Carry-on baggage banned by Pan Am

Sep 27th, 2001, 12:08 PM
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Carry-on baggage banned by Pan Am

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...ory?coll=orl%2

The article notes that other major U.S. airlines, including Delta, US Airways, Southwest and Continental, said they had no plans to curb carry-on bags.

The article also notes that John Nadolny, the company's vice president, said that customer reaction to Pan Am's move was mostly favorable.

What do you think? Is banning all carry-on luggage going too far in our quest to eliminate all risk? Or is it a good idea?

(While I like having some carry-on luggage in case my checked luggage is lost or misrouted, I've also never had any checked luggage lost and only had it misrouted a couple times so, while I don't think a ban like this is necessary, it also wouldn't bother me all that much.)
 
Sep 27th, 2001, 12:11 PM
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Capo, do they really mean "all" carryon bags? What do they have in mind? How is one to travel with a baby? What about laptops? What about my purse and my meds?

 
Sep 27th, 2001, 12:24 PM
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Cindy, the article says that Pan Am now allows passengers to carry on only wallets, purses and, for those traveling with infants, diaper bags. But that's it.

All other bags, such as briefcases, laptop computers, backpacks and even fanny packs, must be checked.
 
Sep 27th, 2001, 12:26 PM
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This is ridiculous. You have to allow some carryon luggage. I can't travel without my messenger bag full of books, magazines, crossword puzzles, etc. They have already stopped food service on some flights. What are people supposed to do with their free time? I can't just sit there and inspect my manicure for 5 hours.
 
Sep 27th, 2001, 12:39 PM
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Well, I guess I am lucky that I never have a need to use that carrier any more.
I sure hope the others don't follow.

Can you imagine flying with a kid that has no toys?
Generally, most get out of their diapers at 2, 3 at the most. What fun.
I know I don't want to travel with mine that way.
 
Sep 27th, 2001, 12:48 PM
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Capo--

Pan Am?
 
Sep 27th, 2001, 12:57 PM
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ron
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Pan Am indeed? Next time I fly out of Gary, Indiana or Bangor, Maine, I'll be sure to remember this. Pan Am is now a tiny regional airline that does not fly to Europe.
 
Sep 27th, 2001, 01:15 PM
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Capo, thanks for clearing that up.

If I had my choice of two carriers, and one allowed carry-on bags and one did not, I'd go with the one without carry-on bags. I'd put a book in my purse. Imagine how quickly you could deplane without carry-on baggage, not to mention the peace of mind from the security.
 
Sep 27th, 2001, 01:26 PM
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Well, Cindy, I'd choose the one that allowed carryons. I don't believe that they slow down deplaning much, it seems that once the first few people get off, things flow pretty smoothly. Personally, having had luggage go astray a few times, I'm willing to go the extra trouble of lugging a carryon rather than risk loss, which of course will get greater if more stuff is checked. I would absolutely never check my briefcase or laptop.

Limiting carry-ons would make security screening faster, but I'm not convinced that it would impact an individual who was determined to smuggle something onboard.
 
Sep 27th, 2001, 01:32 PM
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Am I the only one that brings a change of clothes in a carry on in case checked baggage is delayed or lost? Not easy to fit into a purse. That aside, a good sized book will take up a lot of room, not to mention a travel guide, money, and ID. I'm also not quite clear as to why purses are safe and backpacks are not. Count me as a thumbs down on the "no carry ons" rule but a thumbs up on limiting carry ons.
 
Sep 27th, 2001, 03:44 PM
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One of my hair-brained ideas (and I do have a lot of them) is that they ought to have separate lines for people willing to travel with no carry-on baggage except a small purse. The "Express" line, so to speak, like in the supermarket. People with big wheeled suitcases that need a hand search can wait forever in the regular line, while the Express people get priority.

I think the only real security benefit of limiting carry-on bags is that you can keep lines down, but you can take the time to search the small amount that is carried on board very thoroughly.
 
Sep 28th, 2001, 07:12 AM
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Joanne and Vita, I definitely agree with you both! There are certain things that some of us absolutely need to carry on the plane with us, particularly for long flights. I have various items that always come one board with me, such as various medications (both prescription and OTC) that I need with me, water to take them with, specific snacks to deal with low blood sugar, contact lens paraphernalia, eyeglasses, retainer, etc. Having had luggage go astray before, it is extremely important that I have all of my immediate necessities, including a change of clothes, in my carry on. I would not fly if I were not able to take a carry on with me...
 
Sep 28th, 2001, 07:23 AM
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Before you folks get all panic stricken about carry on baggage check with the airline directly. The one's I've checked all allow carryon's but do be prepared to have them searched. Use common sense about what you carryon too, no manicure scissors, etc. They can go in checked luggage. What airlines need to do is limit carry on to only one bag, a relatively small one, not a large suitcase that fills up an entire bin.
 
Sep 28th, 2001, 08:17 AM
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If true, I bet you will see a lot of photographers avoiding the heck out of Pan Am.
 
Sep 28th, 2001, 08:35 AM
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Pan Am is a tiny local airline that ferries gamblers to Nassau
They bought the name Pan Am and thats about all that remains of the once great airline

Boris
 
Sep 28th, 2001, 08:52 AM
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If I recall correctly, didn't easyJet offer customers a reduction this past Spring for not requiring checked baggage service?
 
Sep 28th, 2001, 08:52 AM
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Cindy, no matter how fast your line is, the plane will not leave until the other line is on board, and both lines will land at the same time. You might get to sit for a few minutes longer than the line with carry-on luggage, but I don't know that it would be any more pleasant than it is now.
 
Sep 28th, 2001, 09:10 AM
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Can you imagine asking a lawyer to check his/her briefcase? And, I'm not about to check my camera and film. Sorry, Pan Am, not flying with you in the future.
 
Sep 28th, 2001, 11:22 AM
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No Pan Am for me, and for any carrier that follows this moronic ban. If american airlines come down to this level of stupidity, then its time for road trips and a ban of leisure travel
 
Sep 28th, 2001, 12:04 PM
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Here's an interesting article in the recent Seattle Weekly, entitled "Tomorrow's terror."

http://www.seattleweekly.com/feature...ws-stern.shtml

I thought Mark Melcher's comments were especially interesting, as well as point #1.
 

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