xxx

I have nothing to add to this sad, sad post. I just wanted to be #100.

Gil

Well, with hope of being #101, honestly, I have to wonder about anyone airing such a personal subject on the internet (and I don't care if it is tangential to travel). Too weird. Now excuse me while I go puke -- after reading kalena's post.

kalena

Thanks a lot, Gil. You are a pal.

Desi

Nancy, I'm a relatively new poster here and have seen this post many times but only just now read it. <BR> <BR>Everyone seems to bring their own experience to their responses, so ... <BR> <BR>I remember just before I left my ex-husband (13 years ago) I went to the beach with a girlfriend - because he told me that he didn't want to go anywhere with me. Waking up the first morning there, I looked out and realized that there was this beautiful world out there that I had lost sight of in my misery. For me, the perspective it gave me helped me to see that the solution was to move on, a painful loss, but better than continuing a doomed marriage. <BR> <BR>On the other hand, our last trip together, which was very stormy, was to San Fransisco and Sonoma and, even though we barely made eye contact, I have vivid memories of the beauty of it. <BR> <BR>Best of luck in your journey. You sound like a great mother and a wise and thoughtful person, so I'm sure you will come out of this ok however things resolve themselves.

Desi

Nancy, <BR> <BR>Just to clarify, I don't believe in giving unsolicited advice, so I didn't mean to imply that you should give up on your marriage. But I do think that your trip and getting away from the routine of your life will help you obtain perspective on whatever you decide to do about your marriage. <BR> <BR>That's one of the great things about travel - realizing that there is a world of people out there who don't know you or your worries always helps me get some perspective on my life.

Nancy

I'm a different Nancy. Advice is almost always worth what you pay for it. My mother always declared that one should never buy from a rich salesman (beware of the Rolex and thick gold neckchain) and always hire the richest lawyer available (with a ridiculous track record). On the other hand, someone (can't remember who) said, "Advice is useless - Wise folks don't need it and fools don't heed it". I'm with those who've expressed that this is a Travel Forum. Gee, Nancy, if your best resources and "support" are from anonymous strangers on the www, one would wonder. Prayers and sympathy, or any of the suggestions and recommendations herein, will not improve your situation. Have they? First and foremost, you are a MOTHER, responsible for the quality of the lives and future of your precious children. If you're an emotional mess, they'll suffer for that. Not to mention that you are a grown woman and responsible for yourself and your own future and happiness. Not all problems can be resolved. So, you must learn to investigate all the alternatives. Regardless, unless you pull yourself up by your bootstraps and muster up all your internal resources on your own, you'll never be able to move forward. Circumstances present themselves and they may seem insurmountable. You can wallow or you can forge ahead - your choice.

nancy

This is going to be my last post to my thread.<BR>This thread is beginning to show sogns of deterioration, with rude comments,and unhelpful replies.<BR>That is *exactly* what I was/am trying to avoid.<BR>Desi, Kalena, Maira, and Lee, I sent you all direct thank yous, so not to top this post again, but some of them came back, undelivered.<BR>I just want you to know I appreciate your comments.<BR>and again, Thank EVERYONE who has giving me input / advice/ ideas to think about.<BR>Let's let this thread die, so feel free to E- me at home if you want to reply or advice or whatever.,<BR>(that is why I use my real address)<BR>But, if you are going to e- me rude things, think twice, cause they won't make a dent in my psyche.<BR>By the way, the weekend I posted this, my husband was curious about the time I spent on this site, so he logged on and read the thread!! <BR>thanks again, <BR>Nancy

Gil

Nancy in Vermont -<BR>You can't put the cat back in the bag. You started a thread on an internet forum with hope of replies, and now because you deem some of them unhelpful you decide to bail. How very convenient.<BR>What exactly did you expect when posing this to a group of total strangers? A love-fest? Good luck and think carefully before leaping next time.