Jungfraujoch - Why should we go or why should we not?
Mar 13th, 2015, 06:49 AM
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<<dugi - So was the Jungfraujoch worth it?>>
Yes it was and it looked like this!
https://images.search.yahoo.com/imag...&hsimp=yhs-001
Yes it was and it looked like this!
https://images.search.yahoo.com/imag...&hsimp=yhs-001
Mar 13th, 2015, 08:17 AM
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neckervd: "The particularity of Jungfraujoch is that it is considered as a bit of Canton Berne despite the fact that neither the railway station nor the restaurant or the Sphinx observatory are in the Canton of Berne."
That's really very interesting. I'm sure most people don't know that.
That's really very interesting. I'm sure most people don't know that.
Mar 13th, 2015, 08:33 AM
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Years ago we opted for the Schilthorn because much of the Jungfraujoch train is in the mountain and I'd rather see the three mountains than be in the fog on top of one.
The ride up the Schilthorn is spectacular and in a cable car. The view is also amazing. You're directly facing the Jungfrau.
The ride up the Schilthorn is spectacular and in a cable car. The view is also amazing. You're directly facing the Jungfrau.
Mar 13th, 2015, 11:59 AM
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Myer, It's funny but I was not impressed with Schiltorn mainly because it was just a view. I loved Schnigge Platte because there was so much land up there to walk around in plus the views. And the ride up was much more spectacular than the one to the Schiltorn. Amazing. Well, that's my opinion!
Mar 13th, 2015, 12:00 PM
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Myer, It's funny but I was not impressed with Schiltorn mainly because it was just a view. I loved Schnigge Platte because there was so much land up there to walk around in plus the views. And the ride up was much more spectacular than the one to the Schiltorn. Amazing. Well, that's my opinion!
Mar 13th, 2015, 01:35 PM
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I liked the Schilthorn and Piz Gloria - in part because I have seen the James Bond movie On Her Majesty's Secret Service so many times and much of it was shot here when Piz Gloria, the revolving restaurant was being constructed - but it also lacks the overhwelming crowds of the Jungfrau and has similar ice grottoes and a viewing platform (the heliocoptor landing place in the Bonds' film) that is really out in the middle of nowhere - so so remote.
Mar 14th, 2015, 01:40 AM
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If you liked Schynige Platte better than Schilthorn, then you should probably skip Jungfraujoch. Frankly, for me the highlight of the ride up to Jungfraujoch is the part Lauterbrunnen - Kleine Scheidegg. From there on it's mostly in the tunnel - no views, rather clautstrophic (with crowded cars in particular!) The ice grotto/sculptures are not more exciting than on Kleinmatterhorn or Titlis. And a walk on the glacier ... well, it's not more spectacular than on the other glaciers elsewhere. I liked the walk to Mönchsjoch hut, which has a spectacular setting, but it's quite long with about 2 hours round trip.
We did this in the spur of the moment on a glorious sunny day after the hike from Männlichen to Kleine Scheidegg, always the gorgeous view in front of us (Eiger, Mönch and Jungfrau mountains). It was still a bit cheaper back then (1998 if I recall correctly), inflation included, and I still think it was not worth the money. But in the end everyone must decide for their own.
We did this in the spur of the moment on a glorious sunny day after the hike from Männlichen to Kleine Scheidegg, always the gorgeous view in front of us (Eiger, Mönch and Jungfrau mountains). It was still a bit cheaper back then (1998 if I recall correctly), inflation included, and I still think it was not worth the money. But in the end everyone must decide for their own.
Mar 14th, 2015, 05:11 AM
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"I was not impressed with Schiltorn mainly because it was just a view. I loved Schnigge Platte because there was so much land up there to walk around in plus the views. And the ride up was much more spectacular than the one to the Schiltorn. Amazing. Well, that's my opinion!"
That's my opinion too!
May be you would be more impressed by places like
Gornergrat
Montenvers
Ni d'Aigle
Lake Emosson
Bernina Divolezza
Murtel - Fuorcla Surlej
etc.
BTW: Good hikers hike from Schilthorn to Rote Herd - Tellipass - Gspaltenhorn Hut or Griesalp.......
or just down to Murren.
That's my opinion too!
May be you would be more impressed by places like
Gornergrat
Montenvers
Ni d'Aigle
Lake Emosson
Bernina Divolezza
Murtel - Fuorcla Surlej
etc.
