Latin Mass in Lisbon
Jun 19th, 2011 | 01:23 PM
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It’s quite possible that there aren't any.
Latin Europe is generally uninterested in using the Latin language during mass: it's generally an Anglo-Saxon (but especially English) fad, and on an average Sunday you will find more Latin masses in London than in the whole of France or Spain.
The Lisbon diocesan mass list (http://www.patriarcado-lisboa.pt/sit...ont_=70&tem=61) shows nothing in Latin at all. The exoticness of the idea is clearly shown at http://institutogregorianodelisboa.b...de-lisboa.html, where using the version of the Mass we’ve almost continuously used in England since the seventh century seems as weird as flying to Mars. (Continuous here except for a short hiatus from 1540 to 1570: the Prods re-introduced it here in 1570 and have never stopped using it since. There were a few years in the 1960s when the Vatican stopped us from using it, but the Prods kept it going. Then we told the Vatican to mind its own business, and like all unaccountable bullies, it collapsed when stood up to.)
A local activist group (http://missatridentinaemportugal.blo...-lisboa-o.html) implies you can only hear Latin at Fatima, except for the odd formal concert in Lisbon.
However, the Church in "Catholic" Europe is simply hopeless (mainly because it's uninterested) in communicating anything to anyone. You sometimes find in Italy, when you visit the bigger churches, that there actually are some Latin masses, but they think it would be a mortal sin to tell the outside world about it. Lisbon Cathedral is stunningly beautiful: unsurprisingly, no one seems to be arsed erecting a website for it. So pop in and investigate carefully the notices around the cathedral entrance. Possibly hidden by the flyers for long-completed diocesan pilgrimages to Lourdes, you might find an up to date mass list.
Or not.
Latin Europe is generally uninterested in using the Latin language during mass: it's generally an Anglo-Saxon (but especially English) fad, and on an average Sunday you will find more Latin masses in London than in the whole of France or Spain.
The Lisbon diocesan mass list (http://www.patriarcado-lisboa.pt/sit...ont_=70&tem=61) shows nothing in Latin at all. The exoticness of the idea is clearly shown at http://institutogregorianodelisboa.b...de-lisboa.html, where using the version of the Mass we’ve almost continuously used in England since the seventh century seems as weird as flying to Mars. (Continuous here except for a short hiatus from 1540 to 1570: the Prods re-introduced it here in 1570 and have never stopped using it since. There were a few years in the 1960s when the Vatican stopped us from using it, but the Prods kept it going. Then we told the Vatican to mind its own business, and like all unaccountable bullies, it collapsed when stood up to.)
A local activist group (http://missatridentinaemportugal.blo...-lisboa-o.html) implies you can only hear Latin at Fatima, except for the odd formal concert in Lisbon.
However, the Church in "Catholic" Europe is simply hopeless (mainly because it's uninterested) in communicating anything to anyone. You sometimes find in Italy, when you visit the bigger churches, that there actually are some Latin masses, but they think it would be a mortal sin to tell the outside world about it. Lisbon Cathedral is stunningly beautiful: unsurprisingly, no one seems to be arsed erecting a website for it. So pop in and investigate carefully the notices around the cathedral entrance. Possibly hidden by the flyers for long-completed diocesan pilgrimages to Lourdes, you might find an up to date mass list.
Or not.
