Carrying too much cash...Why risk it?
Jun 6th, 2006, 06:12 AM
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I think it is good idea to carry a second wallet. Actually, I have started to carry two wallets here in Bahrain (where Michael Jackson is currently staying). The second small wallet is to carry a couple of credit cards only. This is in order not to forget the card at the shop. Some times, the Cashier by mistake does not return back the card. With a credit card wallet it is much easier to check and to note if a card is missing. On July 6 will be going to Germany with the family and then Switzerland - therefore i will try to make sure my wallets are safe with me at all times. I have noted some good trausers at GANT shop with few pockets. Normally I would thought not suitable for 53 years old, more for the younger generation. May be because i have not tried them before. Now i am thinking to try some, since i do worry of losing my money and passport when travelling in a foreign country. It is always better to be safe than sorry.
Jun 6th, 2006, 03:44 PM
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I felt I had to respond. I'm currently the high bidder on three E-Bay auctions. The average price per Euro is probably around $131.276. These are all from the same seller so shipping is combined. the shipping costs will be $5.55 for all the Euros I purchase. The current rate for Bank of America is $136+- for a 1,ooo Euro purchase. I follow the Euros closely and I haven't seen them below $128.00 for quite a while. If J62 bought them for 127.55 I'd like to know where and when?? I have never had a bad transaction on E-Bay. I've bought over 2000 euros for this summers trip and the average price is probably around $1.26. Five years ago the rate was equal 1 for 1, I wish it was the same today
Jun 6th, 2006, 03:59 PM
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The rate I quoted is what it cost me at an ATM a week ago in Frankfurt airport.
BofA ATM card at DeutscheBank ATM, so $0.00 transaction fees.
the $1.36 rate quoted is likely to buy Euros in the US. The interbank rate today is $1.28/Euro, so in effect BofA is charging you >6% for the convenience of getting Euro in the US.
BofA ATM card at DeutscheBank ATM, so $0.00 transaction fees.
the $1.36 rate quoted is likely to buy Euros in the US. The interbank rate today is $1.28/Euro, so in effect BofA is charging you >6% for the convenience of getting Euro in the US.
Jun 6th, 2006, 06:56 PM
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Not sure I understand your question angeliki. When I quoted $255 I was rounding off.
If you want to know the details to the last penny.
Monday 5/29, 12noon
200 Euro = $254.76, or exactly 127.38 per 100 Euro.
I'll split the difference between 1.2738 and your # 1.2739.
If you want to know the details to the last penny.
Monday 5/29, 12noon
200 Euro = $254.76, or exactly 127.38 per 100 Euro.
I'll split the difference between 1.2738 and your # 1.2739.
Jun 10th, 2006, 03:53 AM
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I'm trying to compare the costs of making purchases when I'm abroad in Germany and Austria. If I use my Citibank credit card, the bank charges me 3% for each transaction. I wonder how that compares with the following two alternatives. The first is to bring U.S. cash to Europe and purchase Euros at a local bank. The second is to just bring my debit card and stick it into a local ATM. Which is the cheaper approach, do you think, for buying $500 worth of Euros?
Jun 10th, 2006, 05:43 AM
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ion, there are many many posts on this forum about ways to get money abroad, maybe you might read some of the most recent ones to get ideas.
However, the idea of taking hundreds of dollars in cash abroad to exchange at a bank for euro to avoid your CC's 3 pct fee is very bad. Besides, you'll pay more than 3 pct to do that, a bank isn't going to give them to you for no cost. I'd guess the bank's rate will be at least 6 pct over, if not more, and you'll have to find one that will be willing to do that for you, during its hours.
Use your debit card at an ATM.
However, the idea of taking hundreds of dollars in cash abroad to exchange at a bank for euro to avoid your CC's 3 pct fee is very bad. Besides, you'll pay more than 3 pct to do that, a bank isn't going to give them to you for no cost. I'd guess the bank's rate will be at least 6 pct over, if not more, and you'll have to find one that will be willing to do that for you, during its hours.
Use your debit card at an ATM.
Jun 10th, 2006, 12:03 PM
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I loved the story about the man who put his card in the receipt printer. It reminds me of when I tried to pay for my car parking fee after being in Scotland for a week. I put my credit card in the slot where I should have put my parking receipt and it got stuck. I could see it and could have gotten it with a pair of plyers. Unfortately no one in the secure part of the airport had plyers. Finally with a plastic knife and fork I was able to fish it out.
Back to the subject. I travel with one ATM card, American Express (to earn Hilton Honors points) and a Mastercard. I like to charge as much as I can so I get points. I don't carry much change because my DH thinks foreign money looks like play money and spends it accordingly.
Back to the subject. I travel with one ATM card, American Express (to earn Hilton Honors points) and a Mastercard. I like to charge as much as I can so I get points. I don't carry much change because my DH thinks foreign money looks like play money and spends it accordingly.
