Do women drink pints in Irish pubs ?
Sep 6th, 2005, 06:45 AM
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Muck, half pints are definately not the norm even for over thirties such as myself 
I am a bit over thirty and do drink pints, shorts wine etc depending on the mood. On a nice summers day outside I will have a pint of Cider.
My aunties in their seventies don't drink pint, beer etc as women did not drink in pubs in their day. Tourists always seem to drink glasses of beer when I am in the West of Ireland and my pal just cant drink much and takes a glass at a time.
You will not be looked at twice with a pint in Ireland.
Cheers!
I am a bit over thirty and do drink pints, shorts wine etc depending on the mood. On a nice summers day outside I will have a pint of Cider.My aunties in their seventies don't drink pint, beer etc as women did not drink in pubs in their day. Tourists always seem to drink glasses of beer when I am in the West of Ireland and my pal just cant drink much and takes a glass at a time.
You will not be looked at twice with a pint in Ireland.
Cheers!
Sep 6th, 2005, 07:06 AM
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Also I guess it depends where you are drinking. Quiet country pub....Half pint.
Busy City centre pub... Pint
Busy City centre club...bottles, look out for the drink spikers !!
either way pints are fine if you want them
Muck
Busy City centre pub... Pint
Busy City centre club...bottles, look out for the drink spikers !!
either way pints are fine if you want them
Muck
Sep 6th, 2005, 07:11 AM
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"Its called Magners outside of Ireland."
SiobhanP - explain where that happens, please? I became a Bulmers addict in Dublin in 2003 and on returning to the states don't see it very often -but I've never seen Magners. My dad owns a liquor store in MA and can order me Bulmers by the case - I wonder if he can get Magners too?
And I can say I only saw half pints in Venice at the Irish pub, but I only remember pints in Ireland!
SiobhanP - explain where that happens, please? I became a Bulmers addict in Dublin in 2003 and on returning to the states don't see it very often -but I've never seen Magners. My dad owns a liquor store in MA and can order me Bulmers by the case - I wonder if he can get Magners too?
And I can say I only saw half pints in Venice at the Irish pub, but I only remember pints in Ireland!
Sep 6th, 2005, 08:03 AM
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I have seen it as Magners in Scotland and Paris with the same label just different name. I asked the bartender in paris and they said something about the name outside Ireland had to be changed for legal reasons???? Maybe it was a copyright prob with the name and its fine in the U.S. STill its exactly the same and when I forgot to ask for Magners last time the barman was irish and knew what it was when I asled for Bulmers anyway. Enjoy the bulmers!
Sep 6th, 2005, 09:07 AM
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Thanks to everyone!
Even though I'm over 50, I'll definitely be going for the pints. And being more of a lager person who occasionally enjoys a stout, the other beer recommendations were very helpful. I live near Philly and we have some Irish bars here as well. I just usually order a Harp and let it go at that. I'll have to briefly check something else out before we leave. I think I've seen Murphy's ???
(We'll not be in Dublin –no big urban cities – we're driving around the West and Southwest areas and flying in and out of Shannon.)
Even though I'm over 50, I'll definitely be going for the pints. And being more of a lager person who occasionally enjoys a stout, the other beer recommendations were very helpful. I live near Philly and we have some Irish bars here as well. I just usually order a Harp and let it go at that. I'll have to briefly check something else out before we leave. I think I've seen Murphy's ???
(We'll not be in Dublin –no big urban cities – we're driving around the West and Southwest areas and flying in and out of Shannon.)
Sep 6th, 2005, 09:46 AM
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Hi Ceezee,
I am a wine drinker from Ireland but let me tell you a story!!
A very good friend of my Mum's, who is 93 and as bright as a button, was called to her doctor's practice when she was 80 years old.
They had new doctors and wanted to give all their over 60's a medical.
She arrived and saw a nurse who asked her about diet, smoking and alcohol.
When they came to the alcohol Q it went like this:
Nurse: How much alcohol do you drink in a week?
Olivia: Well, I still take my bottle of Guiness every day as was prescribed by Dr Duggan.
Nurse: You drink a bottle of Guiness every day, don't you realise that this could be doing you harm?
Olivia: When I had my last child back in 1942 I lost a lot of blood and Dr Duggan (the Dr at the time) said I should drink a bottle of Guiness a day to replace it.
Nurse: Did you not think of stopping this when you felt better?
Olivia: He died before telling me to stop.
Nurse: Do you drink anything else?
