Need advice on our current plans
#23

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"Prague, Vienna, Venice, Florence and Rome we will be leaving 9/4 and returning 9/19"
You arrive 9/5. 9/19 will be all about departing--no time to do anything.
14 days, 5 cities, 3 countries--
The same comments from before are true. Delete one more country if you want to remeber something besides modes of transportation.
You arrive 9/5. 9/19 will be all about departing--no time to do anything.
14 days, 5 cities, 3 countries--
The same comments from before are true. Delete one more country if you want to remeber something besides modes of transportation.
#26

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I'd probably start with Prague, then fly from there to Venice, then take the train to your last destinations. Sounds like you only want to visit cities, not the countryside.
If the air fares are better if you start with Rome, then do it in reverse order.
If the air fares are better if you start with Rome, then do it in reverse order.
#27

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Yes, I think Prague-Venice-Florence-Rome would be reasonable. A bit rushed for me, but you are not me. Also take into consideration that it your wife's first trip to Europe, so you have no idea how her body will deal with the time change--the first day may be a wash.
Here's a possible schedule that could adjust a day or two for specific destinations, depending on your interests. it also leaves room for a daytrip from any of theitalian cities if you feel you have seen enough within the city and want a taste of something else--without changing hotels or countries.
arrive 9/5 Prague
9/6 Prague
9/7 Prague
9/8 Prague to Venice
9/9 Venice
9/10 Venice
9/11 Venice to Florence
9/12 Florence
9/13 Florence
9/14 Florence to Rome
9/15 Rome
9/16 Rome
9/17 Rome
9/18 Rome
9/19 depart for home
Here's a possible schedule that could adjust a day or two for specific destinations, depending on your interests. it also leaves room for a daytrip from any of theitalian cities if you feel you have seen enough within the city and want a taste of something else--without changing hotels or countries.
arrive 9/5 Prague
9/6 Prague
9/7 Prague
9/8 Prague to Venice
9/9 Venice
9/10 Venice
9/11 Venice to Florence
9/12 Florence
9/13 Florence
9/14 Florence to Rome
9/15 Rome
9/16 Rome
9/17 Rome
9/18 Rome
9/19 depart for home
#30
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Do what Ellen said. Seriously it's a good plan.
Your original itinerary was not just "aggressive" it was barely do-able.
Are you serious about places to stay for 30-60 euros? THAT is going to be extremely difficult to find. Even a bed in a youth hostel typical would cost 30 euro, and that's per person.
Your original itinerary was not just "aggressive" it was barely do-able.
Are you serious about places to stay for 30-60 euros? THAT is going to be extremely difficult to find. Even a bed in a youth hostel typical would cost 30 euro, and that's per person.
#32