Jun 10th, 2006, 12:09 PM
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I alos tend to charge most things - actually get a more favorable exchange rate on my credit card than when I use ATM - but reflecting on an earlier post who was asking about charge vs taking cash because his card charges 3% - then he mentioned the amount of $500 - so we are taling about $15? In which case I say - do which ever seems most convenient - not worth sweating it to me for $15
Jun 11th, 2006, 02:37 AM
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I did some further research with my bank, Bank of America. For each withdrawal from a foreign ATM, they will charge me 1% of the transaction plus "the international ATM fee" of $5.00. I can avoid the $5.00 fee (but not the 1%) if I use one of their network partners such as Deutsche Bank.
As for the exchange rate, they use the Visa people to compute that, so it should be the same as for my Visa credit card at any particular point in time.
(This is what the customer service people told me, but they seemed a little tentative. The young man on the phone called the German partner "douche bank."
As for the exchange rate, they use the Visa people to compute that, so it should be the same as for my Visa credit card at any particular point in time.
(This is what the customer service people told me, but they seemed a little tentative. The young man on the phone called the German partner "douche bank."
Jun 11th, 2006, 03:03 AM
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>"douche bank." ;-)
I have a Deutsche Bank Sparcard. They don't cost anything for a german resident.
When I use this card abroad (partner bank), they don't carge anything!. No fees at all. The exchange rate has up to now always been the official exchange rate for buying foreign stock. ("wholsale rate". That's about 0.25% above the "real" rate. Not too bad at all!
I have a Deutsche Bank Sparcard. They don't cost anything for a german resident.
When I use this card abroad (partner bank), they don't carge anything!. No fees at all. The exchange rate has up to now always been the official exchange rate for buying foreign stock. ("wholsale rate"
. That's about 0.25% above the "real" rate. Not too bad at all!
Jun 11th, 2006, 04:10 AM
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I checked with Bank of America about buying foreign currency before I leave the U.S. If I buy over $1000 total in currencies, there are no transaction or delivery charges -- just the exchange rate. On 6/11 they quoted me Euro/$ of 1.33240, or about 5% more than the "middle market" rate of 1.26380 quoted on the Internet the same day.
So the piece of the puzzle I am still missing is this: Suppose I used my Visa credit card on 6/11 to make a purchase, or my Visa debit/ATM card on 6/11 to make an overseas withdrawal, what exchange rate would Visa use -- how would it compare with 1.33240? I'll see if I can wring the answer from the Visa folks ...
So the piece of the puzzle I am still missing is this: Suppose I used my Visa credit card on 6/11 to make a purchase, or my Visa debit/ATM card on 6/11 to make an overseas withdrawal, what exchange rate would Visa use -- how would it compare with 1.33240? I'll see if I can wring the answer from the Visa folks ...
Jun 11th, 2006, 04:41 AM
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In my last message I wrote my fraction wrong -- I should have said $/Euro = 1.33240, etc.
In any case, I checked the Visa website and it said that their exchange rate for 6/11 is $1.27/Euro -- which is virtually the "middle market" rate quoted above.
So from all the foregoing, I conclude that a $1000 purchase abroad would cost me:
5% = $50 if I buy cash ahead of time.
3% = $30 if I use my Visa credit card.
1% + $5 = $15 If I use a non-network ATM withdrawal
1% = $10 if I use a network ATM withdrawal.
In any case, I checked the Visa website and it said that their exchange rate for 6/11 is $1.27/Euro -- which is virtually the "middle market" rate quoted above.
So from all the foregoing, I conclude that a $1000 purchase abroad would cost me:
5% = $50 if I buy cash ahead of time.
3% = $30 if I use my Visa credit card.
1% + $5 = $15 If I use a non-network ATM withdrawal
1% = $10 if I use a network ATM withdrawal.
Jun 11th, 2006, 02:20 PM
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Let me throw another quirk into this discussion. Most of the Euros I've purchased on E-Bay have been paid for with Pay-Pal, using my British Airways Visa card. You accumulate miles for future trips, this also counts for something. I guess it all revolves around what you're comfortable with.
Jun 11th, 2006, 02:55 PM
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I was in Germany in May and just got back. My friend, German, had a credit card and a EuroCard (a debit card.) Her banker assured her she should use both. Well, we never found a place in southern Germany that took either!!
But I still would be interested in a German debit card. Can an American get one??
But I still would be interested in a German debit card. Can an American get one??
Jun 11th, 2006, 09:30 PM
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No one has mentioned that because of increased fraud, some U.S. banks (I use Wells Fargo)are not allowing ATM withdrawals in Great Britain. This may be occurring in other countries as well.
Luckily, I had read an article about it in a newspaper right before my trip, so I took extra pounds. I would have been in bad shape otherwise.
I went into my Wells Fargo branch, where it was confirmed that the bank was having big ATM problems in some countries in Europe. Customers were coming home to empty checking accounts.
I was told I could use my ATM card in Great Britain to get a cash advance, and the fees would be waived, but I didn't want to have to try to explain all this to a bank teller in Scotland or Wales.
Luckily, I had read an article about it in a newspaper right before my trip, so I took extra pounds. I would have been in bad shape otherwise.
I went into my Wells Fargo branch, where it was confirmed that the bank was having big ATM problems in some countries in Europe. Customers were coming home to empty checking accounts.
I was told I could use my ATM card in Great Britain to get a cash advance, and the fees would be waived, but I didn't want to have to try to explain all this to a bank teller in Scotland or Wales.