Olivia: I like a G&T in the evening and wine, particularly with my Sunday lunch.
At this point the nurse got the new young Doctor.
He went over the story with her again and gave her a leaflet on an alcohol centre run by nun's outside Newry. He also arranged to have blood tests done which were all normal!
She keeps the leaflet and brings it out when people talk about the NHS and in particular when comparing it to 50 years ago.
She is still going strong but has given up the Guiness as it is a bit heavy.
Enjoy your pint!
I am a wine drinker from Ireland but let me tell you a story!!
A very good friend of my Mum's, who is 93 and as bright as a button, was called to her doctor's practice when she was 80 years old.
They had new doctors and wanted to give all their over 60's a medical.
She arrived and saw a nurse who asked her about diet, smoking and alcohol.
When they came to the alcohol Q it went like this:
Nurse: How much alcohol do you drink in a week?
Olivia: Well, I still take my bottle of Guiness every day as was prescribed by Dr Duggan.
Nurse: You drink a bottle of Guiness every day, don't you realise that this could be doing you harm?
Olivia: When I had my last child back in 1942 I lost a lot of blood and Dr Duggan (the Dr at the time) said I should drink a bottle of Guiness a day to replace it.
Nurse: Did you not think of stopping this when you felt better?
Olivia: He died before telling me to stop.
Nurse: Do you drink anything else?
Olivia: I like a G&T in the evening and wine, particularly with my Sunday lunch.
At this point the nurse got the new young Doctor.
He went over the story with her again and gave her a leaflet on an alcohol centre run by nun's outside Newry. He also arranged to have blood tests done which were all normal!
She keeps the leaflet and brings it out when people talk about the NHS and in particular when comparing it to 50 years ago.
She is still going strong but has given up the Guiness as it is a bit heavy.
Enjoy your pint!
Sep 6th, 2005, 10:58 AM
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Travelphile - I'm right in Worcester. To be honest - I've never ordered a Magners around here, but I see ads for it quite often. Where's your Dad's store - I'd love to pick up Bulmers - the real thing! [email protected]
Sep 6th, 2005, 11:57 AM
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celticdreamer,
have you tried Julio's Liquor store on Route 9 in Westboro? It's a huge place.
I know they sell 'hard cider' but I don't know what makes.
Happy hunting
http://www.juliosliquors.com/beer.htm
have you tried Julio's Liquor store on Route 9 in Westboro? It's a huge place.
I know they sell 'hard cider' but I don't know what makes.
Happy hunting
http://www.juliosliquors.com/beer.htm
Sep 6th, 2005, 02:28 PM
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Alya - thanks - ya know, I think I'm actually either related by blood or by marriage somehow to the familty that owns Julios. I haven't been down there in years.
I don't actually drink a lot of cider here, just because the ones I've had give me such a headache because of all the preservatives. So, I consider it a treat when I'm in Ireland or the UK. (Kind of like Schweppes Bitter Lemon - I could order it here, but I like it to be something special when I'm traveling.
I don't actually drink a lot of cider here, just because the ones I've had give me such a headache because of all the preservatives. So, I consider it a treat when I'm in Ireland or the UK. (Kind of like Schweppes Bitter Lemon - I could order it here, but I like it to be something special when I'm traveling.
Sep 7th, 2005, 03:13 AM
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Siobhan et al: intrigued by this Bulmers/Magners thing. When I was growing up, one of the main English cidermakers was Bulmers - from Somerset I think (or at least they made out they were). No idea if they are still going or not but I'd assume so. Recently here I've seen adverts for 'Magners Irish Cider'. Maybe they are 2 completely different companies called Bulmers, an English one & an Irish one, so the Irish one has to use a different name in Britain ?
Sep 7th, 2005, 03:27 AM
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Cambe, LOL, love your story!!! Thanks for sharing. I had a doctor like that also. "In a bit of pain are you?" or "stomach a bit off is it?" or "you seem to be a bit run down it seems"... it did seem no matter what the problem he would recommend a few glasses of ruby port. This was years ago of course.
Time went on and of course the new doctors had a fit about his medical advice. He lived to be about 90...and died as a passenger in an auto accident, not from old age mind you.
There is a hospital that has a plaque in his honor. Everytime I have seen this plaque it makes me smile. Smartest doctor I have ever known. Cheers!!!
Time went on and of course the new doctors had a fit about his medical advice. He lived to be about 90...and died as a passenger in an auto accident, not from old age mind you.
