Day trips to Neuschwanstein?
Mar 6th, 2003, 08:20 PM
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My wife, a friend, and I rented a car and drove from downtown Munich to Füßen and returned via the Wieskirche, which is a small but beautiful church in the same area. I felt that we did the trip easier and quicker in a car. Driving was not bad. We left Munich after the morning rush hour and returned in the opposite direction to the evening going home crowd.
It was a very pleasant day, with all the convenience you can derive from having your own car. Were I to do it again, I would do it the same way.
It was a very pleasant day, with all the convenience you can derive from having your own car. Were I to do it again, I would do it the same way.
Mar 7th, 2003, 12:31 AM
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Do not agree with Bob except for flexibility of seeing other places (which can be a big plus). Depending on your desire for speed and weather, it can be an horrendous journey. Travelled back on autobahn counting over 40 trucks bumper to bumber in slow lane in sleety rain with middle lane pushing you along at about 160km - fun, not exactly!.
Direct train to Füssen from Munich - MUCH cheaper with BAyern ticket (cost less than the petrol). Do not have to look at maps especially as you come into city. Regular buses to castles from Füssen station. But yes, flexibility is lost.
Direct train to Füssen from Munich - MUCH cheaper with BAyern ticket (cost less than the petrol). Do not have to look at maps especially as you come into city. Regular buses to castles from Füssen station. But yes, flexibility is lost.
Mar 7th, 2003, 03:40 AM
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Used Panorama Tours for a day trip from Munich to Newschwanstein & Linderhof. We were satisfied with the time alloted at each place. The tour also stopped for a short shopping break in Oberamergau--this part I could have done without.
Mar 7th, 2003, 03:50 AM
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We drove Munich-Linderhof-Reutte-Hohenschwangau last June and didn't encounter any bumper to bumper trucks on that route. There were not many trucks at all in fact. But if the weather had been bad, it would have been less pleasant.
The Wieskirche is well worth seeing--we happened to be there when a service started up and got a nice organ concert.
But when we drove from Rothenburg to the Rhein a few days later, it was solid trucks in the slow lane the entire way. So we stayed in the fast lane at 170-180 kph. You can cover a lot of ground at those speeds. Fortunately we didn't hit any of those big tie-ups you hear about on that route.
The Wieskirche is well worth seeing--we happened to be there when a service started up and got a nice organ concert.
But when we drove from Rothenburg to the Rhein a few days later, it was solid trucks in the slow lane the entire way. So we stayed in the fast lane at 170-180 kph. You can cover a lot of ground at those speeds. Fortunately we didn't hit any of those big tie-ups you hear about on that route.
Mar 7th, 2003, 04:17 AM
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It's pretty simple to get there. Take Munich-Fussen direct train in the morning with the Bayern ticket (super cheap). Busses leave for the castles directly from the train station. It's only a 10 minute bus ride. And who knows, maybe you'll get mobbed by German schoolchildren on the way back and have to field questions about America, like I did 
Mar 7th, 2003, 08:22 AM
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I endorse the car method to Neuschwanstein because we had no trouble going or returning. The train ride is over 2 hours to Füßen each way.
We had more trouble finding the car in some spooky garage than we did in getting out there and back. My impression was based on the car trip only AFTER getting in the car. Granted we did not come back on the autobahn; we took country roads so to speak until we got close to Munich.
I suppose had I driven in sleet, the picture would be different. But that hazard is going to affect adversely any road, even in the United States.
Moreover, I am sure I would not want to walk up that hill to the entrance in a sleet storm!!
That is not very encouraging to hear about being accosted by German school kids. I have found by in large that German children are bullies at heart.
For a culture whose language is fully equipped with superficially polite forms of address (Sie for you when addressing for most people, and du for close friends and family), and virtually mandatory phrases like Mit freundlichen Grüßen and Sehr geehrter Herr und Frau, and sometimes titles a mile long, like Herr Doktor Professor, etc.,
the children are often rude, mocking, impertinent, and downright insulting toward other groups of people. They can also be cruel toward an isolated target.
I remember a bunch of them tauting an old man because he was wearing ear protectors. It was cold and this man was stooped and very old in body. These kids were saying things like "Ach meine Ohren sind kalt!" (My ears are cold.) And something that sounded to me like they were saying, Ach Mensch, meine Ohren sind mich abgefroren. Ich muss sie schutzen.(Oh man my ears have frozen off. I must protect them.) And they would clap their hands to their ears and then point and laugh at the old man who was struggling through the snow.
Nice people.
We had more trouble finding the car in some spooky garage than we did in getting out there and back. My impression was based on the car trip only AFTER getting in the car. Granted we did not come back on the autobahn; we took country roads so to speak until we got close to Munich.
I suppose had I driven in sleet, the picture would be different. But that hazard is going to affect adversely any road, even in the United States.
Moreover, I am sure I would not want to walk up that hill to the entrance in a sleet storm!!
That is not very encouraging to hear about being accosted by German school kids. I have found by in large that German children are bullies at heart.
For a culture whose language is fully equipped with superficially polite forms of address (Sie for you when addressing for most people, and du for close friends and family), and virtually mandatory phrases like Mit freundlichen Grüßen and Sehr geehrter Herr und Frau, and sometimes titles a mile long, like Herr Doktor Professor, etc.,
the children are often rude, mocking, impertinent, and downright insulting toward other groups of people. They can also be cruel toward an isolated target.
I remember a bunch of them tauting an old man because he was wearing ear protectors. It was cold and this man was stooped and very old in body. These kids were saying things like "Ach meine Ohren sind kalt!" (My ears are cold.) And something that sounded to me like they were saying, Ach Mensch, meine Ohren sind mich abgefroren. Ich muss sie schutzen.(Oh man my ears have frozen off. I must protect them.) And they would clap their hands to their ears and then point and laugh at the old man who was struggling through the snow.
Nice people.
Mar 10th, 2003, 07:04 AM
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Mike's Bike tour looks like a great way to get to Neuschwanstein, (you don't have to bike, you can ride in the bus) unfortunatly they do not run all season; they do not run during the winter or Oktoberfest when we were there.
We took the train, it was very easy; you don't have to worry about traffic, road maps, etc. We left Munich about 7am and had plenty of time to see both castles, and have lunch in one of the restraunts, and get back to Munich at a decent time.
We took the train, it was very easy; you don't have to worry about traffic, road maps, etc. We left Munich about 7am and had plenty of time to see both castles, and have lunch in one of the restraunts, and get back to Munich at a decent time.
Mar 11th, 2003, 10:47 PM
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Just wanted to clarify about Mike's Bike Tours. You don't cycle from Munich - you go in the bus, and then cycle around Swan Lake and the area below the castle. It's mostly flat, but it was very hot (& humid) when I was there in June - the swim in the lake was much appreciated. The hike up the gorge was definitely the most strenuous part, but worth it. The Bavarian Alps are so beautiful.
The swim, cycle and hike were all optional, but included in the tour price. There was also the option (for the braver souls) to go tandem parasailing off the mountains at additional cost.
The swim, cycle and hike were all optional, but included in the tour price. There was also the option (for the braver souls) to go tandem parasailing off the mountains at additional cost.
Mar 12th, 2003, 05:58 AM
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Bob, kids everywhere can be cruel. The group we ran into were hilarious, they made us sit by them on the bus and did all sorts of tricks for us, asked about America, and showed us their English grammar books.
