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Old Jan 20th, 2005, 07:54 AM
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Well, it depends on how you define "failure."

Each revolution which has been called a failure was actually a success, in that it overthrew the government it was trying to replace.

Whether the succeeding government was any different, better, or worse for the people is a matter of opinion.
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Old Jan 20th, 2005, 08:44 AM
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>Whether the succeeding government was any different, better, or worse for the people is a matter of opinion.<

A very diplomatc statement.

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Old Jan 20th, 2005, 12:16 PM
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> I hadn't considered the Communist Revolution as having failed because it now accepts Communism <

China's government is communist in name only. The accepted wisdom now is that Mao was "70% right, 30% wrong", although many Chinese will tell you those numbers should be reversed.

Some of us have been lucky enough to get by without a revolution, of course.
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Old Jan 20th, 2005, 02:55 PM
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I have read that for a good portion of the colonial period, opinion was sharply divied in Britain about the wisdom of having colonies in the New World.

Not only was there the drain of policing and protecting them, there was also a fear that the requirement to people them was a drain on the flower of British manhood (and womanhood). I don't mean the act of reproduction but the need to send settlers, soldiers and administrators who might have been better employed in furthering the domestic economy and the governance of the motherland.

The cost-benefit balance had perhaps tipped in favour of colonialism, by the time of the 1776 Revolution.

I believe a similar debate long raged about the desirability of staying in India. Hard to see who benefited, other than the Manchester cotton merchants, from that far-fetched arrangement.

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Old Jan 20th, 2005, 03:19 PM
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I'm 71 and get P---ed Off that some think we are old and over the hill...do IO have news for you!!
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Old Jan 20th, 2005, 03:21 PM
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Shoot!!!!c how this happened? the wrong thread.
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Old Jan 20th, 2005, 03:21 PM
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Shoot!!!!c how this happened? the wrong thread. Old age?
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Well said, Robespierre and Jed.
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