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Old Apr 10th, 2007, 03:14 PM
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PalenQ,
If you're ever on the train from Rome to Naples keep your eyes open as you get near Naples. You'll see several farms with large herds of the water buffalo from which they make the mozzarella buffalo. They're big, ugly, and usually very muddy from the wallows they have for them.

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Old Apr 10th, 2007, 03:33 PM
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OOh Karouac, you're on a roll.

I'd like you, Flanner, Dukey, Robespierre and Ira to do a "discussion"...

I'll be glad to have one once Robespierre frees himself from all that Velcro he needed to keep his GPS-equipped laptop up on the dashboard!
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Old Apr 10th, 2007, 03:44 PM
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Think I'll try buffalo milk in my next cappuccino. LOL
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Old Apr 10th, 2007, 07:09 PM
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This reminds me of a rather funny personal experience I had in Rome. Decided to order two cafe lattes at the station. I walked up to the little bar and asked for "duo Lattes". This is perfectly acceptable in any coffee shop, cafe, restaurant etc in Australia to mean cafe latte, that is - coffee made with milk. I was fairly dismayed when I received two glasses of lovely (??) warm milk. I was way too embarassed to admit my mistake and my husband I had to endure two drinks that would have been better suited to you kiddies - we slept well though!! I reckon the baristas in Italy just get a good laugh out of giving plain milk to tourists when they do know what the really mean. Serves us all right - huh?
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Old Apr 10th, 2007, 07:25 PM
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are we the only country that has safe foods? Americanitis disease
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Old Apr 10th, 2007, 08:55 PM
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I lived in Rome for about 6 months and I drank the water, and the milk and ate everything. I never got sick at all from any of it. Everything is safe...
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Old Apr 10th, 2007, 08:57 PM
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Kerouac, you maketh me to crack up!
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Old Apr 10th, 2007, 09:04 PM
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Ok Ok, I know I just posted but I drank too much coffee (strong with LOTS of raw milk). So Ira, yer purty funny too. Is that you that's always naked in 3 words? First trip to France I had to dry my feet with the blow dryer on the wall after using the squat toilet. Almost fell over laughing so hard. Look out for the "toilets" and the crone at the door who won't let you in to the loo unless you pay her. Regards, BMK
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Old Apr 10th, 2007, 09:19 PM
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What cracks me up about questions like this one is if you read any on-line US newspapers, Americans are dying from e-coli contracted by eating who knows what in the mystery tacos at Taco Bell; tainted spinach that migrants workers contaminated with fecal matter; large meatpacking plants are being closed due to unsafe sanitary practices; dogs and cats are dying because pet food has been manufactured improperly. You never read that stuff about European food. Well, there's just the mad cow but they probably have that in the US too.
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Old Apr 10th, 2007, 09:54 PM
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A minor correction--the CDC's most recent reports cite animal (cows or wild pigs) contamination for the E. coli outbreak, not "migrant workers."

But point taken about food safety in US vs. Europe. Agribusiness has its disadvantages.

Still, the usual precautions apply. I spent a precious day in Rome in urgent care after consuming some mozzarella (in a cafe caprese salad) that had apparently been sitting around too long.
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Old Apr 10th, 2007, 10:36 PM
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And I spent a day at MGH's emergency room after eating a slice of pizza from a bakery in Boston's North End. Can happen anywhere.
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Old Apr 10th, 2007, 10:57 PM
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We still want to know where he got the idea that it isn't safe ...spill the beans!

Also, why just specifically in Cappuccino? Is he worried about other milk as well or does he think it's just cappuccino milk that is dangerous? Does he believe it is dangerous everywhere or just in the country you are visiting? Curious minds want to know.
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Old Apr 10th, 2007, 11:40 PM
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The milk is fine, but they dip the water to make coffee out of the sewers.
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Old Apr 10th, 2007, 11:43 PM
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It's the mad cow disease. It's got into everything. Don't even go near the gelati. It tastes like heaven but it will make you crazzzzzy for more.
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Old Apr 10th, 2007, 11:49 PM
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Ever read Fast Food Nation......how about food-safety in the US.....
Although I suspect that a lot of the practices described also happen in Europe in one way or another....
Something can happen to you wherever you are.

Btw; have checked the US-forum, have not yet found questions like these.....
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Old Apr 11th, 2007, 01:55 AM
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After my experience at a restaurant near me in N CA when I became quite ill for a few days (severly ill actually) and then read in the newspaper that the County Health Dept. had a huge warning about the restaurant I had eaten in and that something like 89 people at that point had Samonella poisoning and I consequently rushed to my doctor who had to get some certain meds for me from the Health Dept. which I had to take and in the meantime 3 elderly people died from the Samonella poisoning..well let me say that I am no more fearful of eating in Italy then I am in the US.
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Old Apr 11th, 2007, 02:05 AM
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Peggy, tell your husband to sleep late and the problem will be solved as nobody in Italy drinks cappuccinos after 11 am (except for gauche tourists like me, who don't have the stomach for straight espresso).
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Old Apr 11th, 2007, 02:41 AM
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Drink Espresso no milk required and you sleep better at night. You people are driving me crazy I'm only due in Italy next April and now once again I am having withdrawal symptoms!
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Old Apr 11th, 2007, 03:33 AM
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I think that it's the froth that's the problem.
Mad animals always foam at the mouth, so the milk in a cappuccino obviously comes from a mad cow.

If your husband asks for non-frothed milk, he should be fine.
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Old Apr 11th, 2007, 03:37 AM
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LOL Josser, finally we have a Fodorite with good sense! Why didn't anyone else think of that. So there you go Peggy..your husband can now relax. Well as long as he knows how to ask for "nonfrothed milk" in Italian of course.
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