Experiences with Strikes in Greece?
Jun 24th, 2011, 08:11 AM
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I am flying into Athens on Wednesday for a two week trip to visit Athens and inslands. I wanted to ask about the workers reaction to yesterdays news. Are there still riots? Any strikes planned for next week? Just debating if we should skip Athens, which I really don't want to miss. Any thoughts would be helpful. I can cancel my hotel in Athens without a penalty until Sunday, June 26.
Jun 24th, 2011, 12:33 PM
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There will be a general strike on the 28th and 29th of June.
I don't know who exactly is going to strike, but so far during previous strikes flights were not affected.
If your hotel is not located directly on Syntagma Square, i think you won't notice anything. Just avoid the Syntagma area on these 2 days.
I don't know who exactly is going to strike, but so far during previous strikes flights were not affected.
If your hotel is not located directly on Syntagma Square, i think you won't notice anything. Just avoid the Syntagma area on these 2 days.
Jun 24th, 2011, 01:19 PM
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We witnessed a very peaceful demonstration in Athens during our June visit. Thousands in the street but no rioting and no breaking of windows. Just a stand in I guess.
Have a Plan B for any trip. I do as it makes a cancelled flight or missed ferry much easier to deal with and you won't waste your time wondering what to do next.
Agree, don't worry unless you have something concrete to worry about.
Have a Plan B for any trip. I do as it makes a cancelled flight or missed ferry much easier to deal with and you won't waste your time wondering what to do next.
Agree, don't worry unless you have something concrete to worry about.
Jun 24th, 2011, 02:14 PM
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@Heimdall
Unfortunately there have been riots but only during the last strike, and only on Syntagme square... to blame are the 50 anarchists, who try to manipulate every bigger demostration.. we see this happening in Athens for the last 20 years, and somehow these ppl never get arrested by the police... they are called in Greek as a joke οι γνωστοί άγνωστοι..which means the well known strangers....
Unfortunately there have been riots but only during the last strike, and only on Syntagme square... to blame are the 50 anarchists, who try to manipulate every bigger demostration.. we see this happening in Athens for the last 20 years, and somehow these ppl never get arrested by the police... they are called in Greek as a joke οι γνωστοί άγνωστοι..which means the well known strangers....
Jun 24th, 2011, 11:21 PM
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Hi Clausar,
Yes I knew about the one incident with the small number of anarchists (which was also shown on BBC). Since then the coverage has been of peaceful demonstrations, including closeups of elderly people and parents with children in their arms. I wanted to make the distinction between demonstrations and riots, because some people seem to use the terms interchangeably.
I, for one, won't worry, and intend to stay in the same hotel just off Syntagma Square that I stayed in last summer.
Yes I knew about the one incident with the small number of anarchists (which was also shown on BBC). Since then the coverage has been of peaceful demonstrations, including closeups of elderly people and parents with children in their arms. I wanted to make the distinction between demonstrations and riots, because some people seem to use the terms interchangeably.
I, for one, won't worry, and intend to stay in the same hotel just off Syntagma Square that I stayed in last summer.
Jun 24th, 2011, 11:35 PM
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Are those that go on strike aware that should they succeed and should Greece therefore drop out of the €, there'll be no food on the table for quite a few days. The people have been abused by their government but some also abused the system.
Jun 25th, 2011, 08:32 PM
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There have been many discussions in Greece about the demonstrations, fact is certain things are not easy to understand if you don't live in Greece , and don't experience what people here are going through.
Won't analyze this any further, but just keep in mind there are people without any hope for the future, that have lost overnight 60% of their income and have difficulties to buy essential things, and that unemployement increased from 8 to at the moment 15%......
There have been many discussions in Greece about the demonstrations, fact is certain things are not easy to understand if you don't live in Greece , and don't experience what people here are going through.
Won't analyze this any further, but just keep in mind there are people without any hope for the future, that have lost overnight 60% of their income and have difficulties to buy essential things, and that unemployement increased from 8 to at the moment 15%......
Jun 26th, 2011, 12:36 AM
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logos, not the place to discuss what might, or might not, be, we all have to wait & see. Far too many scenario predictions flying around, only time will tell.
Watch this & see who you think is control of Greece's destiny,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-6xZaR2vc8
Whether this, or other experts opinions/predictions/accusations are the correct ones is largely irrelevant to the people of Greece, bottom line is they are the ones that suffer & pay, not the big guys.
