Jacket/tie for dinner in France?
Jul 3rd, 2016, 08:50 AM
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Spring, summer, fall, my husband wears non-logoed polo shirts and cotton pants for travel. He usually brings Ecco leather shoes and nicer looking hiking shoes. That's pretty well it, and it's easy to fit into a carry on.
I once talked him into bringing a nice crisp Oxford cloth shirt, and it never left the suitcase. I also encouraged him, early on in our travels to bring a navy blazer to wear with dark jeans, like at home, but, really, it didn't make sense space wise.
He's always very well groomed, polo shirts clean and tucked in with a good leather belt, and we've never been refused entry, never even felt uncomfortable. He'll choose more conservative colours for an evening restaurant, rather than an orange or yellow golf shirt.
I once talked him into bringing a nice crisp Oxford cloth shirt, and it never left the suitcase. I also encouraged him, early on in our travels to bring a navy blazer to wear with dark jeans, like at home, but, really, it didn't make sense space wise.
He's always very well groomed, polo shirts clean and tucked in with a good leather belt, and we've never been refused entry, never even felt uncomfortable. He'll choose more conservative colours for an evening restaurant, rather than an orange or yellow golf shirt.
Jul 3rd, 2016, 09:32 AM
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I see all the no options for a sport coat but my husband likes to wear one on the plane(take it off & put it in the overhead while flying) for the pockets and for a jacket with a casual shirt & jeans if it's cooler at night.
Since we travel with a carry-on only this means that he doesn't have to pack it. As far as shoes----not shiny for sure but, as said above, Ecco leather shoes are comfortable & look good with anything.
Since we travel with a carry-on only this means that he doesn't have to pack it. As far as shoes----not shiny for sure but, as said above, Ecco leather shoes are comfortable & look good with anything.
Jul 3rd, 2016, 09:52 AM
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There really isn't a right or wrong on the jacket issue. For us, it just comes down to how often will something be worn. Space is too precious to be taken up by anything that doesn't work hard.
Having said that, I brought a leather jacket to Scotland this past May. It was either that or a down jacket that could fit into a small pocket. Obviously, the down jacket was way more space efficient, and would have layered so much easier, but I really wanted something a little dressier. Sometimes you just gotta be a little impractical!
Having said that, I brought a leather jacket to Scotland this past May. It was either that or a down jacket that could fit into a small pocket. Obviously, the down jacket was way more space efficient, and would have layered so much easier, but I really wanted something a little dressier. Sometimes you just gotta be a little impractical!
Jul 3rd, 2016, 10:53 AM
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If your husband normally wears a sports jacket, and likes wearing a sports jacket, that's obviously fine.
I myself wouldn't take a leather jacket on a trip. You can't wear it in the rain, it doesn't really keep you as warm as a windbreaker and a wool sweater (which can be worn separately as well), it's hell to pack, and I would probably spill something on it that would require an expensive cleaning when I get home.
In fact, a wind-and-rain-resistant jacket with a hood and a wool sweater are my standard outerwear in spring and autumn.
I myself wouldn't take a leather jacket on a trip. You can't wear it in the rain, it doesn't really keep you as warm as a windbreaker and a wool sweater (which can be worn separately as well), it's hell to pack, and I would probably spill something on it that would require an expensive cleaning when I get home.
In fact, a wind-and-rain-resistant jacket with a hood and a wool sweater are my standard outerwear in spring and autumn.
Jul 3rd, 2016, 11:47 AM
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blvience...lol. I wouldn't normally take a leather jacket either! I actually did bring a wind and rain resistant coat with hood, and a fleecy.
For some reason, on this trip, I really wanted something nicer. It actually earned its keep, but I doubt I'd do it again. ��
For some reason, on this trip, I really wanted something nicer. It actually earned its keep, but I doubt I'd do it again. ��
Jul 3rd, 2016, 12:42 PM
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Most people have no clue how to dress well. It's not like you're born knowing what to do.
