Living in Portugal

Jan 16th, 2015, 05:24 AM
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There is a growing population of non-EU immigrants in Portugal (present company included ), here legally and long term on an elective basis, who either didn't receive or weren't dissuaded by such well-meaning advice and opinions as offered above.
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Jan 16th, 2015, 05:31 AM
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Immigration policy of most EU countries, esp the older EU members in Western Europe, runs something like this. First, they must conform to EU regulations about unfettered freedom of movement for EEA and Swiss citizens, and their immediate family members. Then they often have favourable treatment for those sharing their national or ethnic origin, like Iberoamericans for Spain and Brazilians and Mozambicans for Portugal (and to a lesser extent Commonwealth citizens for UK). Then there are others, non-EEA migrants including US citizens. The have their domestic rules for the immediate family members of their citizens, such as their spouse/partner and children, with varying conditions, such as minimum income levels, learning their language and restriction on what they can do like working. They are willing to allow foreign workforce needed by their industry, through work permits and sponsorship (perhaps the greatest portion of US migrants), without affecting the job prospects for their citizens. Those willing to invest significant capital into the country, like investors and entrepreneurs. And students for language learning or higher education, partly for the altruistic ground of helping the developing world but also for future investment and trade benefits. As signatories to UN charter, they will consider giving a safe haven for those fleeing genuine persecution. But everyone else they will rather not have, who won't make much of a contribution to local economy and will gain from free public services like policing, state education, roads and security. They are having to absorb unlimited number from within EU, and they certain don't want to encourage more from outside.
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Jan 16th, 2015, 06:01 AM
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"There is a growing population of non-EU immigrants in Portugal (present company included), here legally and long term on an elective basis, who either didn't receive or weren't dissuaded by such well-meaning advice and opinions as offered above."

Then tell the poster how.

Because there simply isn't a visa programme on record that would allow JasonDClark to migrate to Portugal with just a foreign pension.
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Jan 16th, 2015, 10:07 AM
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" I picked Portugal as I hear that more people speak English then most European countries"

Well apart from UK, Ireland, Denmark, Netherlands, where far more English is spoken

Some good tax avoiding ops in Portugal
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Jan 16th, 2015, 06:42 PM
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lmbo. I really think that some of you need to read reason's to obtain a Type I residency visa in Portugal. Here is the website.
I'm sure it might "baffle" some of you how I am 41 and retired at 35, and it might be an "uphill" battle to get a Type I residency visa from a foreign country, but its not unheard of. At no point has anyone really answered my question, thus the reason for laughing my butt off! I would expect this from blogger's of some lesser known sites, but fodors? Really? I like children, I really do, just didn't think that asking a simple question about Portugal would bring them all out of the woodwork! P.s. None of those English speaking countries fit the original question at all. If I were interested in some cold weather places, I would have said "Living in UK, Ireland, or anywhere else", just not Portugal. Feel free to look up forums for those countries and post USEFUL INFO there! Please, if you have USEFUL INFO, like Lisbon is terrific, there is a great little neighborhood, aka NAME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, and it has ........ That might be info that I would LOVE to hear. Not, hey, Ireland people speak English. OR I couldn't get a residency visa so you can't get one OR I always wanted to go to Asia so let me suggest that! lol Why is it so hard for bloggers to stick to topic? Simple pitch and catch people. Should not be so blatantly moronic!

And thanks for the couple of actual topic related comments. I do read them and appreciate them. Like to hear about your experiences luz_de_lisboa.
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Jan 16th, 2015, 08:47 PM
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Hi JasonDClark85295,

I'm retired military (retired at 45), and I live in Germany. Yes, it can be a matter of jumping through bureaucratic hoops to get a retirement visa, and, yes, it can certainly be done.

However, I think your biggest hurdle might be health insurance -- unless you are retired military. You say you were in the military, but you don't say if that's where you're receiving your retirement from. If so, then I guess you do have health insurance.

When I got my visa in Germany, I needed to show proof of my income and proof of my health insurance. The first visa was for one year, the second and third visas were for two years, and last year I got my five-year visa.

Good luck!

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Jan 17th, 2015, 03:21 AM
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The fact Portugal offer Type 1 residency visa doesn't mean it's easy to get or you qualify for it. Portugal, and Spain, only offer long-stay non-working visa to the genuine retired (above state retirement age, currently 65) or those with considerable assets (Portugal and Spain's golden visa requires buying a property worth at least 500,000 euro or 1 million euro deposited in a local bank account). Each Schengen country has its own rules and schemes, and some countries like France and Italy have fairly liberal rules but not Spain or Portugal.
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Jan 17th, 2015, 05:22 AM
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I still think, assuming you can get a visa, that before committing to the move, especially based on other peoples experience, you should take yourself over to Portugal and experience a winter there. Decide whether you can live with the weather in winter, and look at different areas for yourself, only you can decide whether Lisbon appeals more than say the Algarve, which incidentally is the area you are most likely to find English spoken due to the tourists and retired Europeans living there.
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Jan 17th, 2015, 08:18 AM
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You can say you are retired all you want. The authorities in Portugal won't consider a 41 yo man 'retired'.
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