Handicapped Placard for Rental Car
Jun 26th, 2010, 11:05 AM
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" The thread to which Adrienne refers has been out-of-date for some time "
Big Blue - you posted to the thread I reference within the last few days along with 4 other people. Are you stating that your information from June 24 and June 26 on that other thread is outdated? I don't understand your comment.
Please do not state that I gave someone a "warning" when I did not.
Plus...I topped a thread that was sinking to the bottom.
Big Blue - you posted to the thread I reference within the last few days along with 4 other people. Are you stating that your information from June 24 and June 26 on that other thread is outdated? I don't understand your comment.
Please do not state that I gave someone a "warning" when I did not.
Plus...I topped a thread that was sinking to the bottom.
Jun 26th, 2010, 01:43 PM
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adrienne, your posting to which I referred was to a thread begun in 2005. The additions made since that post have clarified the situation.
"Basically, the US tag is not officially honored and you park in handicapped spaces at the risk of being ticketed."
The above quote from your post sure sounds like a warning to me.
"Basically, the US tag is not officially honored and you park in handicapped spaces at the risk of being ticketed."
The above quote from your post sure sounds like a warning to me.
Jun 26th, 2010, 02:02 PM
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chartley, you baffle me. You've made an assertion that Brits would not understand certain terminology which I've shown you appears in the Oxford. Seems to me that is their lack, not the responsibility of visitors to find words which locals might understand.
"You really have to own local disabled badge to know all the different rules."
If anyone who is interested will go to the website I've provided they will see chapter and verse by country what rules apply where. That is the whole purpose of the agreement which was negotiated.
I'm surprised at your comment about people in Britain finding it to be poor manners to park in handicapped spots without proper authorization. I've spent far too much time in the UK and on the continent to realize how rampant and widespread such abuse can be. One difference in the US is that the authorities tend to put a big bite into the wallets of offenders. By "technical infringements" do you mean parking in a handicapped spot without a permit?
As to arguing about dictionary definitions and colloquial usage, why would I want to do that? All I did was take your words and tell you what the Oxford Dictionary says about them. Sort of reminds me of the time I used the dictionary to prove a point decisively and conclusively with my wife (a truly rare event) to which she replied, "Well, I don't agree with the dictionary." She had the good grace to smile when she said it.
"You really have to own local disabled badge to know all the different rules."
If anyone who is interested will go to the website I've provided they will see chapter and verse by country what rules apply where. That is the whole purpose of the agreement which was negotiated.
I'm surprised at your comment about people in Britain finding it to be poor manners to park in handicapped spots without proper authorization. I've spent far too much time in the UK and on the continent to realize how rampant and widespread such abuse can be. One difference in the US is that the authorities tend to put a big bite into the wallets of offenders. By "technical infringements" do you mean parking in a handicapped spot without a permit?
As to arguing about dictionary definitions and colloquial usage, why would I want to do that? All I did was take your words and tell you what the Oxford Dictionary says about them. Sort of reminds me of the time I used the dictionary to prove a point decisively and conclusively with my wife (a truly rare event) to which she replied, "Well, I don't agree with the dictionary." She had the good grace to smile when she said it.
Jun 26th, 2010, 02:36 PM
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BigBlue, I am sorry if I baffle you. I suppose I must bow to your superior knowledge of contemporary English usage in the U.K., and remind my fellow countrymen and countrywomen to always carry a copy of the OED with them to help them understand what overseas visitors may say.
I have just checked the OED, and find the following definition of "Placard":
"A formal licence giving authority or permission for something; a warrant, a permit, letters patent. letters of placard(s): a letter under seal. Also fig. Obs."
"Obs" mean obsolete. Certainly, the last quoted example of the use of the word with this meaning in the OED is 1726.
Another meaning for "placard" is given as:
"A notice or sign, printed or handwritten on one side and posted up on a wall, window, etc., or otherwise publicly displayed; (later also) a sign, usually on stiff card, carried during a demonstration.".
Interestingly, the quoted example is from 2003 and is as follows:
"Guest's Garage was also the alleged home base for the Klan security patrol, a group of four to six men, some of whom were known to drive about town with KKK placards fixed to the sides of their cars."
As for technical infringements, it is not a legal requirement in the U.K. to display a disabled badge to park in a disabled space in a supermarket car park, or in a private car park at an attraction, and the British police would laugh at you if you tried to call them to enforce such a rule. You could park there if you were clearly disabled but did not have a disabled badge, perhaps because your injury was very recent. Our countries are just different in such matters.
On a similar matter, I was surprised recently to read that "campus police" at a U.S. university had imposed a penalty on a driver for a "rolling stop" on a private university road. Even on a public road in the U.K., the police do not lurk looking for drivers doing "rolling stops", and the only reaction by a driver who was pulled over for such a trivial offence would be "You're having a laugh!"
I have just checked the OED, and find the following definition of "Placard":
"A formal licence giving authority or permission for something; a warrant, a permit, letters patent. letters of placard(s): a letter under seal. Also fig. Obs."
"Obs" mean obsolete. Certainly, the last quoted example of the use of the word with this meaning in the OED is 1726.
Another meaning for "placard" is given as:
"A notice or sign, printed or handwritten on one side and posted up on a wall, window, etc., or otherwise publicly displayed; (later also) a sign, usually on stiff card, carried during a demonstration.".
Interestingly, the quoted example is from 2003 and is as follows:
"Guest's Garage was also the alleged home base for the Klan security patrol, a group of four to six men, some of whom were known to drive about town with KKK placards fixed to the sides of their cars."
As for technical infringements, it is not a legal requirement in the U.K. to display a disabled badge to park in a disabled space in a supermarket car park, or in a private car park at an attraction, and the British police would laugh at you if you tried to call them to enforce such a rule. You could park there if you were clearly disabled but did not have a disabled badge, perhaps because your injury was very recent. Our countries are just different in such matters.
On a similar matter, I was surprised recently to read that "campus police" at a U.S. university had imposed a penalty on a driver for a "rolling stop" on a private university road. Even on a public road in the U.K., the police do not lurk looking for drivers doing "rolling stops", and the only reaction by a driver who was pulled over for such a trivial offence would be "You're having a laugh!"
Jun 27th, 2010, 06:52 AM
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Thank you so much, Big Blue and everyone else who was supportive, for the information about the handicapped PLACARD being honored (or honoured) in Ireland. I am afraid I opened a real kettle of proverbial worms with my question. I did not know that there are people who have so little to do, they spend their time picking apart what others have written on this Board.
In any event, we will enjoy Ireland more knowing that the EU honors (or is that honours?) handicapped placards (badges, cards, or whatever one might want to call them)!
In any event, we will enjoy Ireland more knowing that the EU honors (or is that honours?) handicapped placards (badges, cards, or whatever one might want to call them)!