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#33
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Perhaps some more ingo on your budget (beyond airfare) and what accomodations you would like might help nail down the possibilities (or impossibilities). The temptation is always to want to 'do it all'. Experience says the 'some' is better than 'all'. IMHO travel is to "be" there, not "see" there.
If it wasn't September, I'd almost 'wing it' Pick a landing city and book 3 nights, pick departure city and book 3 nights and play it by ear from there. You like first city, stay longer...But I'll leave it to others to quantify the risks in that.
If it wasn't September, I'd almost 'wing it' Pick a landing city and book 3 nights, pick departure city and book 3 nights and play it by ear from there. You like first city, stay longer...But I'll leave it to others to quantify the risks in that.
#34
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First, a reality check. 30 euros will not get you a room anywehre - not will it pay for 2 beds in a hostel. Even 60 euros is an extremely small budget.
Second, by traveling all over hell and gone you will blow a major portion of your budget on train tickets.
Third, you don;t have enough time to see any of the places you will be in.
In 14 days you should have no more than 4 hotels (I would probably do 3 with days trips).
You need to do some research on:
lodging rates
train costs
time and distance between places
minimum time to see anything besides train stations
Second, by traveling all over hell and gone you will blow a major portion of your budget on train tickets.
Third, you don;t have enough time to see any of the places you will be in.
In 14 days you should have no more than 4 hotels (I would probably do 3 with days trips).
You need to do some research on:
lodging rates
train costs
time and distance between places
minimum time to see anything besides train stations
#35
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I don't mean to sound negative, but you really need to take a minute before you do anything else and get realistic about your lodging budget!!!
30-60 euro is NOT enough money for two people to stay in major cities of Europe like Prague, Venice, Rome. If you can't afford more than this, I would seriously reconsider the entire trip. It's just not really reasonable imo. Wait another year and save up some more money before you go. A 50 euro room is going to be a pretty scary place, if you can even find one.
I'm not extravagant by any means, but even for a very modest room or apartment you need to budget more like 75-95 euro per night. And that's NOT for anything fancy.
30-60 euro is NOT enough money for two people to stay in major cities of Europe like Prague, Venice, Rome. If you can't afford more than this, I would seriously reconsider the entire trip. It's just not really reasonable imo. Wait another year and save up some more money before you go. A 50 euro room is going to be a pretty scary place, if you can even find one.
I'm not extravagant by any means, but even for a very modest room or apartment you need to budget more like 75-95 euro per night. And that's NOT for anything fancy.
#38
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Current Plan 15 days
Rome 3 days > Civita 1 day
Civita > Assisi 1 day
Assisi > Siena 2 days
Siena > Florence 2 days
Florence > Vernazza 2 days (Cinque Terre)
Vernazza > Venice ( 2 days)
Venice > Milan ( 1.5 day)
The concern is the train time almost 20 hrs. Anyone have any suggestions.
Train Time Train Leave Arrive Place
1.5hrs 21740 , 10:44 11:48 ROME>Orvieto>CIVITA
2.5hrs 2310/3157 12:24 14:40 Orvieto > Assisi
4.5hrs 3162/2311/6880 13:18 17:52 Assisi>Siena
1.5hrs 11760 1118 12:50 Siena>Florence
2.5hrs 23355/24462 10:57 13:47 Florence>Vernazza
6.5hrs 24504/662/9727 10:27 16:58 Vernazza>Venice
2.5Hrs 9714 10:50 13:25 Venice>Milan
Rome 3 days > Civita 1 day
Civita > Assisi 1 day
Assisi > Siena 2 days
Siena > Florence 2 days
Florence > Vernazza 2 days (Cinque Terre)
Vernazza > Venice ( 2 days)
Venice > Milan ( 1.5 day)
The concern is the train time almost 20 hrs. Anyone have any suggestions.
Train Time Train Leave Arrive Place
1.5hrs 21740 , 10:44 11:48 ROME>Orvieto>CIVITA
2.5hrs 2310/3157 12:24 14:40 Orvieto > Assisi
4.5hrs 3162/2311/6880 13:18 17:52 Assisi>Siena
1.5hrs 11760 1118 12:50 Siena>Florence
2.5hrs 23355/24462 10:57 13:47 Florence>Vernazza
6.5hrs 24504/662/9727 10:27 16:58 Vernazza>Venice
2.5Hrs 9714 10:50 13:25 Venice>Milan
#39
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Everyone is different but for me personally that is too much. If I'm reading your itinerary correctly, you will be staying in 8 different places over a period of only two weeks.
I assume you're flying into Rome and out of Milan? And you have 14 nights?
If it were me, I would probably do this:
5 nights Rome (daytrip to Orvieto or Assisi)
4 nights Florence (daytrip to Siena)
3 or 4 nights Venice
2 or 1 nights Milan
This cuts out Vernazza though. If the Cinque Terre are really important than I would cut something else out- in this case Venice would make sense.
If you really want to stay in some of the smaller cities in Umbria and/or Tuscany, then I would stick to Rome/Umbra and Florence/Tuscany and cut out Vernazza, Venice, and Milan.
I know it can be hard to cut back on destinations, but there is so much to see in these places plus I'm sure you'll want some down time as well. Some people do prefer a busier travel pace though- maybe some will chime in with their thoughts.
I assume you're flying into Rome and out of Milan? And you have 14 nights?
If it were me, I would probably do this:
5 nights Rome (daytrip to Orvieto or Assisi)
4 nights Florence (daytrip to Siena)
3 or 4 nights Venice
2 or 1 nights Milan
This cuts out Vernazza though. If the Cinque Terre are really important than I would cut something else out- in this case Venice would make sense.
If you really want to stay in some of the smaller cities in Umbria and/or Tuscany, then I would stick to Rome/Umbra and Florence/Tuscany and cut out Vernazza, Venice, and Milan.
I know it can be hard to cut back on destinations, but there is so much to see in these places plus I'm sure you'll want some down time as well. Some people do prefer a busier travel pace though- maybe some will chime in with their thoughts.


