Help with 2 Week October 2019 Itinerary to Italy
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Help with 2 Week October 2019 Itinerary to Italy
Hello! My husband and I are planning a 2 week (approximate) trip to Italy starting the second week of October. We are fortunate enough to be able to capitalize on Aeroplan and various hotel reward points as my husband travels frequently for work so we have some flexibility in some areas and less in others! (However, we will not restrict ourselves to points-only accommodation.) The plan so far is to fly into Rome and stay there for four nights. Following that we are planning to head to Florence for 3 nights. This is where I need some advice. It looks very inviting to drive (or take a train?) to the Cinque Terre region. I have found a hotel in Santa Margherita that looks quite lovely though I realize it is about an hour from CT but that area looks quite pretty as well. Would it be feasible to do day trips from that location or better to spend a night or two in one of the Cinque Terre towns? We could also stay somewhere in Tuscany (in addition to Florence and really get to know that region) and leave off Cinque Terre and the Italian Riviera altogether. We would be closer to Rome in order to fly back out. If we do head up towards Cinque Terre and that region, we may want connect through an airport there. We are open to renting a car or not... We really don’t like areas that are overrun with tourists (although some sights will always be busy) nor extreme heat so October seems a good time. Like so many, we love to explore and take our time. Love old churches and buildings, good food and beautiful gardens. Gardening is one of my passions. We are active but wouldn’t say we are fitness buffs. We do love to walk. This is our first time to Italy and we don’t want to bite off more than we can chew and realize we can always return to see what we missed. There is a lovely hotel we could stay in using points in the the town of Viareggio however from what I have seen online (besides the hotel) it doesn’t look like a town we would enjoy (though we could use as a base) - too commercialized. I could be wrong. We have just started to explore Europe. In Austria - I loved Vienna and there was so much to do however fell in love with Salzburg. Same thing in England - loved London but felt very happy in the small towns and villages in southern England. We used Porto for a base last year (also in October) and loved that town although it was a lot busier than I expected. Thanks for any and all suggestions, we have been given invaluable advice on this and Rick Steves travel blogs in the past.
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Mid-October is still very much high season in the usual tourist destinations in Italy. If you really do want to get away from crowds, you have to look into places that aren't the usual tourist destinations. However, I understand that for a first-timer to Italy it's hard to contemplate an itinerary that doesn't include some of them.
I'm not sure what suggestions you're asking for. Most of your decisions can only be made by you after weighing your interests and the pace and type of trip you want against your desire to avoid crowds (i.e., the choice between staying in SML or one of the CT towns, where to go in Tuscany). Tuscany requires research on your part to know which towns and/or scenery interests you. The region encompasses nearly 9000 square miles. Some people like to concentrate on a smaller area within Tuscany and explore at a leisurely pace, and others like to hit the popular sights, do a lot of driving, perhaps stay in 2-3 places, and still others will hit Lucca, San Gimignano and Siena and call it done.
FWIW, I think most gardens are past their prime in October. That doesn't mean you wouldn't enjoy visiting gardens in Rome and Florence, but I myself wouldn't structure any sightseeing plans around gardens at that time of year. Tivoli near Rome might be the one exception, but if you only have 3 days in Rome you may not have time for an excursion out of the city.
I'm not sure what suggestions you're asking for. Most of your decisions can only be made by you after weighing your interests and the pace and type of trip you want against your desire to avoid crowds (i.e., the choice between staying in SML or one of the CT towns, where to go in Tuscany). Tuscany requires research on your part to know which towns and/or scenery interests you. The region encompasses nearly 9000 square miles. Some people like to concentrate on a smaller area within Tuscany and explore at a leisurely pace, and others like to hit the popular sights, do a lot of driving, perhaps stay in 2-3 places, and still others will hit Lucca, San Gimignano and Siena and call it done.
