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Old Aug 21st, 2017, 05:40 PM
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Munich itinerary review

Hi,

I'll be in Munich this Saturday through next Thursday early am. I have a jam-packed itinerary and would love some review. Per other comments, I'm going to skip the Residenz. I need most help with my Sunday, as it's a lot to do in one day. Also, is there some sort of "Munich Card" that I should buy? I'm planning on walking most places, aside from Nympenburg.

Saturday:

S8 from airport to Munich Central Station then walk to Aloft. Likely arriving around 3 pm or so

Bus 17 (Amalienburstraube) to Schloss Nyphenburg then walk

Nymphenburg palace and some of the other palaces until 6, then walk around the park - Thoughts on how to prioritize my time here? I figure I can do as many palaces as possible until 6 and then the gardens afterward. Do I just buy tickets on the day?

Geisel vinotek at 8:15 pm

SUNDAY: Will this be complicated visiting Churches on a Sunday?

English Garden - I guess early? When does it open?

St Ludwig Church and Siegestor (Victory Gate)

Villa Stuck:

Walk by residenz and national theatres

Schmann lunch and bar?

a few churches and other things: Frauenkirke; Michaelkirke and New Town Hall and Marenplatz square.

Asamurke and Sendler Tor; Theatrekirke ?

Dinner: Hofbrauhaus? Somewhere else around there? Just planning to walk in - no reservation.

China Moon for a drink afterward

Can any churches be cut? I know I'm missing a lot of the big museums (history, BWM, etc, but I think I like this plan better)

MONDAY:
Leave 8:30 am but should arrive at 8 am. Taking Gray Line full day tour to Linderhof and Neuschwenstein.

Weinhaus Nuener 8 pm

TUESDAY:

Karolinenplatz square

Propylaen square

Antiques museum - open at 10 am

Glytothek

quick lunch? Recommendations?

Stadtische Galerie im Lenbachhaus - must do

Egyptian Museum = open until 8 pm

Have dinner reservations at Steinheil 16 at 8:15, but I'll be having a lot of heavy food and might consider somewhere else really close. Thoughts about Cafe Vorhoelzer forum or somewhere else?

Cafe Luitpold for dessert

WEDNESDAY:

Alte Pinakothek - 10 am

Pinakothek der moderne

Neue Pinatek - open until 8 pm. How much time do I need here? I love impressionism so this will be an important museum for me.

Dinner Sophia's 8:30 pm

I know it's a ton of museums those two days, but they are all close and I am maximizing my late nights. Is there some sort of "museum pass" or something I should consider? Or does ticket to one place get me in another?

Thanks, all!
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Old Aug 21st, 2017, 07:46 PM
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Given your apparent interests I would not skip the Rezidenz but to each their own.
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Old Aug 21st, 2017, 08:41 PM
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I don't know if I'd skip any churches- that was my favorite part of Munich- in a lot of ways they are more interesting than the museums themselves. Seeing them on Sunday isn't an issue, as long as you take note of service times.

I think your itinerary is a bit ambitious- I feel like it'll take you more time to see those museums than you think- and I agree with Dukey about Rezidenz. I'm a museum geek and I overlooked Residenz when planning, and I definitely regret that.


Hofbrauhaus is not the type of place you need reservations, so no worries there. It's one of those tourist traps that is justifiably popular- my roommate took me, I would have skipped it otherwise, and I had a blast.

I would personally skip the day trip to Ludwig's palaces, because you have so much you're interested in Munich itself but I understand that's a must see for a lot of people. But this is partly due to the fact that I was going in the winter and Linderhof gardens weren't really open- that was the main thing I was interested in so I skipped.

You probably already know, but bring cash. Few of the museums accept cards- none of the smaller, more interesting ones do. The only card I know of is just discounts. I don't think you'd get your money's worth, given your interests. I really didn't spend much in the way of entry fees in Munich.

I really like Deutsches Museum but perhaps it's only a can't miss if one is really into technology. Your focus seems to be more artistic.

