Do you know swedish language? HELP!
Jul 14th, 2006, 09:14 AM
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Do you know swedish language? HELP!
I want to wish my friend Happy birthday on swedish, like i wish you all the best, bla bla... Everything that comes on your mind...
Please help me
Tnx
Please help me
Tnx
Jul 14th, 2006, 09:28 AM
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quot;Grattis pa Fodelsedagen!", which is informal. If you want to send a hug, add: "kram" before your name.
Jul 14th, 2006, 12:58 PM
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Good translation, Parfym, although "dej" and "du" should be in lower case because, as far as I recall, Swedish, unlike German, does not begin nouns with caps unless they are proper names or honorifics. (Of course, the angstroms and unlauts are missing here too, but that's a limitation of the keyboard, not of the translator.)
Sorry if I'm being too nit-picky. I guess it's the librarian in me.
Sorry if I'm being too nit-picky. I guess it's the librarian in me.
Jul 14th, 2006, 01:14 PM
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Rebecka,
Thanks for the compliment."Du" och "Dej" absolutely
need to be in caps.
Unless of course, the Swedish Academy changed the rules since I grew up there and went to school there well into adulthood.
Thanks for the compliment."Du" och "Dej" absolutely
need to be in caps.
Unless of course, the Swedish Academy changed the rules since I grew up there and went to school there well into adulthood.
Jul 14th, 2006, 07:23 PM
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Well, Parfym, I don't know what the Academy taught you, but Swedish is my mother tongue and I have spoken and written it all my life. Interestingly, while searching for examples to prove my point, I realized that "dej" is more commonly spelled "dig" as you can see if you have a look at this Swedish web site on grammar:
http://www.fritext.se/svenska/mini.html
Scrolling down, please note the absence of caps in the list of pronouns (pronomen).
BTW, I know I've seen "dej" used in place of "dig" in Swedish. It looks more vernacular to me although they are both the same pronoun.
Hope you're not completely confused by now, travellover!
http://www.fritext.se/svenska/mini.html
Scrolling down, please note the absence of caps in the list of pronouns (pronomen).
BTW, I know I've seen "dej" used in place of "dig" in Swedish. It looks more vernacular to me although they are both the same pronoun.
Hope you're not completely confused by now, travellover!
Jul 14th, 2006, 08:24 PM
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Rebecka
I asked my wife this evening about the upper-case / lower-case for these pronouns. Although I speak Swedish, I can't write correctly, so I have to trust her about this subject.
She agrees that the lower-case would be used BUT we have a few friends (75ish well educated)they still use the upper-case. I guess things have changed over the years.
This is another use of uppper vs lower case. This is from an email from this person.
Vi skulle gärna höra ifrån Er och få reda på hur Ni har det. Så vi hoppas att Ni efter födelsefirandet låter oss höra av Er. Vi har ju en ny mailadress, som vi inte vet om Ni fått
Ni and Er are using upper-case words, similar to Du, etc..
So, this post isn't helping to clear this situation but it gives a good thought.
Blackduff
I asked my wife this evening about the upper-case / lower-case for these pronouns. Although I speak Swedish, I can't write correctly, so I have to trust her about this subject.
She agrees that the lower-case would be used BUT we have a few friends (75ish well educated)they still use the upper-case. I guess things have changed over the years.
This is another use of uppper vs lower case. This is from an email from this person.
Vi skulle gärna höra ifrån Er och få reda på hur Ni har det. Så vi hoppas att Ni efter födelsefirandet låter oss höra av Er. Vi har ju en ny mailadress, som vi inte vet om Ni fått
Ni and Er are using upper-case words, similar to Du, etc..
So, this post isn't helping to clear this situation but it gives a good thought.
Blackduff
Jul 14th, 2006, 08:49 PM
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Rebecka
Without trying to make a point, this was an email from a woman (40ish school teacher)gives a use of dej.
vi har inte bestmämt något för i sommar
åker med peter till ireland nästa lördag
han är med i något EU projekt och jag har möjlighet att följa med
kanske ringer dej i kväll
är så sugen på att prata med dej- min vän
1000000 kramar fråm bennedette
I'm sure I could find an example using dig too but it's only 6:30 this morning.
Cheers
Blackduff
Without trying to make a point, this was an email from a woman (40ish school teacher)gives a use of dej.
vi har inte bestmämt något för i sommar
åker med peter till ireland nästa lördag
han är med i något EU projekt och jag har möjlighet att följa med
kanske ringer dej i kväll
är så sugen på att prata med dej- min vän
1000000 kramar fråm bennedette
I'm sure I could find an example using dig too but it's only 6:30 this morning.
Cheers
Blackduff
Jul 15th, 2006, 03:40 AM
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"Hej (the person's name).
Jag vill onska Dej allt val, och den absolut finaste och basta fodelsedag Du nagonsin haft.
Puss och Kram fran,"
OK, I will put the umlauts in (and change "dej" till "dig" because as a foreigner I was taught that dej is too colloquial):
Hej (the person's name).
Jag vill önska dig allt väl, och den absolut finaste och bästa födelsedag du någonsin haft.
Puss och Kram från,
Jag vill onska Dej allt val, och den absolut finaste och basta fodelsedag Du nagonsin haft.
Puss och Kram fran,"
OK, I will put the umlauts in (and change "dej" till "dig" because as a foreigner I was taught that dej is too colloquial):
Hej (the person's name).
Jag vill önska dig allt väl, och den absolut finaste och bästa födelsedag du någonsin haft.
Puss och Kram från,
Jul 15th, 2006, 06:50 AM
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That is very interesting, Blackduff. Back in a more polite, formal age, I guess caps on pronouns would have been seen as good manners. Thanks for the info - it's always good learning something new.
Yes, elina, that is true about the angstrom "a" and the umlaut "a" and "o" - they really are separate letters. However, when I transcribe these letters using my American keyboard at work, I always have to add the diacritics to an existing letter.
In conclusion, I'll simply add: Det var roligt att diskutera svenska med er. Jag onskar er alla en trevlig sommar!
Yes, elina, that is true about the angstrom "a" and the umlaut "a" and "o" - they really are separate letters. However, when I transcribe these letters using my American keyboard at work, I always have to add the diacritics to an existing letter.
In conclusion, I'll simply add: Det var roligt att diskutera svenska med er. Jag onskar er alla en trevlig sommar!
Jul 15th, 2006, 07:44 AM
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Turn on your "NumLock" on your keyboard. Then push your "Alt" and press 132 on your number pad, it should turn out to be ä on your screen. The number 148 should be ö. Pressing the 134 it will give you å.
Maybe it won't on your machine but normally it will put these letters on the screen. If you try from #129 until #164 you should find a lot of accents, especially the French ones.
And a good fine summer too.
Blackduff
Turn on your "NumLock" on your keyboard. Then push your "Alt" and press 132 on your number pad, it should turn out to be ä on your screen. The number 148 should be ö. Pressing the 134 it will give you å.
Maybe it won't on your machine but normally it will put these letters on the screen. If you try from #129 until #164 you should find a lot of accents, especially the French ones.
And a good fine summer too.
Blackduff
Jul 20th, 2006, 02:15 PM
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Blackduff, thanks a lot. Lele must be in my language cuz it means sth like Gee (i'm not sure about the spelling), but I thought maybe it could have some meaning in swedish also...
tackar sa mycket ;o)
Greetings
tackar sa mycket ;o)
Greetings
