Florence -> Pisa -> Lucca
Jul 14th, 2005, 03:00 PM
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"Lucca is a very pleasant walled city and makes for a relaxing visit."
"Relaxing" is tourism doublespeak for, "there is nothing interesting." There is nothing wrong with the place, but there is nothing to make it worth spending limited travel time there vs. all the other much better places in Italy. You notice that, unlike the rest of Italy, people don't automatically start chiming off all the things there is to do and see there. That's because there aren't any. Yeah, they have a wall. Fine. One wall looks pretty like another. After 10 seconds, you've seen it.
"Relaxing" is tourism doublespeak for, "there is nothing interesting." There is nothing wrong with the place, but there is nothing to make it worth spending limited travel time there vs. all the other much better places in Italy. You notice that, unlike the rest of Italy, people don't automatically start chiming off all the things there is to do and see there. That's because there aren't any. Yeah, they have a wall. Fine. One wall looks pretty like another. After 10 seconds, you've seen it.
Jul 15th, 2005, 06:36 PM
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thank you, metellus, for repeating twice now that you don't like Lucca. how helpful.
Perhaps "relaxing" is tourism doublespeak for "getting away from the throngs of tourists and enjoying a peaceful and simple town for a few hours".
I think people know what they are getting with Lucca, so there is no need to criticize those of us who choose to go there. And love it.
Perhaps "relaxing" is tourism doublespeak for "getting away from the throngs of tourists and enjoying a peaceful and simple town for a few hours".
I think people know what they are getting with Lucca, so there is no need to criticize those of us who choose to go there. And love it.
Jul 16th, 2005, 03:24 AM
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"thank you, metellus, for repeating twice now that you don't like Lucca. how helpful."
I am to be of service.
"I think people know what they are getting with Lucca"
No they don't. How can they if they haven't been there before.
"Perhaps "relaxing" is tourism doublespeak for "getting away from the throngs of tourists"
I always find this kind of comment amusing. Tourists are bad! Must get away from tourists!! OK, go to Bangaldesh and the problem is solved!
"so there is no need to criticize those of us who choose to go there. And love it."
You need serious counseling. Where did I criticize people who choose to go to Lucca? I critized Lucca. In fact, you are the one making the personal attack, not me. Physician heal thyself.
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I am to be of service.
"I think people know what they are getting with Lucca"
No they don't. How can they if they haven't been there before.
"Perhaps "relaxing" is tourism doublespeak for "getting away from the throngs of tourists"
I always find this kind of comment amusing. Tourists are bad! Must get away from tourists!! OK, go to Bangaldesh and the problem is solved!
"so there is no need to criticize those of us who choose to go there. And love it."
You need serious counseling. Where did I criticize people who choose to go to Lucca? I critized Lucca. In fact, you are the one making the personal attack, not me. Physician heal thyself.
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Jul 19th, 2005, 04:45 PM
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metellus-
because your responses to my post are nonsensical, I have decided to reply. no doubt this will illicit another reponse from you, but oh well.
My quote that "people know what they are getting" is accurate, given the assumption that people do research on places before they travel. One does not have to visit Venice to know there will be canals there. I think people are aware that Lucca is not a place to visit to check world-famous sites off their checklists.
Which leads me to the "getting away from tourists" line. This does not mean tourists are bad and should be avoided. The point of this statement is to convey that there is a different pace to a town like Lucca compared to the more "traditional" tourist destinations. There are not a lot of tourbuses or crowds to deal with. Obviously this is not something unique only to Lucca, but one of the reasons why someone may want to visit. Even though there are not world-famous sites there, some people are seeking a smaller town that offers a different feel to Italy. I think Lucca fulfills this desire well. Certainly better than Bangladesh would. I agree with you it is not a town you MUST visit before leaving Italy. But this does not mean it is not worth visitng. And I am glad you find my statements amusing.
Lastly, regarding your assertion that you made no personal attacks, I ask what the purpose of quoting and then dissecting Ira's message was in your post? This was not necessary. When mdtravel asked you to expound on your statement that Lucca should be skipped, you certainly could have done so without mocking someone else's post.
If there are specific reasons not to visit Lucca, in addition to the fact you found it boring, then please share.
because your responses to my post are nonsensical, I have decided to reply. no doubt this will illicit another reponse from you, but oh well.
My quote that "people know what they are getting" is accurate, given the assumption that people do research on places before they travel. One does not have to visit Venice to know there will be canals there. I think people are aware that Lucca is not a place to visit to check world-famous sites off their checklists.
Which leads me to the "getting away from tourists" line. This does not mean tourists are bad and should be avoided. The point of this statement is to convey that there is a different pace to a town like Lucca compared to the more "traditional" tourist destinations. There are not a lot of tourbuses or crowds to deal with. Obviously this is not something unique only to Lucca, but one of the reasons why someone may want to visit. Even though there are not world-famous sites there, some people are seeking a smaller town that offers a different feel to Italy. I think Lucca fulfills this desire well. Certainly better than Bangladesh would. I agree with you it is not a town you MUST visit before leaving Italy. But this does not mean it is not worth visitng. And I am glad you find my statements amusing.
Lastly, regarding your assertion that you made no personal attacks, I ask what the purpose of quoting and then dissecting Ira's message was in your post? This was not necessary. When mdtravel asked you to expound on your statement that Lucca should be skipped, you certainly could have done so without mocking someone else's post.
If there are specific reasons not to visit Lucca, in addition to the fact you found it boring, then please share.
Jul 20th, 2005, 12:59 AM
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re your statement
"Yeah, they have a wall. Fine. One wall looks pretty like another. After 10 seconds, you've seen it. "
really had me laughing out loud, since I figured you must be joking! If not then, then suffer from a sad lack of imagination.
Lucca and it's beautiful Wall will always have a special place in my heart, I visited there years ago with a young Florentine friend. We visited his uncle and the family, and spent the day with them.
It was my first time visiting someone's home in Italy, and is a precious memory of a sunfilled afternoon spent in a garden eating a delicious lunch and experiencing my first taste of Italian grace and hospitality.
In Italy, people identify so closely with their hometown, that if you criticize the town, it is also a personal insult to them, so in the name of that fine family, I say... Fie on you!
re your statement
"Yeah, they have a wall. Fine. One wall looks pretty like another. After 10 seconds, you've seen it. "
really had me laughing out loud, since I figured you must be joking! If not then, then suffer from a sad lack of imagination.
Lucca and it's beautiful Wall will always have a special place in my heart, I visited there years ago with a young Florentine friend. We visited his uncle and the family, and spent the day with them.
It was my first time visiting someone's home in Italy, and is a precious memory of a sunfilled afternoon spent in a garden eating a delicious lunch and experiencing my first taste of Italian grace and hospitality.
In Italy, people identify so closely with their hometown, that if you criticize the town, it is also a personal insult to them, so in the name of that fine family, I say... Fie on you!