There is a hospital that has a plaque in his honor. Everytime I have seen this plaque it makes me smile. Smartest doctor I have ever known. Cheers!!!
Sep 7th, 2005, 06:46 AM
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celticdreams - its at the other end of the State in Lenoxdale (off the Lee exit on I90), so that's not very convenient for you!
However, since his distributor can get it, ask at whatever store you typically go to and I'm sure they can order it. He does quite a bit of special ordering for people that like things that it doesn't make sense for him to stock.
(For those wondering, liquor stores in MA sell beer and wine as well, that's not true in all states - like in NY where I live)
However, since his distributor can get it, ask at whatever store you typically go to and I'm sure they can order it. He does quite a bit of special ordering for people that like things that it doesn't make sense for him to stock.
(For those wondering, liquor stores in MA sell beer and wine as well, that's not true in all states - like in NY where I live)
Sep 7th, 2005, 11:33 AM
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Travelphile - Never even occurred to me to order some, maybe I'll try it the next time the girls are coming over from Ireland (hmmm - maybe they can just bring it with them....) I'll check out the local 'packy' and see what I can find.
Sep 7th, 2005, 12:37 PM
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The Bulmers thing:
HP Bulmer Limited was, until a couple of years ago, a totally independent company, based in England's Hereford, making practically nothing but cider. It was, by far, the world's largest real (ie gets you legless instantly) cider maker. And, year after year it won most British "company we'd most like to work for" awards - based partly on the acknowledged fact that Bulmers' products were intimately associated with the loss of 90% of British virginities (Babycham got the other 10).
In 1937, this slightly grand bunch of English squires funded a new cider business set up in Ireland's Clonmel, renaming it Bulmers of Clonmel. As in England, the products helped lubricate the relationships between Ireland's young men and women, though over the years HP Bulmer Limited increasingly diverted its interests into establishing operations in our larger former colonies, and Bulmers of Clonmel for a while became owned by Bulmers' local rival, Showerings (the Babycham people).
The rest is predictable. The Bulmer family lost interest in the British business, brought in non-family managers who lost packets in expansions into the US and Australia, and the company ended up being bought by Scottish and Newcastle Breweries, or whatever damnfool name it might have given itself recently.
Bulmers of Clonmel was passed from hand to hand, and ended up in the C+C company, the Irish mostly soft drinks company who make that ridiculous parody of tonic water the Irish poison their G+Ts with. It's now, BTW, CEO-ed by Maurice Pratt, who not only has the most unfortunate name of any quoted company CEO since Mr Daft ceased being CEO of the Coca Cola Company, but was in the late 1980s the most famous man in Ireland when he fronted his own (dire) ads for Quinnsworth, which was then Ireland's largest grocery chain. Tesco subsequently bought it, and got rid of the ads.
Bulmers of Clonmel have, as many have sussed, launched their distinctive brand of virgins' ruin in the UK as Magners, since HP Bulmer Limited retains the rights to the Bulmer name virtualy everywhere in the world outside the 26 counties.
See what you learn by browsing this site?
HP Bulmer Limited was, until a couple of years ago, a totally independent company, based in England's Hereford, making practically nothing but cider. It was, by far, the world's largest real (ie gets you legless instantly) cider maker. And, year after year it won most British "company we'd most like to work for" awards - based partly on the acknowledged fact that Bulmers' products were intimately associated with the loss of 90% of British virginities (Babycham got the other 10).
In 1937, this slightly grand bunch of English squires funded a new cider business set up in Ireland's Clonmel, renaming it Bulmers of Clonmel. As in England, the products helped lubricate the relationships between Ireland's young men and women, though over the years HP Bulmer Limited increasingly diverted its interests into establishing operations in our larger former colonies, and Bulmers of Clonmel for a while became owned by Bulmers' local rival, Showerings (the Babycham people).
The rest is predictable. The Bulmer family lost interest in the British business, brought in non-family managers who lost packets in expansions into the US and Australia, and the company ended up being bought by Scottish and Newcastle Breweries, or whatever damnfool name it might have given itself recently.
Bulmers of Clonmel was passed from hand to hand, and ended up in the C+C company, the Irish mostly soft drinks company who make that ridiculous parody of tonic water the Irish poison their G+Ts with. It's now, BTW, CEO-ed by Maurice Pratt, who not only has the most unfortunate name of any quoted company CEO since Mr Daft ceased being CEO of the Coca Cola Company, but was in the late 1980s the most famous man in Ireland when he fronted his own (dire) ads for Quinnsworth, which was then Ireland's largest grocery chain. Tesco subsequently bought it, and got rid of the ads.
