There will be 4 adults travelling to Italy, Germany, Switzerland and France and 2 adults going on to England. Counting the days of travel within the first three countries, there will be 5 (maybe 6) days of train travel. The day to England will be the 6th or 7th day of travel. From what I understand, there is a discount on the train from Paris to London with the pass. By this point my pass will be used up and I don't imagine that I will get any discount. <BR> <BR>Also, we will be travelling from Wurzburg (Germany) to Grindelwald, staying 4 days and using the lifts in the area with a possible day trip to Zermatt. I don't think that the pass will cover any of the lifts and we will have to "up" our pass from 6 days to 7 if we decide to got to Zermatt. Would it be better to have a Swiss pass for use in Switzerland? <BR> <BR>This is all so much of a jigsaw puzzle! <BR> <BR>Linda <BR> <BR>

OOOPS! Sorry, really messed up the days of travel. There will be 5, possibly 6 days of travel over all. <BR> <BR>Linda

Make sure that Eurail Saverpass will save you money buy searching on the internet to see if there is any special offer: We've just returned from Germany: we've used German weekend pass to go from Nuremberg to Salzburg, Austria. Only spend 20DM (~$10US) for 3. We've also bought 2nd class to go from Germany to France.

Linda, <BR>Sounds like you're going to have a great vacation. Sorry I can't comment about the Saverpass generally, but I can offer an opinion or two about your trip in Switzerland. <BR> <BR>Seems to me that going to Zermatt is quite a long shot for a "day trip." Did you know that the train trip is 3:53 hours long with 4 connections? You'll only have enough time to get a glimpse of the Matterhorn, grab lunch, and then catch the train back. You can check out the schedule at www.rail.ch, then click on "Timetable." If it were me . . . I'd stay in the Berner Oberland and maybe go up to the Schilthorn or something. <BR> <BR>For the lifts around Grindelwald, *neither* the Saverpass *nor* the Swiss pass will cover the fares. You'll have to invest in a regional pass (called an "Active Pass" for non-skiers or the ski pass for skiers) to access those areas. In addition, for trips up to the Jungfrau or to the Schilthorn, none of these passes works -- you must buy a special excursion ticket (Exception: skipass works at the Schilthorn; I've skied there w/o paying an extra fee). <BR> <BR>For an exceptional breakdown on these passes, fares, and activities in the Berner Oberland, go to Ed's personal travel website at www.twenj.com; go to "Switzerland," then just surf away. Also check out www.grindelwald.ch, click on "English," and surf around "Summer Activities" or "Winter Activities" etc. <BR> <BR>Write me if you want more info. <BR> <BR>s

Hi S., I hadn't actually sat down and figured out the time to get to Zermatt. I think we'll skip that idea! We will be in Switz. in May. I've been to Ed's great website several times checking things out and will go back again. One problem is that I don't think that all the lifts (First, for example) will be open at the time we will be there. At least that is what the Grindelwald tourist office told me. That was several months ago, maybe things have changed. <BR> <BR>Linda