Honeymoon in Europe :)?

Old Nov 2nd, 2015, 12:10 PM
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Is this what you were hinting at? http://www.amazon.com/Sof-Sole-Gel-B...ct_top?ie=UTF8
I might give these a shot, seems like a weird cure but what do I have to lose past 5$

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I definitely love to walk, my feet just hurt after about 4-5 miles and I don't want to be in constant pain. I'll deal with it if I have to, I was just mentioning what happens to me personally. My Fiance is a little different, yesterday she mentioned her heel hurt. Maybe there is a miracle cure for heel pain too
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Old Nov 2nd, 2015, 01:02 PM
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No, sorry, none of those gel things, totally useless, IMHO. You can get those at a drug store, so don't waste even $5.00. I will find a web site for some that may help.
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Looks like the insoles that helped me are discontinued. It has been a long time since I purchased any. Hard plated ones last a long time.

IME, gel provides some shock absorption, but is not firm enough to keep pressure off the bones that need it.

Look at myfootstep.com and read about their carbon graphite shoe plates. That is the kind of thing I am suggesting. If you do not need or want arch supports, get flat plates. If you are not having any heel problems, don't get any with heel cups or cushions underneath. You have to figure all that put. You can also call the company and see what they suggest. They are expensive, but a lot less than having some custom made, and IME, they were as good as some costing hundreds of dollars.

There are similar ones made by other companies. If you can possibly go to a store where you can get them fitted or you can return them if they do not work, that would be best.
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skipped through this pretty fast with all the foot talk but I would reconsider Venice. You are planning on three really major cities and I think a better plan is London...rail to Paris....fly to Venice and end there...by that time you will be getting tired of all the tourists and one church...monument etc. starts looking the same...the thing I love about Venice is first it is so romantic and unique and just being in Venice is really special...yes you can visit some of the major sites but maybe slow down and just enjoy the atmosphere. You are young...you will be back to Europe and Italy and Rome will be there...give yourself some time in each place. I bet when you look back at your honeymoon you will not remember the Tower of London but rather strolling the small canals of Venice.
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raincitygirl--thank you for the info on the Hotel de Varenne. It looked good online but I appreciate hearing from someone who has stayed there.

alphaOmega--yes I am getting exited for the trip. I love Paris and am looking forward to Christmas markets along the Rhine as well.

We eat well but simply in Europe. Memorable meals include a picnic in the park near the Marmottan in Paris, a family birthday dinner at Le Train Bleu and tea at Brown's Hotel some years ago, and a lovely dinner outdoor in Rome near the Colosseum at Chicco di Grano last year. Sometimes we will have a relaxing lunch at a nicer restaurant and a simple dinner of bread, cheese and fruit in a park or back in our room.
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alpha, to answer your question, we stayed nine days the first time and seven the second in Hotel de Varenne.
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Scootoir, I hope you enjoy it as much as we have. Enjoy your trip!
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Old Nov 4th, 2015, 08:33 AM
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It looks like the site isn't working anymore, eeek! http://www.myfootstep.com
I'll try googling for the carbon graphite shoe plates --Was it my foot shop!?


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I know I know, I wish we could go to Venice, I really have my heart set on seeing Rome though. It's really important to me to just take all of that in.

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Sounds very exciting. Christmas markets !!!Do picnics mean something different in Europe? A picnic to me is, we need to make a sandwich and bring snacks, do you go to the grocery store and buy all of this and make a picnic?!--or is it something else Sorry for the confusion

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Oh nice! I'm really pushing it then with only 4 nights it seems
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Picnics are the same, perhaps just a different approach to what food you bring! One of the best thing about cities like Paris and Rome are the bakeries, pastry shops, the outdoor markets, and the cheese shops that you can visit and eat so well.

You can collect items as you go or plan a route ahead of time one morning and get the 'ingredients' you need for your picnic. So you could make a sandwich of your own but visiting a boulangerie in Paris to pick up a baguette, get some cheese somewhere nearby, some cured meats, fruit, maybe a little chocolate (or fruit or nut) tarte from a patisserie and you have a marvelous picnic! Don't forget the wine if that's your thing

There are, of course, larger grocery stores that have these items all in one place so if you're looking for convenience then that will do just fine. It's definitely an experience worth having and you can pick a spot in a park near some glorious monument and have a really lovely memory of being in that city with your beloved.
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This is why, as I think someone may have mentioned above, bringing two sets of your own utensils is important. I have a small plastic case with two durable forks/knives/spoons and a corkscrew that come with me on every trip! Google 'travel utensil set' or something like that and you'll find something - they're more durable than the disposable plastic ones and you just clean them and go.
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Old Nov 4th, 2015, 12:14 PM
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Oh, that sounds very nice actually. It's a very good idea. I do like this a lot and will have to put it on the agenda. I forgot that it will be much different in Paris than here. I don't have any of these bakeries/meat places. Such a shame! But I'll enjoy it more over there.

I'll also look into sets of utensils. I did not think of that Thank you!
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I know, it's such a different environment coming from the modern American style of having everything in one place! Some can find it frustrating adapting to it if you're in a rush, but if you make a plan ahead of time and have a good mentality about it, it's definitely a wonderful cultural experience. And one you very well may miss when coming back to the US and trying to find a croissant as good as 'x' boulangerie.

Google things like 'best bakeries in Paris' and 'best cheese shops' in Paris and you'll get all sorts of recommendations. For cheese, I really like Androuet. They're all over the city and the oldest location is at 37 Rue de Verneuil. They'll cut and wrap the cheeses for you, giving you however much you want, and give you recommendations based on what you like (or recommend new things to try which I highly recommend!). I've bought bread from Eric Kayser and others - you could probably search Fodors and of course google to find any number of great recommendations.

And when push comes to shove, if you are walking down the street and see an interesting shop, stop there and check it out! A good combination of pre-planned possible locations to visit plus the magic of meandering can be a real winner.
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So sorry. I type it incorrectly. It is myfootshop.

As to picnics, last time we were in France, we found a bakery we loved about three blocks from our apartment. We stopped every morning for tarts to carry along, everything from eggplant to spinach and cheese to lemon-chocolate. On the way back in the evening, we carried fruit and cream tarts for late night snacks. That is the thing I miss most. Enjoy that great food while you can.
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Old Nov 5th, 2015, 10:30 AM
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I'm getting very excited with each and everything I hear about the places on our trip. I just can't wait. It's still so far away though! I'll have to look into the selection of cheeses and meats and my fiance in particular as she is picky about cheese. I love trying those dessert cheese trays but often only like around half of them haha.

I might go and read some trip reports or something. I used to do that for Las Vegas when I was just dying to go or go back

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No problem! I will definitely do my best to enjoy it as much as I can. Thanks again for all the foot advice
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Here's a very good hotel reference for Paris - I've stayed here several times, and can vouch for both excellent a/c as well as the full baths in each room. The room with exposed beams on the top floor was always our favorite.
You'll be in the geographical center of Paris, and it's easy to walk or take the Metro to get anywhere else. Lots of "traiteurs" and bakeries on Ile Saint Louis, so you can buy pate, cheese, bread, wine, etc and the hotel does not mind at all if you have a picnic in your room. Wine merchants will open your bottle for you, and you can pick up paper plates, etc in supermarkets.
After the shops close, you'll have the island pretty much to yourselves, and should take a romantic stroll along the sidewalks lining the river.
http://www.saintlouisenlisle.com/

As much as I like Venice, I agree that it's very frustrating trying to figure out how to get from A to B in that city, and probably not worth the trouble on this trip. Also, if you happen to be there during the "acqua alta" period, your trip could be a washout - literally.
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