Gondoliers in Venice
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Gondoliers in Venice
Hello all. I will be embarking on my first trip to Italy at the end of this month and will have 2 days in Venice. I was hoping someone could speak from experience as to what is the best way to go about having that quintessential gondolier experience. I realise it's one of those super cliche, touristy things, but I'm hoping maybe there are particular ways to go about it to make it...slightly less hokey? xD I'm traveling solo, so not looking for the most romantic experience in the world, just a nice stroll amongst the canals. Are there certain tour operators or companies you can pre-book? Or do you just show up at certain spots and haggle a fare with one sort of like a taxi? If so, where is best and how do you avoid being overcharged/swindled? Thanks in advance!
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You cannot haggle, there is a standard fare of 80 euro for half an hour, and that is the fare per gondola, not per person. OK, pretty heavy for a single traveller, and it is more at evenings and nights.
But maybe if you ask around at a gondola station, and they are everywhere in Venice, you might find someone to share with and share the cost. A gondola can take six passengers.
But maybe if you ask around at a gondola station, and they are everywhere in Venice, you might find someone to share with and share the cost. A gondola can take six passengers.
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For a solo traveler a short (30-35 minutes) shared gondola ride will probably be the best option. something like this. https://italyxp.com/en/venice/things...la-ride-shared
Here is my entry from one of my trip reports a few years ago: >>Early on I had decided a gondola ride was silly -- first of all who wants to go on one solo, and they are expensive. But then I found a group ride for £25 through Venicelink. Figured it would be semi-lame but for only £25 I wouldn't be losing much more than half an hour of my time. Booked it for 5PM and it wasn't cheesy at all. There were 6 of us, two young couples and a nice middle aged man who the 'nose counter' (there were a total of 3 gondolas and 19 people) kept trying to put the two of us together. After both of us tried to explain things to the nose counter a couple of times I just turned to 'my companion' and "I guess we'll just have to be a couple for the next 30 minutes" and he said that was a fine idea
The entire ride was only 30 minutes but it was fun and long enough and scenic and a bargain. <<
Here is my entry from one of my trip reports a few years ago: >>Early on I had decided a gondola ride was silly -- first of all who wants to go on one solo, and they are expensive. But then I found a group ride for £25 through Venicelink. Figured it would be semi-lame but for only £25 I wouldn't be losing much more than half an hour of my time. Booked it for 5PM and it wasn't cheesy at all. There were 6 of us, two young couples and a nice middle aged man who the 'nose counter' (there were a total of 3 gondolas and 19 people) kept trying to put the two of us together. After both of us tried to explain things to the nose counter a couple of times I just turned to 'my companion' and "I guess we'll just have to be a couple for the next 30 minutes" and he said that was a fine idea

The entire ride was only 30 minutes but it was fun and long enough and scenic and a bargain. <<
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When I was there in July 2016 there were so many gondolas that they were literally touching. In previous visits, if I wanted to take a photograph of a scene with a gondola in it, I would have to wait a few minutes for one to come by. But then I had to wait several minutes for there to be 'only one' gondola rather than a stream of them looking like an amusement park ride.
When I was there in March 2017 it was somewhat less bad. So maybe late April won't be that bad.
And yes, cell phone in one hand, cigarette in mouth, oar in other hand.
When I was there in March 2017 it was somewhat less bad. So maybe late April won't be that bad.
And yes, cell phone in one hand, cigarette in mouth, oar in other hand.
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Thanks for all the responses. I'm sort of getting the impression that it's kind of a lackluster experience in the grand scheme of things. Maybe I will just forego it. Gives me more time to get lost in the winding streets which I'm more interested in anyway ^_^
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I would not be comfortable doing this at all. Especially solo! I have only observed them but seems like it would be truly awkward and a weird thing to do alone.
You can ride the #1 vaporetto line along the Grand Canal for your canal experience (you don't have to forego it entirely, just the gondola part!)
You can ride the #1 vaporetto line along the Grand Canal for your canal experience (you don't have to forego it entirely, just the gondola part!)
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My experience was not at all awkward -- I rode plenty of vaproetto. The gondola was completely different. And it was fun actually. We didn't go down the Grand Canal except just where we boarded from one of the docks just west of San Marco. We went through several of the small canals before returning to the stating point.
When I said the 'nose counter' tried to put us together -- it was simply because we were sitting next to each other on the bench while waiting to be assigned to a gondola. It was a reasonable assumption that we were a 'couple'. There were six of us - another gondola had a family with children, and one had a group of 6 women that I think was a hen party.