BTW: Good hikers hike from Schilthorn to Rote Herd - Tellipass - Gspaltenhorn Hut or Griesalp.......
or just down to Murren.
Mar 14th, 2015, 05:32 AM
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neckervd - We will be in Interlaken which is two hours from Zermatt by train and will definitely look into Gornergrat. We are not good hikers. Just casual ones.
Pal - We've seen that movie too and so yes, it's fun being up there when you know that's where it took place. But otherwise, not entranced.
Ingo - How long and difficult is the hike from Männlichen to Kleine Scheidegg?
BTW - Thank you for all your Dresden information. We loved Dresden. We were there last Feb. and it was actually in the 40s, which was warner than here in NYC.
Pal - We've seen that movie too and so yes, it's fun being up there when you know that's where it took place. But otherwise, not entranced.
Ingo - How long and difficult is the hike from Männlichen to Kleine Scheidegg?
BTW - Thank you for all your Dresden information. We loved Dresden. We were there last Feb. and it was actually in the 40s, which was warner than here in NYC.
Mar 14th, 2015, 06:54 AM
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Maennlichen - Kleine Scheidegg:
Large 5kms/3 miles long panoramic trail, all more or less at the same altitude. Very popular with Swiss families with kids, strollers, dogs, etc. as well as with elderly people with knee problems or so who are no longer able to do somewhat strenous hikes.
Large 5kms/3 miles long panoramic trail, all more or less at the same altitude. Very popular with Swiss families with kids, strollers, dogs, etc. as well as with elderly people with knee problems or so who are no longer able to do somewhat strenous hikes.
Mar 14th, 2015, 07:38 AM
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Yes that Ridge Walk Mannlichen- Kl. Scheidegg is the easiest and one of the most awesome in Switzerland! Take a gondola up to The Mannlichen from Wengen or Grindelwald and trains back down to either from Kl. Scheidegg.
Mar 14th, 2015, 08:30 AM
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Depends on how fast you walk of course - 3 miles on a flat trail could be two hours at a slow pace - quicker at a normal walking pace. It is slightly uphill from The Mannlichen to Kl. Scheidegg I believe.
Mar 14th, 2015, 08:55 AM
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indy_dad has an excellent description of the Walk Mannlichen- Kl. Scheidegg in his blog linked to his trip report. See day 3.
http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...e-oberland.cfm
http://ukfrey.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07...en-hiking.html
"Today was to be an easy day. We did the arguably most popular walk due to its high views/effort ratio and left the afternoon free for some, um, Extreme (for us) Sports.
We took the gondola from Wengen up to Mannlichen and then took the easy, slightly downhill, stroll (#33) to Kleine Scheidegg (much easier than walking up from Wengen!). From KS, we road down to Grindewald and then took the gondola up to First/Bort for some fun."
"The walk was easy and the views as promised. 3.3 miles, downhill as shown above, in about 90 minutes with plenty of photo stops. "
http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...e-oberland.cfm
http://ukfrey.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07...en-hiking.html
"Today was to be an easy day. We did the arguably most popular walk due to its high views/effort ratio and left the afternoon free for some, um, Extreme (for us) Sports.
We took the gondola from Wengen up to Mannlichen and then took the easy, slightly downhill, stroll (#33) to Kleine Scheidegg (much easier than walking up from Wengen!). From KS, we road down to Grindewald and then took the gondola up to First/Bort for some fun."
"The walk was easy and the views as promised. 3.3 miles, downhill as shown above, in about 90 minutes with plenty of photo stops. "
Mar 14th, 2015, 08:58 AM
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I'd say 2 hours is a good estimate (many photo stops). Unlike Pal believes, it is all in all slightly downhill from Männlichen to Kleine Scheidegg 
However, I would first make the short detour up to Männlichen summit for the best views before starting this hike. Adds maybe another 15 minutes plus time for taking photos/enjoying the views.
However, I would first make the short detour up to Männlichen summit for the best views before starting this hike. Adds maybe another 15 minutes plus time for taking photos/enjoying the views.
Mar 14th, 2015, 05:27 PM
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I went up to jungfraujoch my first trip to switz. and most of the time i was wishing i could get out and hike.
took me 30 years to get back to do the mannlichen - kleine scheidegg hike, and oh, was that lovely.
took me 30 years to get back to do the mannlichen - kleine scheidegg hike, and oh, was that lovely.