FWIW, I think most gardens are past their prime in October. That doesn't mean you wouldn't enjoy visiting gardens in Rome and Florence, but I myself wouldn't structure any sightseeing plans around gardens at that time of year. Tivoli near Rome might be the one exception, but if you only have 3 days in Rome you may not have time for an excursion out of the city.
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I admire your enthusiasm! Since you seem to be wide open to any and all suggestions, and may or may not have a car, and realize that you can always return to Italy, my suggestion would be:
(Assuming you really have 12 days of actual sightseeing
Pick two places. Rome and Florence, perhaps. There are plenty of day trips to interesting towns from either of those, when you feel the need to go beyond the city. No car needed or advised.
Maybe Florence, and then Liguria. Again, plenty to do in surrounding towns to keep you busy, as your interests are wide. And a varying landscape for contrast.
Maybe combine Tuscany and Umbria, since you like smaller towns.
Only you can narrow it down, to suit your interests perfectly.
The problem with Italy there are so many choices!
BTW....many years ago, we drove from Florence to CT and back to Rome in one day! (Had an early morning flight) We wouldn't do that again, although we loved CT. It wasn't that crowded back then.
(Assuming you really have 12 days of actual sightseeing

Pick two places. Rome and Florence, perhaps. There are plenty of day trips to interesting towns from either of those, when you feel the need to go beyond the city. No car needed or advised.
Maybe Florence, and then Liguria. Again, plenty to do in surrounding towns to keep you busy, as your interests are wide. And a varying landscape for contrast.
Maybe combine Tuscany and Umbria, since you like smaller towns.
Only you can narrow it down, to suit your interests perfectly.
The problem with Italy there are so many choices!
BTW....many years ago, we drove from Florence to CT and back to Rome in one day! (Had an early morning flight) We wouldn't do that again, although we loved CT. It wasn't that crowded back then.
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Thank you both Jean and Calabria for your insights and advice. I have done more reading and research and it seems I may fall into that category of first time visitor who is trying to experience everything. We are now thinking perhaps of doing Rome-Florence-Venice and perhaps a day trip or two from these base points. We may not rent a car and travel by train. We can easily connect through Venice for our flight home. I did recently see a program dedicated to the gardens of Trivola and they were magnificent and not focused on flowers but more on water and architectural details. As mentioned, may be best to leave that for another visit as there will be so much to see in Rome. I think it may be best to return to Italy to experience a week in the Tuscan countryside and/or one by the coast. Can be quite stressful making a final decision when there is so much to offer. Good to know that one can drive from Florence to CT and back to Rome, that may have been something we would have attempted 20 years ago! Thanks again to you both, very much appreciated and will check back in to report back how it all unfolded. May have a question or two before then!
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>>>The plan so far is to fly into Rome and stay there for four nights. Following that we are planning to head to Florence for 3 nights.<<<
Depending on your flight decision, if you end up in and out of Rome, train to Florence upon arrival and end with your stay in Rome so you are better positioned to fly out. If Venice/Florence/Rome, fly into Venice and out of Rome because many flights out of Venice require trying to get water transportation at 4 or 5 am. Flying out of Rome, you can usually find later departing flights (at least for US).
Depending on your flight decision, if you end up in and out of Rome, train to Florence upon arrival and end with your stay in Rome so you are better positioned to fly out. If Venice/Florence/Rome, fly into Venice and out of Rome because many flights out of Venice require trying to get water transportation at 4 or 5 am. Flying out of Rome, you can usually find later departing flights (at least for US).
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That's a good plan. The reason so many people use that itinerary for a first time in Italy is that it's a good one! If you have 13 nights, 5 in Rome, 4 in Florence and 4 in Venice would be good. There is plenty in each of those places to keep you busy, but of course you could do a day trip if you like. No need for a car. Rome has Ostia Antica (easy to take the train) or Hadrian's Villa/Tivoli Gardens (there are bus tours that do these together). From Florence, to get a taste of Tuscany, you could take the bus to Siena for a day, or there are bus tours available that include a winery and cooking class.
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