Watch this & see who you think is control of Greece's destiny,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-6xZaR2vc8
Whether this, or other experts opinions/predictions/accusations are the correct ones is largely irrelevant to the people of Greece, bottom line is they are the ones that suffer & pay, not the big guys.
Jun 26th, 2011, 12:53 AM
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Well, all the best. The end of free money for the banksters and politicians and bureaucrats had to come, looks like the crowd accepted it as long es they got some of it too. Was there any progress at all in the last 30 years that wasn't financed by foreign money? They still believe they'd get more money from us Germans to keep it going, but we don't have it either. Our pension funds have been "invested" in the scheme (Detroit and elsewhere!) and are gone now.
Drop out of the € and there'll be no money at all to buy food anymore that's for sure.
As long as the "economic terrorists" share part of the swag with the people, people will remain silent. That's something we could learn out of this. All the best!
Drop out of the € and there'll be no money at all to buy food anymore that's for sure.
As long as the "economic terrorists" share part of the swag with the people, people will remain silent. That's something we could learn out of this. All the best!
Jun 26th, 2011, 02:30 AM
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h, You don't seem to be in Greece.
"Doom" has happend in 2008, what comes now is the inevitable result, you just don't seem to realize it. Don't say that you havn't been warned.
The greek protesters would do a big service to the peoples of the EU if they'd bring down the banks by saying NO!, even if it comes with widespead poverty, it may be worth it.
"Doom" has happend in 2008, what comes now is the inevitable result, you just don't seem to realize it. Don't say that you havn't been warned.
The greek protesters would do a big service to the peoples of the EU if they'd bring down the banks by saying NO!, even if it comes with widespead poverty, it may be worth it.
Jun 26th, 2011, 05:51 AM
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Schäuble just made a statement in "Bild", they're prepared for a Greek default. Something like, "2008 did cost us 4.5% of production, how bad can it be". A Greek default will kill US banks and all Greek banks. It'll be fun LOL...
Better than sending goods and free money to pay for them at the same time.
Better than sending goods and free money to pay for them at the same time.
Jun 26th, 2011, 06:15 AM
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dear logos999
I think it would make more sense if you would post your thoughts about the economical situation of Greece in the fora of the Bild Zeitung, which you obviously are reading.
Writing here about these things seems to be off topic.
And one more thing :
comments like this one "2008 did cost us 4.5% of production, how bad can it be". A Greek default will kill US banks and all Greek banks. It'll be fun LOL...
are quite offensive for me, a Greek living in Athens, as i don't find anything funny about it.
I think it would make more sense if you would post your thoughts about the economical situation of Greece in the fora of the Bild Zeitung, which you obviously are reading.
Writing here about these things seems to be off topic.
And one more thing :
comments like this one "2008 did cost us 4.5% of production, how bad can it be". A Greek default will kill US banks and all Greek banks. It'll be fun LOL...
are quite offensive for me, a Greek living in Athens, as i don't find anything funny about it.
Jun 26th, 2011, 08:01 AM
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Yes, the news are from Bild, because Schäuble has given this interview to Bild, so who else should publish it. The FAZ
The economical situation of Greece highly offends Germans, because the Greek public expects Germany to pay for the Greeks mistakes without even a "thank you".
Dear clausar, the comment in "" that you quoted as offensive comes from the german minister of finance "Hr. Schäuble", trying to inform Germans that if Greece choses to commit financial suicide it's not a thing that would hurt Germany too much. If you want to complain about it adress your complaint to the German ministry of finance.
The economical situation of Greece highly offends Germans, because the Greek public expects Germany to pay for the Greeks mistakes without even a "thank you".
Dear clausar, the comment in "" that you quoted as offensive comes from the german minister of finance "Hr. Schäuble", trying to inform Germans that if Greece choses to commit financial suicide it's not a thing that would hurt Germany too much. If you want to complain about it adress your complaint to the German ministry of finance.
Jun 26th, 2011, 08:09 AM
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Infact Schäuble gives those interviews to Bild to calm down the German public, who has to a large extent become really p**** about what's happening down there and wants to cut all spending. So be careful not to commit financial suicide and support your government! If your government fails, the support from the German government will end and also from the rest of Europe. It would be time for pro Government rallies.
Jun 26th, 2011, 08:26 AM
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One more thing, clausar. If you havn't done so already, get your money out of the bank tomorrow. A few smaller bills too. If everything remains calm and the bail outs continue, there's no harm done. This following week will decide a lot, either bancrupt by thursday and a bank run or the game will go on for a few more weeks.
