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Old Aug 8th, 2005 | 06:18 PM
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Can anyone rec. the best restaurants and also ones with a beautiful atmosphere.Has anyone been to Le Pre catelan and Le Ambassedeaurs?
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Old Aug 8th, 2005 | 06:25 PM
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Hi Cindy,

You're going to have to give us a little more to go on. In which city/region will you be?
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Old Aug 8th, 2005 | 06:33 PM
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This is Paris.

Les Ambassadeurs is the restaurant in the Crillon Hotel,it is as opulent and gold-filled and formal as restaurants get.
I haven't been to all the great restaurants in Paris, but to a few. I would call Les Ambassadeurs one of the best, but not the best of my experience.
I prefer a restaurant that attracts at least a few locals; hotel restaurants don't often do that.
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Old Aug 8th, 2005 | 06:33 PM
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Cindymal: In addition to adding the fact that the restaurants are in Paris, you should perhaps spell them correctly:

Le Pre Catalan
Les Ambassadeurs
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Old Aug 8th, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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Eloise: The heading of the post is'Fine Dinning', and you want the names of the restaurants spelt correctly? Might be asking a bit much.
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Old Aug 8th, 2005 | 06:54 PM
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Adeben: I was going to refer to "dinning" but I thought that might be unkind...
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Old Aug 8th, 2005 | 09:55 PM
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Wow what a tough crew.I should have paid more attention.Although I do know how to spell some of these were typos.
Anyway thank you for bringing this to my attention and if you do have any restaurant rec. it would be appreciated.
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Old Aug 8th, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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Tough crew maybe, but with some info that might help. I have been to a number of Michelin-rated 3 Star restaurants in France, and thought the ones in Paris generally overpriced. However, I have not been to either of the ones suggested. Of course, NO Three Star restaurant is cheap, but for a total experience combining convenience, situation, ambience, service and food, I suggest you take a train ride of 1 hour 45 minutes from Gare de Lyon (approx. 20 euros) to Joigny, and attend the restaurant 'Cote St Jacques' on the banks of the Yonne River at 14 Faubourg de Paris. Stay overnight at the attached hotel. No matter what else you do in France, that will be the highlight of your trip.
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Old Aug 9th, 2005 | 12:38 AM
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Dining perhaps? Have you tried a restaurant guide?
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Old Aug 9th, 2005 | 01:56 AM
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Now that it has been cleared up that you are asking for some fine dining in Paris perhaps we can help you.

Pre Catelan is lovely. Lasserre with its sliding roof is different. Les Ambassadeurs, Le Meurice, Bristol and the Ritz for hotels also have their attractions. I have dined at all the above mentioned. There are many, many others that I could also mention. Paris has an almost unending list of dining "experiences"...Enjoy...
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Old Aug 9th, 2005 | 05:59 AM
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The "tough crew" didn't give one good piece of advice: re-post your question with an improved header. Remember, there is no length limit to a message header. I'd start with

"Seeking advice and recent experiences for fine dining in Paris; focused on beautiful atmospheres, and especially interested in any recent visits to Pre Catalan or Les Amabassadeurs".

Best wishes,

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Old Aug 9th, 2005 | 06:16 AM
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Oh, please Rex-give it a rest! I note that your overly long post heading of the other day sunk to the bottom rather quickly, now didn't it?
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Old Aug 9th, 2005 | 06:18 AM
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While in Paris I dined at several fine restaurants from the Fodor's travel guide and found everyone to be of excellent quality, service and reasonably priced in comparison to it's US counterpart. An example would be a $60 to $70 meal in the US was less in Paris for same quality and variety. Also, by carrying in the Fodor's (also Frommer's) book we often got a discount.
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Old Aug 9th, 2005 | 07:22 AM
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Hi C,

I take it that you are not interested in Taillevent, Tour d'Argent, or Alain Ducasse at the Plaza Athenée?

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Old Aug 9th, 2005 | 09:36 AM
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I'd suggest Relais Louis XIII in the 6th. The chef, Manuel Martinez, was the chef at La Tour d'Argent for 18 years and is a member of La Maitre Cuisinier (Master Chefs of France). When I was there in June, no Michelin star yet but he's obviously working toward one. My husband and I were the only non-French dining that night. Wait staff speaks English and were a little haughty, but not too much so. Hubby was a bit intiminated by the wine list that had wines at a very expensive high end (thounsnds of euros a bottle!)but the waiter recommended a wonderful Hermitage that was only E60. We did the prix fixe with the bottle of wine and water; bill came to E230. Dinner was an entertainment from the wine steward's decanting, many amuse buches(sp),cheese cart, cream puffs and, of course, Grand Marnier souffle. It was a lovely 3 hours with excellent food. I believe the website is www.relaislouis13.com - sorry, I'm at work and the address is at home.
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Old Aug 10th, 2005 | 07:59 PM
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Just wanted to thank everyone for thier
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In response to GSteed in finding a restarant guide.I can assure you that I have many guides but nothing replaces the advice one can get on this forum.
Ira I actually have a rservation at Alain Ducasse,Guy Savoy,Le Pre catalan.Les Ambassadeurs,Le Cinq,CrystalRoom.Taillevent,Tour d'Argent are booked.I think I will enjoy my "dining" experience in Paris.
If anyone has been to any of these restaurants I would appreciate the feedback.I have been to Alain Ducasse NYC and was not thrilled.Also I am not sure of the Crystal room.
Merci
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Old Aug 11th, 2005 | 07:53 AM
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Hi cindy,

>I have been to Alain Ducasse NYC and was not thrilled.<

I have read a couple of recent reviews that complain that Ducasse is so busy with his world-wide business interests that the quality of the Paris restaurant has slipped.

I give you that for what it is worth, as I have not been there recently.

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Old Aug 11th, 2005 | 08:02 AM
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cindymal,
I WAS thrilled with my experience at Alain Ducasse in New York, but if you weren't, not sure about your decision to book a reservation at his restaurant in Paris.
FYI, I have read that one of his newer Paris ventures, Aux Lyonnais, is an excellent bistro, and not as formal as the restaurants that bear his name.
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Old Aug 11th, 2005 | 08:16 AM
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"Dinning" is a subject for discussion also--so many new restaurants seem to go for noise rather than food.
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Old Aug 11th, 2005 | 10:22 AM
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LOL Underhill, that was a good comment! Remember "the good old days" when one could actually converse with their dinner partners? Take care.
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