European Crossword Puzzle #15

Old Aug 21st, 2005 | 08:23 AM
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Pierre Samuel du Pont de Nemours
Negotiation on Louisiana Purchase (I think you miscounted the position of "i&quot
Grandson estate is Longwood Gardens in Kennett Square, Pennsylvania

(cmt, did you go to Longwood Gardens recently?)
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Old Aug 21st, 2005 | 09:58 AM
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I'm always counting wrong!

No, I haven't gone there in a few years. Have you been there recently, during a visit to the Philadelphia area? I always mean to go there about once a year, in spring or fall, but unless I'm meeting someone there, sometimes I just don't feel like taking the hour and a half drive. I first went there when I was around five, when we lived in southeastern PA for a few years. But I never knew until about 25 years ago that there were outdoor gardens, too (my mother didn't really like taking long walks, so I guess that's why we didn't do that, though my father and I would've enjoyed it).
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Old Aug 21st, 2005 | 10:40 AM
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I've only been there twice, once in Spring '01 and once in Spring '02. Enjoyed both visits a lot.

I'll have to think of a new clue.
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Old Aug 21st, 2005 | 06:37 PM
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This composer (last name: 11) suffered from a mental illness and was cured by (person last name: 4) with (method:8).

The composer subsequently dedicated a piece of his work to the person.

"n" from du Pont is the 4th letter of "method."
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Old Aug 21st, 2005 | 07:07 PM
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Rachmaninov was cured of debilitating depression by Carl Jung, using hypnosis.

Do you want the name of the piece dedicated by Jung?
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Old Aug 21st, 2005 | 07:12 PM
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Whoops--une erreur!

Piano Concerto #2, dedicated to Dahl (not Jung), his therapist.
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Old Aug 21st, 2005 | 07:14 PM
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Yes!
Your turn, grandmere.
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Old Aug 22nd, 2005 | 03:08 AM
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I didn't check the thread over the weekend, but it's nice to see some activity.

It's funny -- I'm listening to Rachmaninoff's own recording of the 2nd and 3rd concerti (in addition to other things) (the RCA incarnation). I'm supposed to mail this to someone I know, so I'm giving it a listen.

The 2nd concerto is surprisingly good (I've not listened to it in years).
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Old Aug 22nd, 2005 | 04:53 AM
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Somebody else take a turn; unable to check often from work, etc.
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Old Aug 22nd, 2005 | 07:49 AM
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I'll give one. Identify these artists and the masters under which they were apprentices. Pairs A, B, C are from the Renaissance, but not Pair D.

Artist 1 in each case is the apprentice. Artist 2 is the "master."

Pair A:
Artist 1 (8 letters). Artist 2 supposedly stopped painting when he realized that Artist 1 drew better than he did.

Pair B:
Artist 1 (7 letters). A chapel/church in Florence houses a series of ruined frescoes by Artist 2 (8 letters). The chapel/church is usually not on the radar screens of most tourists.

Pair C:
Artist 1 (12 letters) (a superstar) denied that he was ever an apprentice under Artist 2 (11 letters).

Pair D:
The standard story goes that Artist 1 (6 letters) was discovered by Artist 2 (7 letters) while artist 1 was tending to some animals (5 letters).

Letter clues:
Artist 1 from Pair B starts with "r" (from Rachmaninoff).

2nd letter of Artist 2 from Pair C is "h" (from Dahl).

"h" is the 2nd letter of the animals in clue D.
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Old Aug 22nd, 2005 | 07:50 AM
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Artist 2 in Pair A has ten letters.
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Old Aug 22nd, 2005 | 02:47 PM
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A. Leonardo & Verrocchio?
B. Raphael & Perugino
C. Michelangelo & Ghirlandaio
D. Giotto & Cimabue & sheep
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Old Aug 22nd, 2005 | 05:09 PM
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Correct!
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Old Aug 24th, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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Where is cmt?

Why don't I continue with the above theme?

Pair E. Artist 1 = 8 letters; Artist 2 = 2 words (2, 6). [The second word means something bad and is derived from a biblical town.] However, there may be no evidence that Artist 2 was apprenticed under Artist 1, though Artist 2 was influenced by Artist 1.

Pair F. Artist 1 = 2 words (3, 8); Artist 2 = 7 letters. [The 3rd = 4th letter is a very uncommonly used letter (in English). Remembered for a fresco cycle in a palace.]

Pair G. Artist 1 = 7 letters. Artist 2 = 9 letters. Artist 2 died young. People still debate the meaning of a mysterious painting.

Pair H. Artist 1 = 7 letters. Same as Artist 1 in pair G. Artist 2 = 6 letters. Attribution of works to Artist G and Artist H can sometimes be a little unclear.

Pair I. Artist 1 = 3 words, 6, 3, 5. He was known as being a consummate painter, but his star has dimmed over the years. Artist 2 = 5 letters. (Responsible for a certain "school" in a country with six letters.)

First letter for Artist 2 in Pair G = "g" from Giotto.
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Old Aug 24th, 2005 | 04:19 PM
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I forgot that it was may turn. I just found this by clicking on my name, but I have to go make supper now.
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Old Aug 24th, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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I can only solve a few.

Pair F: Fra Angelico, Gozzoli
Pair G: Bellini, Giorgione
Pair H: Bellini, Titian
Pair I: (?) Andrea del Sarto, ?
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Old Aug 25th, 2005 | 02:54 AM
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Yes, everything is correct so far.

The school that Artist 2 is associated with in said country of six letters is also the name of a castle.

Artist 2 in Pair E is a Sienese painter.
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Old Aug 25th, 2005 | 06:23 AM
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By the way, cmt, if you're ready, feel free to ditch the rest of the clue and we can start over.

It was your turn anyway.

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Old Aug 25th, 2005 | 06:47 AM
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Can't until tonight. Sometimes I can answer when at work if I know it, but can't take the time to make up clues.
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Old Aug 25th, 2005 | 07:12 AM
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Let's leave this one there for now then. We can start over when you're ready to give us a clue.

I can always reuse the unanswered parts for another clue when it's my turn.

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