yk

Oh, I guess my clue had an error. Champollion was French, and hence the irony.

Your turn, 111op

111op

I didn't even notice that.

I looked up Champollion a few months ago thinking that I'd use it for this clue, so I knew this right away, except for that Treaty of Alexandria.

111op

Clue: This pair of artists (married, I think, but one of them has died, I think -- not sure about the other) is best known for (type of art: 9 letters), examples of which can be found right outside of (place: 9 letters) in city (5 letters).

1st letter of type of art = "s"

Artist 1: 4 words, 4, 2, 5, 6
Artist 2: 2 words, 4, 8

111op

Looks like both of them are dead, but she died more recently than he did.

grandmere

Jean Tinguely and Niki de Saint Phalle, sculptors, outside Beaubourg, in Paris?

111op

Yes.

You should give us a clue now, grandmere, since we've been giving clues on your behalf....

grandmere

This illustrator (3 words--4,7,5), an ardent (nationality-6 letters)patriot published his drawings under a pseudonym, (5 letters), by which he is best known. His favorite subjects were the people and costumes of (region--6 letters), his region of his country.

his name (3 words--4,7,5)
his nationality (1 word--6)
his pseudonym (1 word-- 5)
his region (1 word--6)

Last letter of his pseudonym is the "i" from Niki.

Intrepid1

Hansi or Jean Jacques Waltz

Intrepid1

Sorry, couldn't resist this one

111op

Is this one so easy? I had to Google it. I had no idea, but it was easy to Google.

So you're giving us the next clue?

Intrepid1

No, I'll defer to you since you guys are obviously so much better at it than I am but I do hope this continues to go well for you.

111op

Oh, you can humor us!

grandmere

Geesh, it was too easy!

111op

Well, that's the thing about this game. You give a clue and people get it right away, and you think the clue is too easy.

But really, ideally, a clue shouldn't take too long to solve. Otherwise the game becomes very dull.

grandmere

Yes, 111op, I agree, but it seems hard for me to find the right balance between an obscure one and one that's apparent after 1 Google; should be a little more difficult than that!

111op

Well, I think that when it comes down to it, a lot of the clues are "Googlable." To make the clue not easily searchable, you frequently have to rephrase the clue and disguise some keywords (in the clue you just gave, you probably have to use some other word for illustrator).

But still, I think that Intrepid knew it. I had no idea, but it wasn't hard to Google starting from "French illustrator pseudonym."

yk

I'll post another clue.

This island country (5 letters) is comprised mainly of 3 islands.
The 2nd largest island (4 letters) is thought to be this island (6 letters) depicted in this epic (title: 7) by (author: 5). In the epic, this character (7) kept another character (8) captive on the island.

Country: 5
Island: 4
Island name in the epic: 6 ("a" = last letter)
Epic: 7
Author: 5
Character 1: 7
Character 2: 8

"a" from Waltz

111op

The country is Malta. The island is Gozo (Ogygia), where Calypso kept Odysseus captive. The epic is obviously Homer's Odyssey.

111op

This is a little long and complicated, but it's easy if you know where to look or if you know this story, which has been told and retold to death.

Clue: Character 1 (7 letters) is a "hero" (well, imperfect as these people are). He's related to Character 2 (6 letters), who gave his name to a (geographical object: 3 letters).

Character 1's most famous deed involved Character 3 (8 letters).

Character 1 is said to have been helped by Character 4 (7 letters), but he repaid her kindness by dumping her on this island (5 letters), so the story goes. Her name appears in a work (type of work: 5 letters) by (person: 7 letters). Character 4 is related to Character 5 below.

Finally, because of the heroic deed of Character 1, Character 5 (5 letters) was very upset. This meant that Characters 6 (8 letters) and Character 7 (6 letters) had to flee. Character 6's claim to fame was that he built a (object: 9 letters) for Character 3. Character 7's unfortunate claim to fame was that he disregarded Character 6's advice about being too close to the (object: 3 letters). Character 6 and 7 are related.

3rd letter of Character 1 is "e."

yk

Greek Mythology:

<b>Theseus</b> is a &quot;hero&quot; (well, imperfect as these people are). He's related to <b>Aegeus</b>, who gave his name to a <b>sea</b>.

<b>Theseus</b> most famous deed involved <b>Minotaur</b>.

<b>Theseus</b> is said to have been helped by <b>Ariadne</b>, but he repaid her kindness by dumping her on <b>Crete</b>, so the story goes. Her name appears in <b>an opera</b> by <b>Richard Strauss</b>. <b>Ariadne</b> is related to <b>Minos</b>.

Finally, because of the heroic deed of <b>Theseus</b>, <b>Minos</b> was very upset. This meant that <b>Daedalus</b> and <b>Icarus</b> had to flee. <b>Daedalus</b>'s claim to fame was that he built a <b>labyrinth</b> for <b>Minotaur</b>. <b>Icarus</b>'s unfortunate claim to fame was that he disregarded <b>Daedalus</b>'s advice about being too close to the <b>sun</b>.