The people living there were Russian and are Russian, nothing that can change that. They have every right for self governance.

The US government ist pumping endless military aid into Georgia and even wants it to join NATO. An absurd idea.

When people like Stalin!! can become sovjet dictators or Shevardnadze a foreign minister, there can't have be that much discrimination against Georgians in the SU.

And is it not true that the road from the Tiblissi airport to downtown has been renamed to
"George W. Bush avenue"

The US have no business whatsoever in that region.

Logos, make liike a hockey player and get the puck out of here!

I'm sure someone from the crowd will throw it back instead of keeping it.
No matter how bizzare the russification (and other) arguments are. For "coordinated moves" of people by the native Georgian dictator of the SU, he'd better ask the Polish or Germans. Neither the Polish do send their forces to Lemberg today nor the Germans to Breslau.
The Russian people there have every right to live in peace in their homes.

Puck is out of here!

P.S At the end of GWB avenue, downtown Tiblissi, you'll find a huge statue of Stalin. (or was that in Gori. ;-) )

Travelgourmet

" but it the act of going into Iraq was not the result of Bush's bloodthirsty nature, and claiming it is only leads one to erroneous conclusions"

nonsense.

The second-largest deposits of oil in the world lie beneath the soil of Iraq,

While Clinton was still President,(and I think it was about 1998) Jeb Bush, Cheney, and Bill Kristol as well as many other politically recognizable names formed PNAC, Project for a New American Century
and sent him a letter demanding Clinton attack Iraq, which he would not.

Attacking Sadaam and Iraq has always been on the Bush agenda - and they used the attack on New York by a madman based in Afghanistan to attack a country which had nothing to do with the 9/11 attack.

Either you are one of the few 20 % who still buy into the administration's lies that Iraq had WMD and was responsible for 9-11, or you are in the administration.

Not only were Bush's actions based on revenge for his father and greed for Iraqi oil, and Cheney's based on greed, but the original name of the operation against Iraq was "Operation Iraqi Liberation" O.I.L.
When they realized they were showing their true intent they changed the name of the operation to Operation Iraqi Freedom and began to sell that we were "freeing" the poor Iraqi people.

If our intent was honorable and not just for oil and domination of the area, we have been asked several times over the past year and a half by the puppet govt of Iraq TO LEAVE, which Bush said we would do when the new Iraqi government requested we do so. Of course under Bush and Cheney no response to that promise has been honored. Under Bush more Iraqis have been killed than ever were under Sadaam, and American kids are dying for oil companies that have more than enough billions to hire their own armies.

If the CIA and Americans are involved in the conflict in Georgia - we have no business being there. When the administration speaks of
American interests they are not speaking of your safety and security. They are speaking of oil companies' interests. Period.

Currently there are 5 American warships in the Strait of Hormuz pointed at Iran "to protect American interests". The Admiral who said there would be no attack on Iran while he was in charge, has been fired.

Logos is certainly an unreasonable America hater, but you also choose to defend, gloss over and deny the reality of wrongful American foreign policy actions which have made America hated around the world, and bankrupted this country.

I am through with this discussion.

> Logos is certainly an unreasonable America hater
In that case, you shouldn't leave home.
I'm with the majority, "see ya" in Europe.

As a German, Logos, you dont have much to brag about or be proud of. Your country and countrymen have been hated for decades, and intensely disliked for exactly the abraviseness and
arrogance you exhibit.

Most have been too polite here to say that straight out. But there's a limit to polite to boors.

Looks like we're far too sophisticated for ya . Maybe you're a litte racist. Thanks for telling this to the world!
Just be careful, the French will roast you .

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<i>Project for a New American Century</i>

Well, they certainly screwed that up. This century belongs to China and India, like it or not.

Kerouac,

they are globalists. Their aim probably was to bury America and bring China and India to the top. That's what the Trilateral organization is about.

<i>they are globalists. Their aim probably was to bury America and bring China and India to the top. That's what the Trilateral organization is about.</i>

All this American elite (Rockefeller et al.) wanted to do what you claim. Surely you jest, or paranoia has gotten the better of you.

I think that this now belongs in the lounge.