Bulmers of Clonmel have, as many have sussed, launched their distinctive brand of virgins' ruin in the UK as Magners, since HP Bulmer Limited retains the rights to the Bulmer name virtualy everywhere in the world outside the 26 counties.
See what you learn by browsing this site?
Sep 7th, 2005, 12:46 PM
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PS: Caroline
HP Bulmer never made out they came from Somerset. They were proud to be associated with Hereford, and consistently referred to it.
But Coates (a cider company which subsequently merged with Gaymers and with Whiteways, was bought out by an anonymous brewery chain in the 1960s and formed for a while the nearest thing to opposition Bulmer had in Britain's cider market) had an unforgettable TV jingle ("Coates comes up from Somerset, where the cider (generally pronounced zoider) - apples grow"
I'd always assumed you were too young to remember it.
HP Bulmer never made out they came from Somerset. They were proud to be associated with Hereford, and consistently referred to it.
But Coates (a cider company which subsequently merged with Gaymers and with Whiteways, was bought out by an anonymous brewery chain in the 1960s and formed for a while the nearest thing to opposition Bulmer had in Britain's cider market) had an unforgettable TV jingle ("Coates comes up from Somerset, where the cider (generally pronounced zoider) - apples grow"
I'd always assumed you were too young to remember it.
Sep 7th, 2005, 01:31 PM
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Well, I see I'm a little bit late with this... I was curious about the whole Bulmers/Magners thing, so I did some googling. If you go to www.bulmers.ie, you’ll find the web site for the Irish entity, and at the bottom of the page you’ll find the Magners logo (essentially identical to the Bulmers logo) and it says “If you are from outside the Republic of Ireland please visit www.magners.ie”.
Whereas, if you go to www.bulmer.com, you’ll find the web site for the U.K. cider-making outfit named Bulmers.
But why google, when you can just wait a few minutes for the knowledgeable Fodorites (like flanneruk) to post?
Whereas, if you go to www.bulmer.com, you’ll find the web site for the U.K. cider-making outfit named Bulmers.
But why google, when you can just wait a few minutes for the knowledgeable Fodorites (like flanneruk) to post?
Sep 7th, 2005, 01:48 PM
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first of all, you can drink what you like without any fuss or strange looks.
however, talking culturally, no i don't think women generally drink pints. many older women do not due to the idea that a lady just does not do this. Younger women tend not to drink pints or 1/2 pints at all...most are seen drinking wine, smirnoff ice, archers or the like. perhaps lager in a bottle, but lager is more popular with lads.
Pint drinking women need not respond as i know that some do...however, a "pint" (including 1/2 pint varieties) is seen as your dad's drink among young people. the "masses" of british or irish young people (male or female) certainly do not drink stout or other non-lager beer...sad but true.
however, talking culturally, no i don't think women generally drink pints. many older women do not due to the idea that a lady just does not do this. Younger women tend not to drink pints or 1/2 pints at all...most are seen drinking wine, smirnoff ice, archers or the like. perhaps lager in a bottle, but lager is more popular with lads.
Pint drinking women need not respond as i know that some do...however, a "pint" (including 1/2 pint varieties) is seen as your dad's drink among young people. the "masses" of british or irish young people (male or female) certainly do not drink stout or other non-lager beer...sad but true.
Sep 7th, 2005, 01:56 PM
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Interesting cider trail - cider is a popular drink here in Summertime, but don't forget to at least try the Guinness, pint or half pint. In Ireland a half-pint is commonly referred to as a "glass". So, if, for example you ask for "a glass of cider or a glass of Guinness" you will get a half pint.
I am a female Guinness pint drinker, but appreciate that people new to the drink may find it heavy, sour, etc. If you find it sour - some people ask for "a dash of blackcurrant cordial" to sweeten it and, I know some older women who always added a bit of sugar (this is all needlesstosay frowned on by your real Guinness drinker) but might be worth trying if it helps to finish off that pint!
I am a female Guinness pint drinker, but appreciate that people new to the drink may find it heavy, sour, etc. If you find it sour - some people ask for "a dash of blackcurrant cordial" to sweeten it and, I know some older women who always added a bit of sugar (this is all needlesstosay frowned on by your real Guinness drinker) but might be worth trying if it helps to finish off that pint!
