Documents to be presented upon arrival in France.
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That's pretty much what I experienced last month.
At the height of the Covid restrictions and post Brexit I was required to carry 12 separate documents. On entry, immigration officers only wanted to see two - a negative Covid test and my passport. Haven't said that , there's no way I would suggest winging it and not taking the required documents, entry always seems to be down to the discretion of each officer.
That's pretty much what I experienced last month.
At the height of the Covid restrictions and post Brexit I was required to carry 12 separate documents. On entry, immigration officers only wanted to see two - a negative Covid test and my passport. Haven't said that , there's no way I would suggest winging it and not taking the required documents, entry always seems to be down to the discretion of each officer.
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Just to point out that this law was not in effect last month, so experiences before 1 May may not be indicative of what the future may hold. Additionally, I understand that any police official may ask for these items at any time, not just when you pass through border control.
It's just too early to know the full impact. This might turn out to be similar to the IDP requirement when driving. IDP´s were only recently required in France, within the last few years. Much has been written about IDPs on travels forums, but I have never heard of anyone being asked for one by the police.
It's just too early to know the full impact. This might turn out to be similar to the IDP requirement when driving. IDP´s were only recently required in France, within the last few years. Much has been written about IDPs on travels forums, but I have never heard of anyone being asked for one by the police.
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On that webpage it says you need to show you have 65 euros per day after hotel. Just carry the documents or have them on your phone. The title is a bit misleading here, maybe they will ask, maybe not.
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I still don't know what papers I need to carry to verity the 65E per day stuff. My bank/brokerage account statement, my credit card statement showing the credit card credit amount remaining, or do I need to carry cash???? And the travel insurance? Do I show them the 5 page document that indicates my Medicare coverage in Europe. I can just see me standing in line at immigration at CDG with 2,000 people in front of me in the same line. And if I bring the wrong document - do they deny me entry?
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A credit card is usually sufficient to prove that you have financial means.
And yes, it is my experience as well travelling during these times is that you have printed lots of documents and then no one asks for them (eg legal reason to leave the UK, no one asked anything, COVID test to enter DK, no one asked for the test certificate but they made you take an antigen test at the airport on arrival) and then you get asked for something that you didn't know you had to have (eg receipt for the UK's day 2 & 8 tests, booking ref was not enough apparently so had to fumble thru my credit card statement on my iphone looking for proof of payment).
And yes, it is my experience as well travelling during these times is that you have printed lots of documents and then no one asks for them (eg legal reason to leave the UK, no one asked anything, COVID test to enter DK, no one asked for the test certificate but they made you take an antigen test at the airport on arrival) and then you get asked for something that you didn't know you had to have (eg receipt for the UK's day 2 & 8 tests, booking ref was not enough apparently so had to fumble thru my credit card statement on my iphone looking for proof of payment).
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How is this going to work for visitors coming from the US to France via Iceland ? Passengers enter the Schengen zone in Iceland, which believe me is a cakewalk compared to the passport control lines at CDG. In the past we haven't gone through any further formalities when we reached CDG. We just got off the plane and headed directly to the luggage carousels.
I can't see Iceland doing France's border checks for them, so is it likely TCNs coming to France from elsewhere in the Schengen zone will be interviewed on arrival at CDG?
I'm not taking this too seriously. By the time we get to France it will all have shaken out. But it does cause us to start thinking: Icelandair or Air France? Which is less of a hassle?
I can't see Iceland doing France's border checks for them, so is it likely TCNs coming to France from elsewhere in the Schengen zone will be interviewed on arrival at CDG?
I'm not taking this too seriously. By the time we get to France it will all have shaken out. But it does cause us to start thinking: Icelandair or Air France? Which is less of a hassle?
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They seem to have left out several accommodation situations, most notably, what if your accommodations is your own secondary residence, but you are not staying beyond your Schengen limits (for a residence permit or other type of VISA)? I reviewed the link in french, but it seemed only to cover hosted stays. Do I bring my habitation tax bill? Executed acte de vente? Get an attestation from the Mairie without entering the country?
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Do you know about the wayback machine internet archive? There are snapshots of this page going back to August 2018. These requirements have been there. The health insurance requirement is fairly new (2020?) It came in after Covid started I bet.
The August 2018 snapshot:
https://tinyurl.com/8f99wncz
this is all much ado about nothing...certainly bring paperwork or have things available on your phone if you feel more comfortable but it’s not new and unless you look like a hobo probably no one will ask for anything.
The August 2018 snapshot:
https://tinyurl.com/8f99wncz
this is all much ado about nothing...certainly bring paperwork or have things available on your phone if you feel more comfortable but it’s not new and unless you look like a hobo probably no one will ask for anything.
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I read an article in the Guardian this morning about this. Because British citizens are now third country nationals, it is new for them. Maybe that it is why it is news. https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...brexit-changes
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Proving financial means isn't that difficult, no need to get out all your retirement account statements, it is financial means to last your trip, not for the rest of your life or for moving there. Generally, it's around 125 euro per day, I think. Copy of a recent bank statement showing enough balance should do it. I don't know how credit cards work as you'd have to prove your limit, but maybe they are loose on that and think any credit card is ok.
However, these are the official rules that make it clear, I imagine they would be the same for France specifically in this case.
https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/sch...s-subsistence/
However, these are the official rules that make it clear, I imagine they would be the same for France specifically in this case.
https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/sch...s-subsistence/
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They seem to have left out several accommodation situations, most notably, what if your accommodations is your own secondary residence, but you are not staying beyond your Schengen limits (for a residence permit or other type of VISA)? I reviewed the link in french, but it seemed only to cover hosted stays. Do I bring my habitation tax bill? Executed acte de vente? Get an attestation from the Mairie without entering the country?