Most people have no sense of style. If you have it, you tend to really stand out in a crowd. Acquiring style requires talent, and the talent needs to be nurtured. The vast majority of actresses in Hollywood have no sense of style. That's why many hire professional stylists when they walk a red carpet event.
If I'm dining at Lasserre or Ledoyen, you better believe I'm drop-dead gorgeous. And if the man I'm with looks like George Clooney, you better believe he dresses as well, too.
I wouldn't be caught dead in public with a man who didn't care about style. If I dated a guy who told me to "go by yourself" after I asked him to wear a Brioni suit and tie, I'd tell the guy to take a hike and never come back.
Some women are so afraid to be alone, they'll tolerate anyone for company.
Most people have no sense of style. If you have it, you tend to really stand out in a crowd. Acquiring style requires talent, and the talent needs to be nurtured. The vast majority of actresses in Hollywood have no sense of style. That's why many hire professional stylists when they walk a red carpet event.
If I'm dining at Lasserre or Ledoyen, you better believe I'm drop-dead gorgeous. And if the man I'm with looks like George Clooney, you better believe he dresses as well, too.
I wouldn't be caught dead in public with a man who didn't care about style. If I dated a guy who told me to "go by yourself" after I asked him to wear a Brioni suit and tie, I'd tell the guy to take a hike and never come back.
Some women are so afraid to be alone, they'll tolerate anyone for company.
Jul 4th, 2016, 06:20 AM
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<i><font color=#555555>"I have absolutely no desire to "stand out in a crowd"."</font></i>
Which kind of belies your prolific presence on crowded internet travel boards.
Yes, it's true, people can hide many things behind words written on the internet. Bad taste in clothing and a lack of style are just two examples. No one can see what you look like here. No one can clock your face, your hair, your weight, or the clothing you wear. It's so easy to give fashion advice to strangers when strangers can't see the source. No one without a sense of style wishes someone else to have it.
There are many different styles of "stand out in a crowd." An Audrey Hepburn style is not the same as a Kim Kardashian. The bottom line is: No matter what style you choose, any desire to make a claim to presence in public requires a high level of confidence. Confidence done well is impacting.
If you're the type who wishes to hide and remain invisible, then you're free to join the masses, because that's the category where most people live and feel comfortable.
On this board, some people choose to wear negativity as their fashion statement. And it's never attractive, no matter how hard they try.
Which kind of belies your prolific presence on crowded internet travel boards.
Yes, it's true, people can hide many things behind words written on the internet. Bad taste in clothing and a lack of style are just two examples. No one can see what you look like here. No one can clock your face, your hair, your weight, or the clothing you wear. It's so easy to give fashion advice to strangers when strangers can't see the source. No one without a sense of style wishes someone else to have it.
There are many different styles of "stand out in a crowd." An Audrey Hepburn style is not the same as a Kim Kardashian. The bottom line is: No matter what style you choose, any desire to make a claim to presence in public requires a high level of confidence. Confidence done well is impacting.
If you're the type who wishes to hide and remain invisible, then you're free to join the masses, because that's the category where most people live and feel comfortable.
On this board, some people choose to wear negativity as their fashion statement. And it's never attractive, no matter how hard they try.
Jul 4th, 2016, 06:30 AM
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When it comes to dress codes there is an interesting difference between the Anglo-Saxon world and continental Europe.
On the continent, you hardly find any dress codes - not in restaurants, not in theatres, not in ballrooms, practically nowhere (the only place in Europe where I found a dress code was most suspicious nightclub in Vienna).
In UK and US, you find dress codes everywhere: cruise ships have them (whereas even the German luxury ship "Europa 2" has omitted the dress code) and many restaurants.
