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Oct 29th, 2015, 02:01 PM
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Detroit Lions Storm Into London...

Interesting article on the luxury hotel the sad sack Detroit Lions are staying in and their exploration of London itself - interesting that one called Harrods mainly a woman's store!

And why would London get stuck with the perennial pathetic Lions for such a Wembley show this Sunday? The NFl is trying to showcase its game - why send such limp rags over there?

Bring back Bobby Lane, Joe Schmidt and Alex Karras - I am so old I remember the last Lions NFL title - over Cleveland about 57-0 way back around 1957. Since then perrenial sad sacks with a few good seasons.

The Ford Family should give up and let someone competent run the team.
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Oct 29th, 2015, 02:02 PM
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http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nf...ndon/74745052/
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Oct 29th, 2015, 02:33 PM
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Every store is mainly a woman's store.
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Oct 29th, 2015, 02:51 PM
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Much rather see the Rugby match
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Oct 29th, 2015, 05:02 PM
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Well, no - the tailors on Savile Row are not mainly women's stores. Nor the many others specializing in bespoke clothes and shoes for men.
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Oct 29th, 2015, 07:01 PM
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Cars, beers, films, food, Coke.

The Amercian version of most things in life is watered down poop.

I actually like American Rugby. It seem to have rules that everyone understands, players, referees and fans. Maybe our rugby could achieve such heady heights one day.
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Oct 30th, 2015, 12:11 AM
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It seem to have rules that everyone understands,

Stop every 30 seconds, change whole team, repeat.
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Oct 30th, 2015, 12:51 AM
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Who are the Detroit Lions and when did they come to London?

For some childish reason our weather forecasters have decided to start calling bits of weather names, is this the first bit of wind? http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...of-storm-names
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Oct 30th, 2015, 01:06 AM
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Have they taken their own loo rolls with them like the last lot did?

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-34430305
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>>And why would London get stuck with the perennial pathetic Lions for such a Wembley show this Sunday? The NFl is trying to showcase its game - why send such limp rags over there?<<

Presumably nobody else would go?
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Oct 30th, 2015, 04:14 AM
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>>And why would London get stuck with the perennial pathetic Lions for such a Wembley show this Sunday?<<

Because Londoners wouldn't know the difference.
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Oct 30th, 2015, 05:41 AM
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Follow the money - any team doing well will fill a stadium, either at home or away in the States. Full stadiums translate into financial success for the host city.

I'm afraid London is destined to host some lower ranked NFL teams for a bit.
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Oct 30th, 2015, 06:14 AM
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They aren't the first this year. As I said upthread the NY Jets imported their own loo rolls a couple of weeks back when they were to play Miami Dolphins at Wembley.


Britons, not just Londoners, do follower NFL. Why is beyond me, but there are a lot of knowledgeable fans out there, who watch it on cable TV every week, and pay good money to see it live.


There is even a chance the Jaguars (whoever they are) may move permanently to London. Lord help us.

Give me rugby, either code, any day of the week. Played by real men without the need for body armour.
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Oct 30th, 2015, 06:50 AM
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It's similar to the fact that the last FIFA World cup in the US was the best attended ever, but still didn't make a major difference to the sport's status in America.

Lots of people will go and watch an NFL match in London: Expats, the curious who want a day out, the rare die hard fan - but overall the sport has little appeal here.

Some years ago there was a European league - Amsterdam, Edinburgh, possibly Frankfurt or Hamburg and the London Monarchs. I believe the Monarchs went out of business with average attendances below 6,000. Eventually the whole European league folded as it was losing about £30M a year.
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Oct 30th, 2015, 06:59 AM
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>>There is even a chance the Jaguars (whoever they are) may move permanently to London. Lord help us.<<

The people of Jacksonville can only hope.

My theory is that participation, at some level, in a sport helps it build a wide audience. American football doesn't have that in Europe. However, I can see football becoming a niche sport.

Basketball does have high participation rates, however, and a fair amount of popularity.
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Oct 30th, 2015, 07:08 AM
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"Tight end Eric Ebron ... until he realized "none of them clothes fit me because everybody in the U.K.'s 4-7.""

Is that true?
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Oct 30th, 2015, 08:41 AM
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"Tight end Eric Ebron ... until he realized "none of them clothes fit me because everybody in the U.K.'s 4-7.""

cold, I have not an idea what language the man is talking.
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Oct 30th, 2015, 08:57 AM
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"Is that true?"

If you're an American footballer, it probably does seem that way.

For Europeans: "4-7" is a jargon term in American clothes retailing for garments designed for children no longer toddlers. If you're the size of many "football" players in the US, ordinary UK M or L size sweaters and jackets probably DO look like that.

But there's a bit more to this.

- Sheer size is a virtue in American "football" it isn't in the real thing: New York Jets players are bigger than most New Yorkers: Chelsea players are (and look) fitter than most Londoners, but are about the same size.

- Sizes do change as you cross the Atlantic. My M&S sweatshirts are substantially tighter than apparent Lands' End or Old Navy equivalents a full size smaller.

- Though obesity levels in Britain are now about the same as in the US, the average obese person in the US is about 10 kg heavier than the average obese Briton.

- As a fatty, I've noticed since internet shopping took off that, to fit a full range of styles into the relatively small shops of SE England, the range of sizes available in physical stores increasingly omits the smallest and largest: more and more, I have to order my size online, and get it the following day. The current fashion for skinny fits adds to this problem: the classic fit version often needs going onto the web to order.

- Londoners - especially those living or working in the central boroughs, as well as those in other affluent parts of SE England - also tend to be substantially less obese than in the poorer parts of Britain.

Net: clothes on offer in central London shops will inevitably look small to American "footballers." Far more so than in Chicago: probably more so than in New York.
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Oct 30th, 2015, 09:08 AM
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I don't think the Lions are 'storming' anything - they are pretty bad, but then so are the Jags.

But re the games in general . . . The NFL started only playing one game a year at Wembley but now play three. Each year one of the three games is a Jaguar home game. I went to the Niner/Jags game two years ago.

Most of the games are complete sellouts within a few days of the tickets going on sale 8 or 9 months ahead. From my experience/anecdotal observation in 2013, nearly half the crowd is from continental Europe (LOTS of French and Germans) and the rest about equally Brits and Yanks. Ticket agencies were selling tix at several times face value.

There is a big 'NFL village' with all sorts of merchandise and food and a rally at Trafalgar Square and/or in Regent Street.

Last year the Raiders was one of the teams - very weird seeing the 'Black Hole' wandering freely around central London (I was in town the weekend of the Raider game so saw it first hand)
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Oct 30th, 2015, 11:46 AM
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Because the teams that don't suck have all their home games sold out.

Geez, you're really old enough to remember Bobby Layne? That's pretty dang ancient . . .

Dang, rugby is so dull. Plus, every time a ball carrier gets tackled, he looks like he's laying an egg in trying to get the ball to the dude behind him.
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