Ugh. Curse you, you're making me want to go back to Munich, and I had myself talked into U.K. You'll have a fabulous time- it's an amazing city. Go into kirche alter Peter and give my regards to the lovely Munditia

http://www.atlasobscura.com/places/j...t-of-spinsters
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Old Aug 21st, 2017, 10:23 PM
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SATURDAY

You can take any S-Bahn leaving the airport station (S8 or S1). Travel time to central station is the same.
There have been construction closures on S1, but they should end the night before you go.
You can get the Airport City Day Pass which is also good for any travel in Munich that day in advance to print at home.
http://www.mvv-muenchen.de/en/ticket...ket/index.html
It costs just €1.60 more than the single ride from Munich Airport to the city.

Line 17 to Amalienburgstrasse is a TRAM, not a bus.
Due to construction works, it is merged with line 19. So you can catch any eastbound 19 at tram stop "Hauptbahnhof Süd", across from Aloft, which will switch to 17 as it goes around the central station.

The garden palaces at Nymphenburg are really tiny - the word "palace" is more a pet name than a true description. If you have enough time you can do the real main palace (which is also not that huge, more like a manor) - but to see the garden palaces you have to walk through the park anyway.
You can buy tickets on the spot - there won't be a queue.

SUNDAY

It won't be complicated to visit the churches - they are open all the time anyway. When there is a service going on, and there are usually two services in the AM hours on sundays, you can enter as you please but you are not supposed to walk around.

TUESDAY

You don't have that many options for a lunch in that area - if you want to stay close to the museums. Use Google maps and zoom in on Königsplatz to see the few options. For ease of planning, I'd eat at the Lenbachhaus' restaurant. It has a nice setting though I cannot comment on the food. But I guess it will do for a "quick lunch".

WEDNESDAY

You can visit ALL Pinakotheken plus the Galerie Brandhorst with a day pass for €12 you can buy at any of the Pinakotheken ticket counters.
Aside from that, there are the usual tourist passes like the Munich City Tour Card which also includes public transport.
You have to go thru the fineprint to see if it fits the sights and places you plan to visit
http://www.mvv-muenchen.de/en/ticket...ard/index.html
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Old Aug 21st, 2017, 10:27 PM
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P.S. Englischer Garten is always open.
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Old Aug 22nd, 2017, 02:23 AM
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I would do Augustiner over Hofbrau and no reservations are needed though they will seat you at a shared table which we enjoy. Enjoy the markets and there is an eataly there now.
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Old Aug 22nd, 2017, 10:51 AM
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Thanks, all. A couple comments and f/u:

1) Thanks for information about Nymphenburg and transport. I'll plan to go to main palace first and then other residual ones and then rest of the park at the end.
2) I do want to keep in the day trip, but I know there's a lot of Munich I want to see too.
3) Augustiner sounds great and I almost thought of this anyway, but this confirms it. Can I walk in, or do I need a reservation on a Sunday night?
4) I think eating lunch at museums both big museum days makes the most sense.
5) How should I focus on the three big museums Wednesday? I most like impressionism/19th century and a litle 18th and early 20th. I do want to do Neue last as it is open late, but how much time should I try to spend at each of the three?
6) Thoughts on dinner Tuesday? Steinhall isn't quite doing it for me anymore - I guess I want something a little lighter near the museums or on the way back to hotel.
7) I agree - I feel like I should do Residenz, but I'm not sure how. Can I squeeze this in on Sunday somehow? What churches should I most prioritize there?
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Old Aug 22nd, 2017, 12:30 PM
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Augustiner has three locations in Munich:

1. Augustiner Bräustuben, Landsberger Str. 19
Right within the complex of the brewery.
Almost always (too) crowded since some idiot put it on Lonely Planet ten years ago or so.