When I said the 'nose counter' tried to put us together -- it was simply because we were sitting next to each other on the bench while waiting to be assigned to a gondola. It was a reasonable assumption that we were a 'couple'. There were six of us - another gondola had a family with children, and one had a group of 6 women that I think was a hen party.
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throwing something else out there... what about learning to row ?
https://rowvenice.org/
We did this and it was a lot of fun! We were a group of 4, so was easier from a 'group' standpoint, but off the beaten track for you -
https://rowvenice.org/
We did this and it was a lot of fun! We were a group of 4, so was easier from a 'group' standpoint, but off the beaten track for you -
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throwing something else out there... what about learning to row ?
https://rowvenice.org/
We did this and it was a lot of fun! We were a group of 4, so was easier from a 'group' standpoint, but off the beaten track for you -
https://rowvenice.org/
We did this and it was a lot of fun! We were a group of 4, so was easier from a 'group' standpoint, but off the beaten track for you -
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Interesting posts, Fodorites. We will be returning to Venice for our third visit, and hope it'll be our first gondola ride. According to Rick Steves, you should negotiate the price, but perhaps his show has been outdated re the standard fare of 80E. I would think a half-hour would be plenty, and I sure would not want to stay on the Grand Canal, but want to go to the little ones here, there and everywhere. Yes, we'd considering splitting with another couple but really do not wish to chat -- we want to absorb every detail that the ride shall reveal.
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Of course you can negotiate a price, but if you are 2 people or 1 person going within prime time hours in peak tourist season, the law of supply and demand will apply.
For centuries the upper classes who visited or lived in Venice floated around on gondolas as their way of dominating the city. Much of the architecture and decoration of Venice was constructed knowing it would be viewed at water level. And much of the history and politics of Venice was negotiated during gondola rides, when powerful people wanted to have private conversations, or to get away from the sweltering heat or damp chill of indoor palazzi or narrow alleyways, catching a fresh breeze (or making a breeze) with their gondola. An astonishing number of world class artists whose work changed a great many things took gondola rides that made a profound impression of them. Maybe you'd like to see what they saw. Venice in many ways hasn't changed and you can still see that.
Things get commercialized for tourism in this day and age, so gondola rides are commercialized too. But what are you going to Venice for? To shop? Take pictures? Visit musuem or the palaces of the rich? Or do you want to encounter the unique history of Venice as compared to the rest of Italy and most of western Europe -- since you can go loads of other places to get lost in alleys, shop and eat.
I'm not sure if I'll ever get back to Venice, but if I do, I seriously think I might drop more than a hundred dollars on asking a gondolier to take me (and anybody with me) to their favorite waterways of Venice. Maybe it will be one hour, or 90 minutes -- maybe more! -- and it will cost a pretty penny, but eating a not-so-great-restaurant meal in Venice costs a pretty penny -- and I probably won't learn as much or care as much as I would floating around Venice in the way people who really understood or still understand Venice float around in Venice.
I'd rather get the view of Venice that the gondoliers do than the cruise ships do.
For centuries the upper classes who visited or lived in Venice floated around on gondolas as their way of dominating the city. Much of the architecture and decoration of Venice was constructed knowing it would be viewed at water level. And much of the history and politics of Venice was negotiated during gondola rides, when powerful people wanted to have private conversations, or to get away from the sweltering heat or damp chill of indoor palazzi or narrow alleyways, catching a fresh breeze (or making a breeze) with their gondola. An astonishing number of world class artists whose work changed a great many things took gondola rides that made a profound impression of them. Maybe you'd like to see what they saw. Venice in many ways hasn't changed and you can still see that.
Things get commercialized for tourism in this day and age, so gondola rides are commercialized too. But what are you going to Venice for? To shop? Take pictures? Visit musuem or the palaces of the rich? Or do you want to encounter the unique history of Venice as compared to the rest of Italy and most of western Europe -- since you can go loads of other places to get lost in alleys, shop and eat.
I'm not sure if I'll ever get back to Venice, but if I do, I seriously think I might drop more than a hundred dollars on asking a gondolier to take me (and anybody with me) to their favorite waterways of Venice. Maybe it will be one hour, or 90 minutes -- maybe more! -- and it will cost a pretty penny, but eating a not-so-great-restaurant meal in Venice costs a pretty penny -- and I probably won't learn as much or care as much as I would floating around Venice in the way people who really understood or still understand Venice float around in Venice.
I'd rather get the view of Venice that the gondoliers do than the cruise ships do.
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I think the key is get off the grand canal onto some of the little back ways. And go after dark! There are plenty of goldoliers who are looking for customers in places other than the Rialto. To forego a gondola ride after paying all the money one pays to get to Venice seems silly to me.
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