We finally rec'd confirmation for our Scavi tour! We arrive in Rome on a Thursday in January, staying until Monday.

Our Scavi tour is set for Saturday, 9:15 am. I know the museums close at 1:45pm...winter hours...but what about St. Peter's and the Sistine Chapel???

We planned to take a guided tour of the Vatican, but I'm confused as to what we can see when. Could we do the museums AFTER the Scavi tour on Saturday? Or should we book the guided tour for Friday to cover St. Peters, the Chapel AND the museums---leaving just the Scavi tour for Saturday?

Can someone help me? I don't know why I'm having such a hard time figuring out the hours for the different Vatican sites.

I may have answered my own question.

Going through all the tour company sites, I find in January most of them don't even offer a Vatican tour on Friday or Saturday.

Context Rome looks like the best bet...they offer a Friday tour at 8:15 am. It appears to cover everything the Scavi tour doesn't. I really wish it started later (jet lag, ya know!).

Anyone know of another "good" tour that would fit into this schedule?

JeanneB, I'm glad you got your reservation for the Scavi tour! I remember you previous postings about it. I had that same 9:15 reservation on Sat. At first, I was disappointed that I couldn't get a tour on Sat, since the Vatican museums close early, as I thought it would be nice to do it while I was right there.

Icon Tours does have a tour at 12:15 or 12:30 on Friday. That's what I ended up taking, and I was glad to have done it on a separate day from the Scavi, as it turned out to be a long tour. It was scheduled for 2-1/2 hours but was MUCH longer, as the guide (who was excellent) gave an expanded description about the Sistine Chapel because the entire group was so interested in it.

These groups are bigger than Context Rome's, they can be 20-25 people, but they are also much cheaper (25E), and the guide made sure everyone was at each stop before starting his explanations, so I think everyone could hear him fine. I also did one with Icon of the Forum/Colosseum and had a similar experience. If you want the much smaller group, you would need to go with Context Rome.

OK, I just realized you're talking about January. I don't know if Icon Tours has fewer tours in January and doesn't do one on Friday. Good luck!

When I went I just picked up a tour from outside and it was fine, small group, English language only, knowledgeable guide. It lasted about 1.5 hours and then we just doubled back and wandered round by ourselves.

Re: the "pick up" guided tour.

Did this include St Peter's, Sistine Chapel, AND the museum(s)?? I'm thinking
this might be a good option since the crowds will be much smaller in January...we might have our pick of guides.

I never understand why people think they need a guided tour for St Peter's basilica or the Vatican museums. I recommend doing it on your own - a decent guidebook will give you all the information you need on the basilica and the museum galleries are quite well captioned. The museums (which include the Sistine Chapel as the last stop) are *very* extensive : I think a tour would be frustrating as it would be unlikely to fit in with your own tastes as to what you want to pass through quickly or what you want to examine in more detail.

If you go to the gift shop on the left side of St. Peter's Square (left, if you are facing the basilica), you can sign up for a tour given by young American priests studying in the Seminary there. They know the Vatican history really well and are very entertaining. They can also speak to some of the inner-workings at St. Peter's and obviously have an in-depth knowledge of the Roman Catholic Church. The tour is free and probably one of the best! I highly recommend it!

kateny:
That's very interesting. I've never heard of the priests' tours. Can one get a tour right then and there (assuming availability)? Or do they give you a time to come back? Is it best to arrive right at opening time?

Jeanne,

I wonder if you might want to visit the Vatican on two separate days? It's alot to absorb. The Sistine Chapel is part of the Vatican Museums, so maybe on Friday you might visit the museums (with our without a guide). Usually, the Sistine Chapel is the last thing you see in the museum, and then you can exit to St. Peter's Basilica. See it on your own, and decide if you want to book a more detailed tour for Saturday.

On Saturday, for the Scavi tour, be sure not to bring a back pack with you. They require that you check it, and they don't do so at the Scavi office.

Probably the best thing about booking a guide for the Vatican museum was not having to wait in the long line for tickets and having her "guide" me right past the extensive Egyptian and other collections that would have caused me to linger and not get through the museum in a timely manner

SusanEva

We actually just showed up in the afternoon after touring the Vatican Museum ourselves and it coincided perfectly with the 2:15 start time of the tour. I believe that they only have that one time, but it might have changed by now.

I was recently in Italy during the first two weeks of Nov. and did the context rome tour of the Vatican. It was wonderful and in my opinion worth the extra expense. Hope this helps.

If you time it right you don't need to queue for the Vatican museums.

How does one "time it right"? Should we be there right at opening?

I've walked straight in at lunchtime. (Found this with other popular tourist attractions too.)

I would play it safe and get there before the Museum opens. That way you can spend the morning exploring the museum, get some lunch afterwards, and then have plenty of time to explore St. Peter's, either on your own or as part of a guided tour.

If you decide not to go with a guided tour, the audio guides for the Vatican museums are excellent. They provide information on so many of the exhibits that it would take days to listen to all of it. It's in depth, at your own pace, and you can choose what you want to hear about and in what order. The tours by the priests sound interesting too.

kateny:

I agree. We'll try to get there at opening time.

But your post reminded me of one of my original questions:

Does the entire Vatican close at 1:45pm when they're on winter schedule?? Or is it just the museums? Is St. Peter's open later?

From their website:
St. Peter's Basilica is open daily, Apr-Sep 7:00-19:00; Oct-Mar 7:00-18:00

For the museum:
Hours - Closed on many holidays, check the Vatican Website
Mar-Oct 8:45-15:20, Exit 16:45 Saturdays 8:45 - 12:20 Exit 13:45
Nov-Feb 8:45 - 12:20, Exit 13:45
Closed Sundays, except the last Sunday of the month which is free.