2. Zum Augustiner, Neuhauser Str. 27
The "downtown location". Sort of "okay" IMO, and larger than the Bräustuben.

3. Augustiner-Keller, Arnulfstr. 52
The best of all three locations - as it also has a big beer-garden but is still very close to the city center. And since it looks as if summer is coming back to Bavaria next weekend, you probably don't want to sit inside a dark pub when you can be outside under the chestnut trees.
Outside, tables with table clothes are served, the rest is self-service.
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Old Aug 22nd, 2017, 12:31 PM
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I think I was planning on the 3rd one right near my hotel. The outdoor space looks lovely and it seems like I can just walk in.
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Old Aug 22nd, 2017, 12:39 PM
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Yes, you just walk in.. no reservations required.
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There is seldom an art museum I don't want to visit, but when I need to prioritize, I do it on the basis of "what can I only see in here & not in any other city?" In Munich, the Lenbachaus & the Bavarian National Museum were truly rewarding in that regard. If you love impressionism it might be very illuminating to you to see Germany's contemporaneous art movements, including its native Impressionists in Lenbachhaus. You will need to pass through more than a few 18th c. galleries, but there is a big payoff.

I did have time to visit Munich's other "encyclopedic" art museums, with their lovely pan-European collections, but they didn't teach me as much. The Glyptothek & the surrounding complex was fantastic.

I'm a big naysayer on the Residenz except for its rather small Treasury & a peek at the emptied Antiquarium (everything went to the Glyptothek) . My recommendation is to see the Antiquarium & leave the minute you feel bored after that (it's an unvarying trek to get to the end) and dash off the to the Treasury instead.

If you end up cutting chuches, don't cut the Asamkirche
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Old Aug 22nd, 2017, 01:03 PM
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Very helpful. So I get the sense that Neue is more my style, modern might be too modern and alde might be too old, but I want to see some of all three. How much time should I allot across all 3? 4 in old, 2 in modern, 3 in neue? I just don't have a sense for how big these really are.
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Old Aug 22nd, 2017, 01:07 PM
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We really enjoyed our several meals at Peterhof, right on the Marienplatz. Great breads and house-made sauerkraut, and excellent sausages. I hope the restaurant is still there.
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Old Aug 24th, 2017, 07:18 PM
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Pretty sure the answer is yes, but just to confirm, On the DB trains to Salzburg, there would be a big luggage rack where I could store my medium suitcase that I checked into my transatlantic airplane, right? It's way bigger than a carry on but not a huge huge suitcase.
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Hi JoeTro,

That's a regional train, an alex, run by Länderbahn.

http://www.laenderbahn.com/alex

Regional trains don't have "big" luggage racks like the long-distance ICE and IC trains do, but there will be space for you and your bag. I take regional trains a lot, sometimes to get to Munich to start a long trip, and I never have any problem finding space for a bag. Lots of folks will have bags.

Scroll down a bit at this link to see the overhead luggage racks:

https://www.google.de/search?client=...h=582&dpr=1.09

Have fun as you plan!

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Old Aug 29th, 2017, 12:24 PM
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Trip going well so far. Have done nearly everything as planned with a few exceptions - haven't been to English Garden yet - might try to go super early Sunday before flight; did TUM rooftop for lunch because Mandarian Oriental bar was closed due to weather; skipped a couple of restaurants and did walkins as brenners at local hamburger place instead. Reservations at Geistel was good and Augustiner Keller was just so-so - did the one near Marienplatz.

Is it worth taking airport bus rather than S bahn on Sunday? Might be a little more convenient re not having to schlep bags. Also, when should I plan to arrive for a 12:20 departure with checking a bag to the US?
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I cannot see any advantage of the airport bus over the S-bahn (except it's prospects of being caught in a stau). The offiial suggestion of Munich airport is to arrive 3 hours prior to departure for US flights. I've got used to this rule and I do not think I'm wasting my time.
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> That's a regional train, an alex, run by Länderbahn.

@swandav: that one is a Meridian, run by Transdev. It's modern and has enough space for luggage.
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