We had once been in a 4-star hotel in England and they had a dress code for their restaurant, requiring a jacket, a collared shirt and "no jeans". Of course, we entered the restaurant wearing jeans, but in the usual continental fashion, together with shirt, jacket and decent shoes and we were happily accepted although we obviously violated the dress code. But the overall appearance was good and certainly better than that of some Brits in their ill-fitting brown suits with pink shirts and poorly bound ties.
However, if an Anglo-Saxon dress code says "casual" the result is often enough catastrophic - with people wearing beach clothes or other things like you find here: http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/
On the continent, you hardly find any dress codes - not in restaurants, not in theatres, not in ballrooms, practically nowhere (the only place in Europe where I found a dress code was most suspicious nightclub in Vienna).
In UK and US, you find dress codes everywhere: cruise ships have them (whereas even the German luxury ship "Europa 2" has omitted the dress code) and many restaurants.
We had once been in a 4-star hotel in England and they had a dress code for their restaurant, requiring a jacket, a collared shirt and "no jeans". Of course, we entered the restaurant wearing jeans, but in the usual continental fashion, together with shirt, jacket and decent shoes and we were happily accepted although we obviously violated the dress code. But the overall appearance was good and certainly better than that of some Brits in their ill-fitting brown suits with pink shirts and poorly bound ties.
However, if an Anglo-Saxon dress code says "casual" the result is often enough catastrophic - with people wearing beach clothes or other things like you find here: http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/
Jul 4th, 2016, 06:37 AM
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>>> No matter what style you choose, any desire to make a claim to presence in public requires a high level of confidence.
I find a little modesty goes a long way towards alleviating anxiety about standing out in society.
If I were Caesar, I might slip on a pair of red boots, but knowing I'm not, brown loafers will do.
I find a little modesty goes a long way towards alleviating anxiety about standing out in society.
If I were Caesar, I might slip on a pair of red boots, but knowing I'm not, brown loafers will do.
Jul 4th, 2016, 07:12 AM
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"some women are so afraid to be alone , they'll tolerate anyone for company"
Some women are so desperate to think of themselves as special they will cover their shell with glitter and date another shallow person ,just so they look like a matched set, even if they don't like each other. Now that's a definition of desperate to most folks.. lol
NYCFS I feel sorry for you.. most of us happily partnered people have learned a few decades ago that it DOES matter whats inside.. and that you can dress up a pig , but its still a pig.
Some women are so desperate to think of themselves as special they will cover their shell with glitter and date another shallow person ,just so they look like a matched set, even if they don't like each other. Now that's a definition of desperate to most folks.. lol
NYCFS I feel sorry for you.. most of us happily partnered people have learned a few decades ago that it DOES matter whats inside.. and that you can dress up a pig , but its still a pig.
Jul 4th, 2016, 07:31 AM
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<i><font color=#555555>"NYCFS I feel sorry for you"</font></i>
What an absolutely silly thing to say to a stranger. No matter what I write here, you don't know me. You've never met me. It just goes to show you take your investment in this travel board too seriously. Perhaps someone should feel sorry for you.
If calling a stranger a pig (or insinuating it) is your idea of "what matters on the inside," then I would say your inside is not very attractive.
(I happen to think some pigs are adorable, though.)
What an absolutely silly thing to say to a stranger. No matter what I write here, you don't know me. You've never met me. It just goes to show you take your investment in this travel board too seriously. Perhaps someone should feel sorry for you.
If calling a stranger a pig (or insinuating it) is your idea of "what matters on the inside," then I would say your inside is not very attractive.
(I happen to think some pigs are adorable, though.)
Jul 4th, 2016, 07:42 AM
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A friend I travel with always has a blazer/sports jacket with him. He usually wears it on the plane. I think it makes him look pulled together.
That said definitely don't bring the black dress shoes.
Since it's September I'm wondering about short vs long sleeved shirts, but because of temps not fashion.
That said definitely don't bring the black dress shoes.
Since it's September I'm wondering about short vs long sleeved shirts, but because of temps not fashion.
