caroline_venezia

Sep 15th, 2013, 09:22 AM
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Caroline, I really enjoyed Phil's blog. Will try to join his facebook page so as to keep up!
I have been doing TEFL since the 70s. Have done part-time, full-time contracts, private classes, kids, high school, university, you name it! These days I'm in Texas where TEFL is a completely different story from UK and Europe and have pretty much 'retired'!!
I keep up with TEFL through my daughter who has worked for International House in Costa Rica, Buenos Aires and is now in Ecuador. I find the whole language-learning thing really interesting and I'm enjoying reading about your experiences.
I'm especially envious of you living in Venice with all that art and music around you. Phil's blog is excellent. It's so important to take the chance of doing something you really want to do instead of staying on the treadmill.
Good luck to you.
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Sep 16th, 2013, 11:12 AM
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Thanks Ann. My students so far have all been Italian, unless you count the very few kids in my high school classes who were born elsewhere (mainly eastern Europe). This year my contracted teaching hours will be 85 per month - then there are all the hours' prep on top.

Gertie, thanks for those kind words about DH's blog, and your encouragement!
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Sep 17th, 2013, 01:38 AM
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oh, 20 hours a week is quite a lot, when you add in all the preparation as well. Are they all different standards? I have a friend that started learning italian at the same time that I did, but decided to move over to doing a TEFL course and now teaches in Cornwall.

no sure how much work she gets though as non-english speakers are a bit thin on the ground.
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Sep 17th, 2013, 02:33 PM
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I'm another fan of the blog...... check every other day or so. (That's so I won't be
disappointed since he doesn't post every day.)
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Sep 18th, 2013, 09:48 AM
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just caught up with the blog - I've bookmarked it this time so I don't lose it. Great writing by Phil - miei complimenti a lui. I was with you at the short film festival, on the alilaguna, and on the campo watching his fight with the frenchman. Bravo!
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Sep 27th, 2013, 11:14 AM
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Ann, yes, different levels & also types of classes. To start with, the good news is I only have 8 classes totalling 12.5 hours, although nearly all quite high level &/or exam-oriented so will need a good amount of prep. The less good news is they're spread over every evening Mon-Fri and the earliest I finish is 8.30pm - but that's the price I pay for not wanting to teach kids! Later there'll be mornings in high schools as well. Mm, I'd imagine not too many potential customers in your part of the world.

Thanks both for the nice comments about the blog! You can sign up to be sent an email whenever there's a new posting.
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Sep 27th, 2013, 11:58 PM
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Happy to see we can sign on for the blog by email now - highly recommended!

http://jonesesavenezia.blogspot.co.uk/
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Sep 28th, 2013, 07:19 AM
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mmm - it still wants me to sign in via gmail.

Evening teaching seems a bit of a drag, though i suppose that most students work during the day and it leaves the rest of the time for the prep! Are the italians good students? our teachers at the language school in Rome were most surprised that our english AS level students were not wholly dedicated to the course and their homework. [Actually i was rather surprised too as it was a fantastic opportunity to improve their italian]. The impression I get, contrary to what one might think, is that italians are very serious about education and are keen to study.

is that your experience?
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Nov 27th, 2013, 01:21 PM
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Ann, yes, IME so far I'd say that Italians in general are still more serious about education - and, probably, more serious generally - than British people taken as a whole. My students are mixed - amongst the evening classes, most are very keen adults/teenagers and I enjoy the B2 & C1 exam prep classes the most (of course, after conversation classes which aren't really like working . Among the less advanced teenagers in the evening, though, there can still be a bit of an 'eye-rolling' type attitude - I assume they are there due to some combination of parental pressure & feeling they need support to keep up or do well at school. In actual schools, in the morning, some are fine while others have a propenderance of kids who are probably keen to learn the subjects `which interest them, but don't think they need to learn English.

