Can I share my seat in Business Class?
Dec 12th, 2006, 06:50 PM
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The only traveling I did at that age was in the back seat of a Volkswagen bus with 5 other people (hey, almost like coach) so I think they are already very privileged to be flying to Europe as is.
Dec 12th, 2006, 07:06 PM
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Yes, I can only add that I've been seated at the back of the plane and at the front. I prefer the front. But when I was that age and if it was the only way to get to europe, I would've been happy if my parents had duck-taped me to the wing.
Dec 12th, 2006, 08:43 PM
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I would take the business class seats for my husband and I and enjoy every minute of it and let my kids visit us once to have incentive for future that by working hard they will also experience the same. Kids at this age are probably just checking girls/boys their own age in the plane rather than where their seats are. Have a great trip.
Dec 13th, 2006, 01:04 AM
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I can just imagine the indignation on <b>both</b> sides of the curtain if you pulled a stunt like this...too cheap to buy BC seats for the kids but wanting them to "experience it" anyway comes to mind.
BUT since you paid for the flight perhaps that makes it OK.
BUT since you paid for the flight perhaps that makes it OK.
Dec 13th, 2006, 02:13 AM
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Ah, someone obviously had a similar question. According to the BA website,
"Children must not visit their parents in a higher cabin unless permission has been granted by Cabin Crew."
There's a whole procedure on what they call Split Families (yikes!)
http://www.britishairways.com/travel...=split+seating
Your kids would be old enough not to require special hand-over with FAs.
Just make sure your kids don't spoil the experience...
"This means that if a child (aged 12 - 15 years) misbehaves or is upset, the same procedure applies as set out above i.e. If children misbehave or become upset a member of the crew will request the parent/guardian to assist, and as a last resort may also request them to downgrade in order to seat together. (this action would be taken for the child's benefit.)"
Though this is the BA policies, so you should check with the airline you'll be flying.
"Children must not visit their parents in a higher cabin unless permission has been granted by Cabin Crew."
There's a whole procedure on what they call Split Families (yikes!)
http://www.britishairways.com/travel...=split+seating
Your kids would be old enough not to require special hand-over with FAs.
Just make sure your kids don't spoil the experience...
"This means that if a child (aged 12 - 15 years) misbehaves or is upset, the same procedure applies as set out above i.e. If children misbehave or become upset a member of the crew will request the parent/guardian to assist, and as a last resort may also request them to downgrade in order to seat together. (this action would be taken for the child's benefit.)"
Though this is the BA policies, so you should check with the airline you'll be flying.
Dec 13th, 2006, 04:06 AM
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Thank you W9London for some good advice.
Caroline - the "kids" are 17 and 18 - they don't need "care."
And actually, they are quite happy to sit by themselves in coach. They just wanted a peak at Business Class.
Caroline - the "kids" are 17 and 18 - they don't need "care."
And actually, they are quite happy to sit by themselves in coach. They just wanted a peak at Business Class.
Dec 13th, 2006, 04:16 AM
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If all they want is a quick peek, I don't think that would be a problem. They might actually get that peek as they pass through business on their way to cattle class when they board.
But if they want to have a chance to try out the seats, play with the video system, etc., I doubt that would go over well. However, if you must, the best time to do so, IMO, would be just after meal service has been cleared away, when people tend to spend a bit of time using the restrooms and re-settling themselves for a nap or movies. For about 10 minutes or so after meals, there's a flurry of activity (at least, that's been my experience in transatlantic biz class) and your kids could probably slip in and out without attracting much notice.
But if they want to have a chance to try out the seats, play with the video system, etc., I doubt that would go over well. However, if you must, the best time to do so, IMO, would be just after meal service has been cleared away, when people tend to spend a bit of time using the restrooms and re-settling themselves for a nap or movies. For about 10 minutes or so after meals, there's a flurry of activity (at least, that's been my experience in transatlantic biz class) and your kids could probably slip in and out without attracting much notice.
Dec 13th, 2006, 04:21 AM
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Historytraveler: "But when I was that age and if it was the only way to get to europe, I would've been happy if my parents had duck-taped me to the wing"
Thanks, historytraveler. Now next flight we're all gonna have to take a peek at the wings, just to see what - or whom - we might find out there....
Thanks, historytraveler. Now next flight we're all gonna have to take a peek at the wings, just to see what - or whom - we might find out there....
Dec 13th, 2006, 04:34 AM
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W9London; that's interesting. I didn't know there was a policy for this. They say that a child under 5 has to sit with the parents. If you ask me, children under 12 should sit with their parents too.
When they're 17 and 18 I wouldnt hesitate to let them fly economy while the parents are in business.
When they're 17 and 18 I wouldnt hesitate to let them fly economy while the parents are in business.
Dec 13th, 2006, 04:45 AM
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Canterbury,
I hope that you have a great trip. Howver, I think your kids will have to take their "peek" as they walk through BC to their seats. When we've flown BC on AA, the attendants have been very strict about not letting anyone from the other cabins up front.
I hope that you have a great trip. Howver, I think your kids will have to take their "peek" as they walk through BC to their seats. When we've flown BC on AA, the attendants have been very strict about not letting anyone from the other cabins up front.
Dec 13th, 2006, 05:38 AM
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American Airlines announces every hour that you must use the bathroom in your ticketed cabin. Trying to use a real seat instead of a toilet seat seems to be pushing the limit even more.
Those American Airlines airmarshalls will accuse your kids of being terrorists if they try to get into business class.
