full hours in Ireland, and you save the high costs for staying in the castle.
Jul 28th, 2010, 01:54 AM
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cowboy1968 : thanks for the cologne interlaken insights..
in Ireland, we ll have 3 days.. planning to take morning flight to Ireland from paris, then yes rent a car, check in at Ashfrod, relax enjoying the castle, second day we ll have full day for day tours around the Island, then we ll leave for scotland on the third day in the morning
"you save the high costs for staying in the castle" is the castle not worth staying? I checked at the ashford's website theres a package for 1 night 510euro for 2 ppl incl breakfast n 1 table Dhot dinner in the restaurant.
We want to experience staying in the castle, like they said on the net "not everyday you can sleep n wake up in a castle"
in Ireland, we ll have 3 days.. planning to take morning flight to Ireland from paris, then yes rent a car, check in at Ashfrod, relax enjoying the castle, second day we ll have full day for day tours around the Island, then we ll leave for scotland on the third day in the morning
"you save the high costs for staying in the castle" is the castle not worth staying? I checked at the ashford's website theres a package for 1 night 510euro for 2 ppl incl breakfast n 1 table Dhot dinner in the restaurant.
We want to experience staying in the castle, like they said on the net "not everyday you can sleep n wake up in a castle"
Jul 28th, 2010, 02:33 AM
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I can promise you that this will not be your last trip to Europe, those grandparents will take care of the children at some point so you can get away again, and if you don't ever return it is still better to have quality of Europe instead of quantity. I think you would really enjoy Prague, most young people do. Paris, train to Zurich, Interlaken, Wengen, Lake Como, fly out of Milan to Prague, not spending much time in Milan, and end up in London. I guess if all else fails with your head spinning, throw darts.
Jul 28th, 2010, 03:14 AM
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"Please let us know is this itinery doable or its to hectic?? "
So you have added two days, another country and not cut out any others, despite the recommendations of 98& on this thread that say it is not only hectic, but will not really allow you to see anything but train stations.
"yet we dont want to lose the adventurous facts of this road trip, chasing trains, got lost in the middle of nowhere --> "
You will certainly be chasing trains but will not have time to "get lost in the middle of nowhere" as all of the places on your list are cities and you will be spending most of your time traveling, not experiencing anything much at all. It is anything but adventurous IMO. It is grueling and sounds like an expensive train wreck of a trip to me.
Your budget must be huge.
I hope your trip in 2030 allows you to actually visit Europe instead of doing a flyover.
So you have added two days, another country and not cut out any others, despite the recommendations of 98& on this thread that say it is not only hectic, but will not really allow you to see anything but train stations.
"yet we dont want to lose the adventurous facts of this road trip, chasing trains, got lost in the middle of nowhere --> "
You will certainly be chasing trains but will not have time to "get lost in the middle of nowhere" as all of the places on your list are cities and you will be spending most of your time traveling, not experiencing anything much at all. It is anything but adventurous IMO. It is grueling and sounds like an expensive train wreck of a trip to me.
Your budget must be huge.
I hope your trip in 2030 allows you to actually visit Europe instead of doing a flyover.
Jul 28th, 2010, 03:31 AM
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returntoyourseat : yes i know it wont be our last trip to europe but we wont be back there for quite a long time. i know prague is beautifull (well everywhere in Europe is beautifull) but decided to skip it. i wished i have 2 months time for this trip.
kfusto : yes i know i m going against all odds in this forum, but what else can i do? my friends agreed on the itinery n all i can do now is to plan the best for it..
kfusto : yes i know i m going against all odds in this forum, but what else can i do? my friends agreed on the itinery n all i can do now is to plan the best for it..
Jul 28th, 2010, 04:58 AM
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"yes i know i m going against all odds in this forum, but what else can i do? "
If your friends are not paying for your trip, then you can speak up and have a say in the itinerary and not let someone else dictate where you go and how much you are going to spend.
And, if it were my honeymoon, I certainly would not be leaving such a important trip up to someone else to decide.
If your friends are not paying for your trip, then you can speak up and have a say in the itinerary and not let someone else dictate where you go and how much you are going to spend.
And, if it were my honeymoon, I certainly would not be leaving such a important trip up to someone else to decide.
Jul 28th, 2010, 06:07 AM
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Two more cents re your itinerary for you to consider.
I strongly agree with the advice you have been given to cut back on the number of cities you plan to visit and the amount of travel versus leisure time because of the number of locations.
You won't be experiencing Europe if you continue with your preliminary plans. You'll, at best, get a glimpse of what you could be experiencing. And your glimpse will be others enjoying the experiences you could be enjoying if you were not dashing about. Do you enjoy watching other relax at a dining table, take a river cruise, or stroll leisurely through a beautiful setting? You won't be doing these things, you'll see others doing these things as you pass through your destinations.
Every time I have traveled I have wished for more time to relax, experience, and reflect on my experience.
In my opinion, you are embarking on a marathon.
