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Old Jul 15th, 2008 | 01:36 PM
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I looked at the manuscript at the Library of Congress. The line reads

<i>Then conquer we must <b>when</b> our cause it is just...</i>

So Dr. Asimov (whose text I copy/pasted) didn't do a rigorous job at all.

http://memory.loc.gov/diglib/ihas/lo...rom=pageturner
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Old Jul 15th, 2008 | 01:41 PM
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I sang it at the beginning of our Municipal Opera the other day, and did just fine. Luckily there were the other thousands of people in the audience singing, to cover any flaws in my technique.
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Old Jul 15th, 2008 | 01:44 PM
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kerouac, that sounds fine to me. Can we keep the melody, though?
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Old Jul 16th, 2008 | 07:12 AM
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Hi Stu,

&gt;U.S. Department of Homeland Security...the only governmental organization headed by a cadaver.

Are you sure about that?
..................................
K says,

&gt;I would not at all be against shelving it and composing a totally new anthem for the 21st century ...&lt;

Sorry, my French isn't good enough to do it properly, but how about:

Allons enfants de la E Union
Le jour de m&eacute;diocrit&eacute; est pr&egrave;s de;
Contre nous les capitalistes
Vouloir une semaine de quarante-heure
Entendezvous, dans les banlieus,
Mugir ces foules de rue?
Nous voulons une semaine de trente-heure
Nous voulons des vacances plus longues.

Aux armes, citoyens!
Formez vos bataillons!
Marchons, marchons!
Nous voulons salaires du quatorze mois.

















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Old Jul 16th, 2008 | 07:37 AM
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&gt;U.S. Department of Homeland Security...the only governmental organization headed by a cadaver.

Are you sure about that?&lt;&lt;&lt;

Now that you mention it, it seems that there are several who may not have the cadaver look as our esteemed Head of Homeland Security has..but they certainly have other &quot;corpse-y features&quot;...like no working brain!
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Old Jul 16th, 2008 | 08:03 AM
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ira wrote: &quot;It's the music that is so stirring.&quot;

The music was composed by an Italian.

While the sentiments of the lyrics are a bit bloody, I think their sound sits well with the melody.
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Old Jul 16th, 2008 | 10:35 AM
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Hi P,

&gt;The music was composed by an Italian.&lt;

Hector Berlioz was Italian?

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Old Jul 16th, 2008 | 11:31 AM
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What does Berlioz have to do with the Marseillaise?

It was composed by Claude Joseph Rouget de l'Isle
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Old Jul 16th, 2008 | 12:18 PM
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Hi K,

&gt;What does Berlioz have to do with the Marseillaise?

He wrote the music that one hears today.

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Old Jul 16th, 2008 | 12:32 PM
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That should teach me not to trust a Frenchwoman! She was on radio in Ireland for Bastille day, and told the people of Ireland that the music was Italian. I presume, after a quick exploration in Wikipedia, that she was referring to Giuseppe Cambini -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Marseillaise
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Old Jul 16th, 2008 | 08:51 PM
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Berlioz did not compose the Marseillaise. He wrote the arrangements for it.
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Old Jul 17th, 2008 | 04:43 AM
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Hi K,

&gt;Berlioz did not compose the Marseillaise. He wrote the arrangements for it.&lt;

Thank you. I stand corrected.

Change &quot;He wrote the music that one hears today&quot; to &quot;He wrote the musical arrangement that one hears today&quot;.

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Old Jul 17th, 2008 | 06:57 AM
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I understand the red flag was first sung to &quot;roll out the barrel&quot; now that sounds a jolly good way to get a party started
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