They probably will land the plane in Canada and your children will be taken off the flight.
But in the meantime, enjoy Europe.
Those American Airlines airmarshalls will accuse your kids of being terrorists if they try to get into business class.
They probably will land the plane in Canada and your children will be taken off the flight.
But in the meantime, enjoy Europe.
Dec 13th, 2006, 05:49 AM
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Two more things:
American Airlines does not have curtains that seperate the different classes. They removed them after 9-11 and the bean-counters at AA won't let them put them back. (Money savings)
Flights from the U.S. to Europe are usually night flights and that means the "Fasten Seat Belt" sign stays on all night long. If too many people are stretching their legs after the meal, the flight attendants will announce loudly, the pilot has not turned off the fasten seat belt sign.
One more thing, according to comments on www.airlinequality.com, the food in coach on AA in inedible, so bring a few munchies for the kids--but no beverages.
Also, bring earphones from home for the kids so they don't have to pay for them in coach. You won't have to worry about PG or R rated movies on American Airlines. Everything is Disney oriented--even for adults. Yes, American charges for earphones on international flights. Bet you didn't know buses cross the Atlantic Ocean, too.
American Airlines does not have curtains that seperate the different classes. They removed them after 9-11 and the bean-counters at AA won't let them put them back. (Money savings)
Flights from the U.S. to Europe are usually night flights and that means the "Fasten Seat Belt" sign stays on all night long. If too many people are stretching their legs after the meal, the flight attendants will announce loudly, the pilot has not turned off the fasten seat belt sign.
One more thing, according to comments on www.airlinequality.com, the food in coach on AA in inedible, so bring a few munchies for the kids--but no beverages.
Also, bring earphones from home for the kids so they don't have to pay for them in coach. You won't have to worry about PG or R rated movies on American Airlines. Everything is Disney oriented--even for adults. Yes, American charges for earphones on international flights. Bet you didn't know buses cross the Atlantic Ocean, too.
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Dec 13th, 2006, 07:06 AM
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There was a long thread about this about Continental on Flyertalk some months ago, and CO's policy is that there's no real policy. Rather, it's up to the discretion of the lead FA.
I don't know what AA's policy is. Maybe they have a specific one, maybe not. You may want to ask that on the AA board at Flyertalk.com.
But based on the discussion on CO, here are the issues:
- Since it's up to the discretion of the lead FA, you don't and can't know in advance what his/her reaction is.
- There's also no way to determine whether its better to ask in advance. Say if the lead FA says "no" when you ask early, then that's basically the end of it. But perhaps if you do it quietly and discretely during the flight, then even this same FA may let you slip.
- If you're allowed to do it, you just have to do it with the least disruption to other passengers. Do it quietly, discretely, and not during meal time. Say in the middle of the night over the Atlantic may be okay.
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Anyways, having said all that, I don't really see the point of doing this for kids 17 and 18. Except for them to brag about it in school. They can understand the reward for working hard, without having to actually lay on the seat. Trust me.
And no one else on the plane who sees you - the FAs, other passengers in business or coach - will think very highly of the maneuver either. If you want them to know what it is like to be in business, then buy them a couple of tickets there.
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BTW, I've flown with my parents when they're sitting up front while I'm in the back. I'd never want them to lose any time in the nice seats, anyways.
I don't know what AA's policy is. Maybe they have a specific one, maybe not. You may want to ask that on the AA board at Flyertalk.com.
But based on the discussion on CO, here are the issues:
- Since it's up to the discretion of the lead FA, you don't and can't know in advance what his/her reaction is.
- There's also no way to determine whether its better to ask in advance. Say if the lead FA says "no" when you ask early, then that's basically the end of it. But perhaps if you do it quietly and discretely during the flight, then even this same FA may let you slip.
- If you're allowed to do it, you just have to do it with the least disruption to other passengers. Do it quietly, discretely, and not during meal time. Say in the middle of the night over the Atlantic may be okay.
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Anyways, having said all that, I don't really see the point of doing this for kids 17 and 18. Except for them to brag about it in school. They can understand the reward for working hard, without having to actually lay on the seat. Trust me.
And no one else on the plane who sees you - the FAs, other passengers in business or coach - will think very highly of the maneuver either. If you want them to know what it is like to be in business, then buy them a couple of tickets there.
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BTW, I've flown with my parents when they're sitting up front while I'm in the back. I'd never want them to lose any time in the nice seats, anyways.
Dec 13th, 2006, 07:12 AM
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lol loved the ages!
Have a good trip. I doubt they'll be able to come and have a swap but never mind.
If I were (lucky enough to be) able to afford only 2 bc tickets I'd abandon the teenagers to economy too!
Have a good trip. I doubt they'll be able to come and have a swap but never mind.
If I were (lucky enough to be) able to afford only 2 bc tickets I'd abandon the teenagers to economy too!
Dec 13th, 2006, 08:37 AM
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LOL- 1 1/2 and 4.
When my son was 5 I asked him if he wanted to fly by himself from Orange County, CA to Detroit to visit Grandma and Grandpa for a vacation. He told me he would think about it.
THe next morning he said " okay Mom, I want to go, but when do I learn how to fly the plane?"
When my son was 5 I asked him if he wanted to fly by himself from Orange County, CA to Detroit to visit Grandma and Grandpa for a vacation. He told me he would think about it.
THe next morning he said " okay Mom, I want to go, but when do I learn how to fly the plane?"