But, it appears you can't be dissuaded from your plans, in light of your determination, and this statement:
"we ll not going back to europe till around year 2030.. after this trip we r settling down, having kids, take care of our business, a lot of things to do... "
It appears you are not only committed to this plan but you have planned your life through 2030, which frankly amazes me.
Over twenty-five years ago I honeymooned for 21 days in Greece, on the mainland and several islands. We took the time to book an exclusive seaside resort and, horrors, did nothing but relax and enjoy each other in one of the most beautiful places I have ever seen (perhaps it was the company!). I hadn't a clue what the next twenty years would bring.
It was an extraordinary trip and we have many memories of a special time in our lives.
We returned, worked at our careers, bought a home, started a family - just as you plan to do.
And, we never lost our interest in traveling. We began to travel with our three children, because traveling with them meshed with our goal of including them in all parts of our life and we wanted them to understand and experience the world around them, something I didn't have the opportunity to do as a child or adolescent.
Don't plan this trip making assumptions about the next twenty years. Plan this trip for now.
Finally, my apologies for rambling on - a gold star for anyone that makes their way through my comment.
Good luck (and slow down)!
I strongly agree with the advice you have been given to cut back on the number of cities you plan to visit and the amount of travel versus leisure time because of the number of locations.
You won't be experiencing Europe if you continue with your preliminary plans. You'll, at best, get a glimpse of what you could be experiencing. And your glimpse will be others enjoying the experiences you could be enjoying if you were not dashing about. Do you enjoy watching other relax at a dining table, take a river cruise, or stroll leisurely through a beautiful setting? You won't be doing these things, you'll see others doing these things as you pass through your destinations.
Every time I have traveled I have wished for more time to relax, experience, and reflect on my experience.
In my opinion, you are embarking on a marathon.
But, it appears you can't be dissuaded from your plans, in light of your determination, and this statement:
"we ll not going back to europe till around year 2030.. after this trip we r settling down, having kids, take care of our business, a lot of things to do... "
It appears you are not only committed to this plan but you have planned your life through 2030, which frankly amazes me.
Over twenty-five years ago I honeymooned for 21 days in Greece, on the mainland and several islands. We took the time to book an exclusive seaside resort and, horrors, did nothing but relax and enjoy each other in one of the most beautiful places I have ever seen (perhaps it was the company!). I hadn't a clue what the next twenty years would bring.
It was an extraordinary trip and we have many memories of a special time in our lives.
We returned, worked at our careers, bought a home, started a family - just as you plan to do.
And, we never lost our interest in traveling. We began to travel with our three children, because traveling with them meshed with our goal of including them in all parts of our life and we wanted them to understand and experience the world around them, something I didn't have the opportunity to do as a child or adolescent.
Don't plan this trip making assumptions about the next twenty years. Plan this trip for now.
Finally, my apologies for rambling on - a gold star for anyone that makes their way through my comment.
Good luck (and slow down)!
Jul 28th, 2010, 06:34 AM
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Well, okay then. You have a few more days than this tour would be, take a look at some "All of Europe tours" like this one and 3. http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...-tours-omg.cfm
I suppose it's just hard for some of us to fathom the idea of just having our picture taken in front of the Eiffel Tower and moving on.
Have a great time.
I suppose it's just hard for some of us to fathom the idea of just having our picture taken in front of the Eiffel Tower and moving on.
Have a great time.
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God Bless you! You sound young, enthusiastic and adventurous - so GO FOR IT ! You've got a group of like-minded friends,the time, the money, the energy and an impossibly CRAZY schedule..but it will be the experience of your lifetime. You can always adjust your itinerery on the fly. Take all these comments with 'a grain of salt' (Some of these people take themselves too seriously) and follow your heart. I envy you!
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kfusto : "not let someone else dictate where you go and how much you are going to spend." nobody is dictating anybody .. we all have a say in determining this itinery n we all agreed on it.
portiaperu : thanks for ur humble advice.. yes i think this would be more like a marathon tour trip rather than a relaxed honeymoon trip. its a bit sad but its ok i think we'll have fun.
Everyone thanks for your replies n comments
I was kinda hoping if this forum could help me with more info about train connections/booking from 1 city to another rather than "hushing" my itinery.. But its ok i can understand why everyone did so hehe.
Really need help with the train planning, if theres anyone in this forum would like to help me please email me [email protected] i would be really glad
oh n yes i ll report back how this trip went
portiaperu : thanks for ur humble advice.. yes i think this would be more like a marathon tour trip rather than a relaxed honeymoon trip. its a bit sad but its ok i think we'll have fun.
Everyone thanks for your replies n comments
I was kinda hoping if this forum could help me with more info about train connections/booking from 1 city to another rather than "hushing" my itinery.. But its ok i can understand why everyone did so hehe.
Really need help with the train planning, if theres anyone in this forum would like to help me please email me [email protected] i would be really glad
oh n yes i ll report back how this trip went
