London: "Bobbies"
Jan 1st, 2004 | 06:00 AM
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ira, your very quick response is correct!
Originally they were called 'peelers', a term of derision but later on people started referring to the policeman walking a beat as a 'bobby'. Today the term is no longer one of ridicule but one of affection, or at least respect.
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Originally they were called 'peelers', a term of derision but later on people started referring to the policeman walking a beat as a 'bobby'. Today the term is no longer one of ridicule but one of affection, or at least respect.
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Jan 1st, 2004 | 06:20 AM
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The Old Bill" or "The Bill" were also slang names for the police.
This is more than you might care to know, but here goes:
Over the years at least 13 different possibilities have been proposed, as follows:
"Old Bill" was King William IV, whose constables were an early form of police.
The play "The Custom of the Country" written by John Fletcher in 1619 has constables of the watch refer to themselves as 'us peacemakers and all our bill of authority'.
Constables of the watch were sometimes nicknamed for the bills, or billhooks they carried as weapons.
Kaiser Wilhelm I of Prussia visited England around the time in 1864 when the police uniform changed from top hat and swallowtail coat to helmet and tunic. Such 'Prussian militarism' may have led to the police being nicknamed after the first (and today less remembered) Kaiser Bill.
The 'old bill' was, in Victorian times, a bill presumed to be presented by the police for a bribe to persuade them to turn a blind eye to some nefarious activity.
New laws for the police to enforce all come from bills passed through Parliament
"Old Bill" might refer to Bill Bailey of the music hall song 'Won't You Come Home...?' used in conjunction with a pun on the Central Criminal Court at the Old Bailey.
In the 1860s there was a Sergeant Bill Smith in Limehouse. He was a popular character and people used to ask after 'Old Bill'.
Many police officers wore authoritarian-looking "Old Bill" moustaches like that adorning a famous W.W.1 cartoon character 'the wily old soldier in the trenches' by Bruce Bairnsfather.
In 1917 the government used Bairnsfather's character in posters and advertisements putting over wartime messages under the heading "Old Bill says...". For this campaign the character was dressed in a special constable's uniform.
The original vehicles used by the Flying Squad all had the registration letters BYL, so the squad became known as 'the Bill'.
The London County Council at one time registered all police, fire and ambulance vehicles with the letters BYL
According to old Etonian illegal gaming club organizer and author the late Robin Cook ('Derek Raymond'), 'old bill' is a racing term for an outsider or unknown quantity.
This is more than you might care to know, but here goes:
Over the years at least 13 different possibilities have been proposed, as follows:
"Old Bill" was King William IV, whose constables were an early form of police.
The play "The Custom of the Country" written by John Fletcher in 1619 has constables of the watch refer to themselves as 'us peacemakers and all our bill of authority'.
Constables of the watch were sometimes nicknamed for the bills, or billhooks they carried as weapons.
Kaiser Wilhelm I of Prussia visited England around the time in 1864 when the police uniform changed from top hat and swallowtail coat to helmet and tunic. Such 'Prussian militarism' may have led to the police being nicknamed after the first (and today less remembered) Kaiser Bill.
The 'old bill' was, in Victorian times, a bill presumed to be presented by the police for a bribe to persuade them to turn a blind eye to some nefarious activity.
New laws for the police to enforce all come from bills passed through Parliament
"Old Bill" might refer to Bill Bailey of the music hall song 'Won't You Come Home...?' used in conjunction with a pun on the Central Criminal Court at the Old Bailey.
In the 1860s there was a Sergeant Bill Smith in Limehouse. He was a popular character and people used to ask after 'Old Bill'.
Many police officers wore authoritarian-looking "Old Bill" moustaches like that adorning a famous W.W.1 cartoon character 'the wily old soldier in the trenches' by Bruce Bairnsfather.
In 1917 the government used Bairnsfather's character in posters and advertisements putting over wartime messages under the heading "Old Bill says...". For this campaign the character was dressed in a special constable's uniform.
The original vehicles used by the Flying Squad all had the registration letters BYL, so the squad became known as 'the Bill'.
The London County Council at one time registered all police, fire and ambulance vehicles with the letters BYL
According to old Etonian illegal gaming club organizer and author the late Robin Cook ('Derek Raymond'), 'old bill' is a racing term for an outsider or unknown quantity.