Btw, for anyone who'd like to read more about our experience, see the latest news here - http://jonesesavenezia.blogspot.it/
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Dec 21st, 2013, 01:35 AM
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Hi Caroline,

i'd heard rumours about the book but not seen a picture of it yet - and there it is. Congrats to your DH, and to you too for supporting the new author.

due to our mega trip I've missed loads of my italian lessons so i will have to work extra hard in the next half terms before we go to Italy. Had i mentioned that i am having another week at a language school with my italian class? This time it's Sorrento, where as well as attending classes in the morning, and doing trips in the afternoon, we will be staying with families, so I'm hoping that that will work wonders for my spoken italian.

fingers crossed!
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Dec 26th, 2014, 02:32 AM
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caroline - i just came back to this thread in th hope that you check fodors sometime. Our italian class is due to visit venice for a week in February 2015 [the week beginning the 7th] and I wondered if you fancied meeting up.

you may of course be fed up with "friends" wanting to interrupt your schedule but on the off chance you fancy cup of coffee somewhere, I'd love to make contact while we are there. We will be at the language school every morning [the same one that I think you studied at for some time] but will finish at about 12. we will have excursions some days but as I've seen quite a lot of Venice previously, I am hoping to strike off by myself some afternoons. including a trip to Padua.

anyway, i hope that things are still going well for you in Venice, and buon Natale!
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Dec 26th, 2014, 05:01 AM
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Interesting thread I'd never seen before.

What a nice perk of an Italian course, Madama annhig. An interesting prep for the trip would be to read a fascinating novel, A Stopover in Venice, by the American writer Kathryn Parker. About a woman married to a famous man who spends some time in Venice and discovers all sorts of things about herself.
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Dec 26th, 2014, 02:08 PM
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thanks for the recommendation, Don. I'll look out for it in the library. The college primarily runs these trips for the benefit of the 16-18 year olds doing italian for AS/A level or the IB, but then 3 years ago they had the idea to include us oldies too. it seems to work pretty well - the kids are great fun and we provide a touch of gravitas for the classes.
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Dec 27th, 2014, 06:01 AM
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I'm getting inspired to resume ny study of Italian -- and also appreciate the book rec.
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Dec 27th, 2014, 08:00 AM
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BTW, there's a fascinating backstory to A Stopover in Venice. I didn't know about the backstory before I'd read the book -- and I'm glad I didn't know in advance -- but if anyone does read it and can't find the backstory, let me know and I'll tell you where to look.
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Dec 28th, 2014, 02:30 AM
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and a mystery as well - first to find the book, I think. I'm going to the library tomorrow so I'll see if they've got it or can get it for me.

annw - you may have mentioned it before but I don't remember - have you studied italian for long? I seem to have reached a bit of a plateau - when I am there i make progress but slip back again when I come home. I suppose it's my age and lack of opportunities to practice when I get home. one lesson a week really isn't enough.
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Dec 28th, 2014, 01:40 PM
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Hi Ann! I never visit Fodor's these days - got put off by the the posers who just haunt the board to make themselves feel big by putting other people down - but apparently Christie mentioned to DH that you had left a message. It would be great to meet up - we will be working hard again by then, but I really hope we can work something out. If you look at DH's blog (address above), there is an email address there by which you can make contact.

General update for anyone interested - after 2 years in the pricey Santo Stefano flat, we moved to a much more economical flat in a 1950s workers' condomimium near the station, on a long-term (3+2) lease. It's not very Venetian but it is very Italian, and we have a lovely communal garden as well as a small balcony. Although teaching is very badly paid we are now actually turning work away and aspire to a proper holiday - somewhere else - next summer!
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Dec 28th, 2014, 01:48 PM
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Caroline… how nice to hear from you! I've been following Philip's blog forever…. but there have been no entries for the last two months. Has he given it up? Or perhaps I have a wrong address? Anyway, I"ve thoroughly enjoyed following your adventure.
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Dec 28th, 2014, 03:11 PM
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And Caroline neglected to mention that they are now true Venetians, having obtained a cat, one Mimi.

Very Bohemian!
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Dec 28th, 2014, 03:51 PM
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Wonderful updates!

Annhig -- yet another computer change so I will be getting a new Rosetta Stone disk, I think.

I've tried classes, private lessons, software. I get no where without constant practice -- with the software and a goal (March 2015 trip in this case) I think I will be able to stumble along!
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